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JamesCH95 15-01-2015 09:31

Re: pic: Bit Buckets 2015 Prototype Drive Pod
 
Neat drive module. I like the single reduction, very simple. What sort of fasteners are you using to tie everything together?

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Originally Posted by orangemoore (Post 1428516)
Well, that is assuming no one else has access to a laser cutter.
Cough Cough

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Originally Posted by z_beeblebrox (Post 1428515)
Our off-season chassis took about 4 hours of laser time, including setup. This module took 9 minutes.

It's a pretty neat tool to have; we can make 2D parts faster than literally any other team.

Edit: At least as fast as any other team.

Does a 4'x8' CNC plasma cutter count? Each of these parts took 4-5 minutes of cut time (1/4in 6061 T6), and that long cut time is due to the dozens of pierces for the lightening pattern.

http://i.imgur.com/QCryxlE.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HHVwJ_C31M

The side-panels took less than 2 min each to cut from 0.032 5052 Al.

http://i.imgur.com/gU6AhRa.jpg

Or a 4'x4' CNC router? All of these parts together took about 17min of cut time, most of which was in the pocketing.

http://i.imgur.com/FgtZxiL.jpg

Bruceb 15-01-2015 10:42

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Exactly what wood are you burning with your laser. I say exactly because I have access to a 160 watt laser and have tried cutting 1/4 Baltic birch and if it will cut depends on where I get it.
Some cuts real nice and some will only seem to cut to the glue line then just starts burning. So, if you have any details on what you are using it would be appreciated.
Thanks

AdamHeard 15-01-2015 10:47

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Originally Posted by z_beeblebrox (Post 1428600)
We're using Killough drive, so robot speed is 1/sqrt(2) wheel speed. We also like the simplicity of a single reduction gearbox.


I'm not certain; I think 60 or 75 W.

I think a killough actually has a root2 speed up.

s_forbes 15-01-2015 12:14

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Originally Posted by AdamHeard (Post 1428653)
I think a killough actually has a root2 speed up.

I hadn't put much thought into it, but I believe you are correct. Those modules will probably need another reduction stage.


Amar Shah 15-01-2015 13:20

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Originally Posted by Bruceb (Post 1428647)
Exactly what wood are you burning with your laser. I say exactly because I have access to a 160 watt laser and have tried cutting 1/4 Baltic birch and if it will cut depends on where I get it.
Some cuts real nice and some will only seem to cut to the glue line then just starts burning. So, if you have any details on what you are using it would be appreciated.
Thanks

Some plywoods have glues or fillers that don't cut well, which would explain it. 160W is otherwise overkill for 1/4" plywood.

Bruceb 15-01-2015 13:40

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Yes it will cut an inch of pine but not some plywoods.

z_beeblebrox 15-01-2015 14:06

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Originally Posted by s_forbes (Post 1428706)
I hadn't put much thought into it, but I believe you are correct. Those modules will probably need another reduction stage.

Likely true. I'll look into it today.

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Originally Posted by Bruceb (Post 1428647)
Exactly what wood are you burning with your laser.

.25" 5-ply Baltic Birch plyood from Woodworkers Source.

z_beeblebrox 15-01-2015 23:27

Re: pic: Bit Buckets 2015 Prototype Drive Pod
 
Version 2, ready to be cut tomorrow. Two stages of reduction, for an adjusted robot speed of ~10 fps. Adding a reduction stage only made it ~.25" longer and wider.



Our mostly complete chassis. This will also (hopefully) be cut out tomorrow.

BHS_STopping 15-01-2015 23:44

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Originally Posted by s_forbes (Post 1428706)
I hadn't put much thought into it, but I believe you are correct. Those modules will probably need another reduction stage.


I'm just taking the conservation of energy route.

Assume constant power output P. P = force * velocity (dot product used here). Since the force of the wheel along the direction of motion is effectively reduced by a factor of 1/sqrt(2), the velocity must increase by a factor of sqrt(2) to maintain that power output.

Dunngeon 16-01-2015 01:36

Re: pic: Bit Buckets 2015 Prototype Drive Pod
 
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Originally Posted by z_beeblebrox (Post 1429057)
Version 2, ready to be cut tomorrow. Two stages of reduction, for an adjusted robot speed of ~10 fps. Adding a reduction stage only made it ~.25" longer and wider.



Our mostly complete chassis. This will also (hopefully) be cut out tomorrow.

What settings does your team use for the cut? I just realized we have a 60W 30x15 laser cutter sitting in the other room at school. :rolleyes:

z_beeblebrox 16-01-2015 08:44

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Originally Posted by Dunngeon (Post 1429086)
What settings does your team use for the cut? I just realized we have a 60W 30x15 laser cutter sitting in the other room at school. :rolleyes:

I'm not sure; the settings for our laser aren't "real" units like Watts or Inches/ second. I'd suggest you just try different settings until you find something that works. But do try it; the laser is an amazing resource to have available.

orangemoore 16-01-2015 08:55

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Most laser cutters are different. If you want know the setting you can figure them out. But a good starting point is the internet and research into the laser cutter you have.

Dunngeon 16-01-2015 11:38

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Originally Posted by z_beeblebrox (Post 1429116)
I'm not sure; the settings for our laser aren't "real" units like Watts or Inches/ second. I'd suggest you just try different settings until you find something that works. But do try it; the laser is an amazing resource to have available.

Definitely, I wasn't trying to just copy paste settings. That rarely works in my experience. I was curious about the speeds you're able to go. Although if the laser doesn't use real units that's disapointing .


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