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Joshua Sicz 09-02-2015 22:50

What motors are you using for your lift?
 
Does anyone have any suggestions for what type of motor we could use for our lift? We found that bag motors are a little slow. We were trying to go with rs775's but having some trouble with the adapter. We only have 1 cim more allowed because we already used 5 on our drive.

And with that how did you guys hook up the motor? Planetary gear box? Simple box?

Just looking for some ideas.

I know of some team that is using a worm gear box so there is no drift.

Anyways thanks,
Joshua Sicz

Mr V 09-02-2015 23:10

Re: What motors are you using for your lift?
 
A 775 in the 18v version does have enough power to lift 3 totes and a container. A Mini Cim also works. Personally I love the Versa Planetary for this sort of an application. The 775 motors interface with it very easily. You can interface the CIM or Mini CIM with it but you need to cut the shaft to assembly it per Vex recommendation. You also have a huge number of possible gear ratios with the Versa Planetary.

jagoldman 09-02-2015 23:14

Re: What motors are you using for your lift?
 
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My team is doing an elevator system that is run with chain. Our system is run by two Andymark 9015 motors and a 1:35 planetary from vex. These are the stats for the system are here.
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With what we have so far it seems to work fine, but if the 9015 motors are not strong enough we are going to switch to the bane bots RS-775-18 motors. Here are the stats for the RS-775-18 motors.
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My best advice would be to use the dual input attachment for the vex pro planetary gearbox. They are very easy to work with.

Best of luck!


PS. If you do use the 9015 motors, you have to cut the output shafts down a little for it to work with the dual input.

nickbrickmaster 09-02-2015 23:15

Re: What motors are you using for your lift?
 
We're using 2 drive gearboxes with power take off, 2 CIMs per box. It's not quite enough to lift 3 totes, but we plan to gear it down more.

MrForbes 09-02-2015 23:30

Re: What motors are you using for your lift?
 
Our tote lifter is powered by a CIM, through a toughbox, and chain sprocket reduction, which powers a cam, that lifts the arm. Kind of complicated sounding, but it works.

Our container lifter also uses a CIM and toughbox, and even more chain sprocket speed reduction, and it's also counterbalanced with a gas spring, and Latex tubing.

Springs of some sort can really help reduce the load on the motor, if you can figure out a way to use them. Our container lifter is balanced so that it needs to be driven down with a little bit of force when not holding a container, and driven up with about the same amount of force when it is holding a container. This cuts the load on the motor by quite a bit.

azcalg 09-02-2015 23:45

Re: What motors are you using for your lift?
 
We're using a van door motor with a 3.5 in winch. It lifted all 6 totes and a recycling bin 6 feet in like 4 or 5 seconds with no problem. I think we might up the size of the winch to 5 in so it'll go a bit faster. Van door motor is probably the simplest solution for this game because it has tons of torque and it's fairly easy to implement (don't need a gearbox or anything).

Walter Deitzler 09-02-2015 23:52

Re: What motors are you using for your lift?
 
We are using a Mini-CIM hooked up to a 30:1 versaplanitary gearbox. It lifts our whole 70inchs in about 4 seconds and can handle up to (theoretically) 300 lbs. (We ran some tests to see how much it could lift, but we broke the scale before the motor failed.) We also have no drift simply due to the ration we are using, it being to hard to turn without a substantial amount of force trying to back drive it.

Good luck!

Lil' Lavery 09-02-2015 23:59

Re: What motors are you using for your lift?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MrForbes (Post 1441048)
Our tote lifter is powered by a CIM, through a toughbox, and chain sprocket reduction, which powers a cam, that lifts the arm. Kind of complicated sounding, but it works.

Is this designed to create a reciprocating motion from the tote lifter while still only having to drive the motor forward? Sounds interesting/promising.

MrForbes 10-02-2015 00:02

Re: What motors are you using for your lift?
 
Well...that would be nice, but it needs to reverse. We didn't come up with the cam design until a few days ago, and there's other stuff in the way of making it so it can go all the way around. The linkage system we're using on the container lifter will probably go all the way around in one direction.

Mike Marandola 10-02-2015 00:03

Re: What motors are you using for your lift?
 
We are using one RS775-18 through a drill motor planetary on the low speed.

cjl2625 10-02-2015 00:14

Re: What motors are you using for your lift?
 
One cim on a toughbox. Lifts 6 totes at reasonable speed without a problem.

Oblarg 10-02-2015 00:18

Re: What motors are you using for your lift?
 
Two AndyMark WormBoxes, each driven by a CIM. We didn't want to have to deal with a brake mechanism on our lift, so a worm drive was the obvious choice.

Overkill, but a little overkill never hurt anyone.

Christopher149 10-02-2015 00:20

Re: What motors are you using for your lift?
 
Two CIMs, each on a Toughbox Nano. In testing today, looks to hold three totes and a container in place like a champ. Our grabber however... needs work.

Probably overkill, but it also gives us a nice counterweight to our lift.

Whippet 10-02-2015 00:24

Re: What motors are you using for your lift?
 
One CIM on a CIMple Box. It should work for what we need it to.

("Why?" You ask. "Because," I reply, "it's what we had on hand and purchase orders are a pain!")

Joshua Sicz 10-02-2015 00:25

Re: What motors are you using for your lift?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Walter Deitzler (Post 1441060)
We are using a Mini-CIM hooked up to a 30:1 versaplanitary gearbox. It lifts our whole 70inchs in about 4 seconds and can handle up to (theoretically) 300 lbs. (We ran some tests to see how much it could lift, but we broke the scale before the motor failed.) We also have no drift simply due to the ration we are using, it being to hard to turn without a substantial amount of force trying to back drive it.

Good luck!

Is this with all 6 + bin?


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