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Ether 20-01-2015 12:32

Re: Drive Team
 

I highly recommend watching the following videos at the time markers indicated:

http://youtu.be/ALASWt2uDqw?t=47m10s Driver Qualities
http://youtu.be/ALASWt2uDqw?t=54m31s Drive Coach Qualities
http://youtu.be/ALASWt2uDqw?t=58m24s Selecting a drive team



rhinobot 20-01-2015 16:18

Re: Drive Team
 
As a rookie team we are being very diverse in our drive team!
Driver: Mechanical Student
Operator: Lead student programmer
HP: Business/outreach student
Coach: Me, mechanical/strategy mentor

Our alternates have not been officially determined yet. :)

It's best to have a diverse drive team incase something happens to the robot and it needs a quick fix before the match!

**Also something that is often overlooked is. Make sure that there are 2 strong people on the drive team that are capable of lifting the robot onto the field!**

JamesCH95 20-01-2015 20:05

Re: Drive Team
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ether (Post 1430967)

I highly recommend watching the following videos at the time markers indicated:

http://youtu.be/ALASWt2uDqw?t=47m10s Driver Qualities
http://youtu.be/ALASWt2uDqw?t=54m31s Drive Coach Qualities
http://youtu.be/ALASWt2uDqw?t=58m24s Selecting a drive team



Seconded. I agree with everything Karthik says about drivers, coaches, and selecting a drive team. It all rings true with my years of FRC experience both as a student and as a coach.

I would like to emphasize the 'chemistry' bit that Karthik touched upon briefly. Drive team chemistry is VERY important, without it the drive team is not cohesive and thus much less effective. When I was a student I was appointed 'gunner' while my ex-girlfriend was appointed 'driver.' It didn't go well, we were not an effective team.

xXhunter47Xx 20-01-2015 22:42

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Quote:

When I was a student I was appointed 'gunner' while my ex-girlfriend was appointed 'driver.' It didn't go well, we were not an effective team.
Maybe this is why it's bad to have relationships with coworkers? :P

JamesCH95 21-01-2015 08:27

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Originally Posted by xXhunter47Xx (Post 1431332)
Maybe this is why it's bad to have relationships with coworkers? :P

Hehe, one must at least be cautious.

K-Dawg157 21-01-2015 09:57

Re: Drive Team
 
One the team I am a member of, 157, we actually have drive-team tryouts.

Once the robot is completed we have students who want to be a driver, operator or human player practice. We set up distractions and other robots and have them practice. The best driver is usually selected first, and then whoever is the best operator, that they work best with is the other half.

You should make sure they work together well, and that they will listen to the drive coach.

Last year, we had:
Driver: Build Student
Operator: CAD Student
Human Player: Build Student

The students tried out, the drive coach chose his best operator, and she told him who she worked best with, and they worked together to practice.

who716 21-01-2015 14:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Neima (Post 1429771)
What I stress on my team all the time is that the drive team should be made up of the people who can do the jobs the best. If a freshman who shows up to a decent amount of build days drives better then a senior who has been there everyday, the freshman should drive. That is the same for all of the other possessions except maybe coach.

Last year Our team had
Coach- Lead Captain/ Head of Programing
Main Driver- (me) Head of Build and Design
2nd Driver for the shooter- Head of Electronics and pneumatics
Human player - a few different students from different parts of the team

I agree with this, as long as the freshman show up to the required amount of meeting, he would get the job. I was a victim of a similar situation my junior year. I was driver sophomore year(first year on the team) and then I got to cocky as a junior and I ended up not being as commited as I should have been, and ended up being a scouting lead and not even being on drive team. Even though I may have been more qualified for the job. Really sucked to watch the team not make it to eliminations even though we had a great robot. I learned my lesson and last year I went to every meeting and ensured I was committed beyond just being driver and I retained the driving job and we had an amazing season aswell. plus got the deans list selction for the team, wich the mentors said was based solely on this years commitments.

Last year
Driver me- (mechanical)
Operater- (mechanical)
Coach- (mechanical/ design)
human player- (mechanical)

all 3 years I have been on the team a mechanical student has been driver, operater, and human player and for the most part coach except for when a mentor was one year.

Tammyo 27-01-2015 07:18

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Our former drive teams have been a part of all the different aspects of robotics. The last couple of years they have been a part of mechanical and programming. Each member on our team that wants to be a part of the drive team has to pass the drive test and be a significant part of the build of the robot- that way they know the robot functions and its limitations. The theory of build team unable to be drivers would not occur as long as they understand how to control the robot properly. Overall, our drive team needs to be able to work together and communicate well.

Landonh12 27-01-2015 08:35

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Our drive team consists of:

Driver: Programming and Electrical lead (me)
Operator: Mechanical lead
Human Player: Most athletic person that knows the game well and gets along with the drivers
Coach: Future driver

We usually stick someone at coach who knows the game well and needs the on-field experience for future years. This is my first year leading drive team, as I was the Operator in 2013 and 2014. Made it to the finals and lost by a tie in F-3 at my first competition as a driver (2014 offseason event).

We value our drivers. Over the past few years we've had some great ones, including one that got us to the #4 seed on Curie in 2011. I'm excited to drive at my first regional competition at Bayou in March.

Monochron 27-01-2015 09:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Landonh12 (Post 1434547)
Our drive team consists of:

Driver: Programming and Electrical lead (me)
Operator: Mechanical lead
Human Player: Most athletic person that knows the game well and gets along with the drivers
Coach: Future driver

We usually stick someone at coach who knows the game well and needs the on-field experience for future years. This is my first year leading drive team, as I was the Operator in 2013 and 2014. Made it to the finals and lost by a tie in F-3 at my first competition as a driver (2014 offseason event).

A lot of teams designate their coach as the drive team "leader" so that drivers can focus on the second to second challenges of driving while the coach keeps an eye on the big picture. I'm curious as to reasons other teams would have the driver as the leader.

Landonh12 28-01-2015 20:35

Re: Drive Team
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Monochron (Post 1434573)
A lot of teams designate their coach as the drive team "leader" so that drivers can focus on the second to second challenges of driving while the coach keeps an eye on the big picture. I'm curious as to reasons other teams would have the driver as the leader.

Our coach does help with the big picture and tells us things we need to hear. We like to have our best drivers at the controls while our coaches usually move up to a driving position once the upperclassmen drivers graduate.

Matt17 29-01-2015 20:31

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Last year our drive team was:

Driver: Lead Programmer
2nd Driver: Electrical Member
Captain: Lead Electrical
Human Player: Mechanical Member

hzheng_449 29-01-2015 21:21

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We're using the same drive crew that we selected last year. The philosophy that we had during the selection process was "hire for attitude, train for skill".

You can train most people to operate a robot relatively easily. It's a lot harder to train a drive crew to think tactically, communicate effectively, and work as a team all while under pressure.

Our drive team was made up of (last year's position/this year's position)

Driver: Drive member (as in the team that designs and build the robot chassis)/ Drive member
2nd Driver: Electronics member / Electronics team lead
Human Player: Mechanics member / Director of communications
Coach: Electronics team lead / Director of Operations

Most people with the qualities of a good driver should do very well on a robotics team, so it isn't surprising that most of our drive crew in leadership positions on the team.

As a side note, all of the members of the drive crew are good friends outside of robotics, which means that they have really good chemistry and have very effective teamwork.

brrian27 29-01-2015 21:45

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Last year we had:

Coach- Team Co-President
Driver- Head of Programming
Operator- Head of PR
Human Player- Head of Mechanical

It was great having the head of programming as the driver (for 3 years) because he knew the controls and operation of the robot well.
PR really helped in strategizing and planning with other teams (extroverted, outgoing kid).
A skilled mechanic was extremely important to fix any pre-match issues. He even had to replace a wheel quickly before the Virginia Regional finals last year.
And as the coach, I'd like to say I knew the rules and strategies and could keep us calm under pressure.

Monochron 29-01-2015 22:08

Re: Drive Team
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Landonh12 (Post 1435426)
Our coach does help with the big picture and tells us things we need to hear. We like to have our best drivers at the controls while our coaches usually move up to a driving position once the upperclassmen drivers graduate.

Yeah I meant more that the Coach has the final say in all on-the-field behavior. Like if a coach decides that going for a certain game piece is not worth it, then the drivers are expected to follow his commands. This isn't how my old team does it, but it is how my current team is looking to implement things.


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