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PayneTrain 12-02-2015 11:20

Re: Snow compensation?
 
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Originally Posted by BrendanB (Post 1442421)
Its tough during the start of a team because you need to establish the "corporate culture" that establishes the reputation of what is expected of students with regard to conduct during team meetings.

Feel free to shoot me a private message if you want to discuss it further.

Trying to establish that when you start a team is much easier than trying to change it much later on though, so I would create the groundwork for the team you want to see in 5 years.

Inertia is one cruel mother.

Also, to get back on topic, I proposed that West Coast teams bag their robots yesterday out of respect for the Northeast.

BrendanB 12-02-2015 11:22

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Originally Posted by Jarridj4009 (Post 1442454)
I find this post kind of funny. I live in norther Minnesnowta and in the past we have consistently lost at least a week and sometime up to two weeks because of snow. This year we haven't had a single day lost but other places across the country have. I think its funny how the tables have turned a bit.

Haha I know right! Compared to some parts of the country/North America we haven't gotten as much snow but some parts of New England have gotten a lot and the city where our District Championship is being held (Worcester) has gotten roughly 90" of snow making it the snowiest city in the US this year from a report I saw.

One of the big differences is while we get a lot of snow every year most towns/cities aren't used to removing this much snow especially with multiple storms in just over a week meaning schools are staying closed for longer periods of time instead of just the day it snows. The roads and parking lots up here just keep getting smaller and smaller...

Sperkowsky 12-02-2015 11:25

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we have lost about 6 days and it really has hurt us quite a bit. We still will finish but we will only have 1 maybe 2 days to finish wiring code and test.

rick.oliver 12-02-2015 11:34

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Did I miss it or did no one mention that you should use the withholding allowance strategically. Prioritize and focus on the 90+ lbs you need to bag. If you have designed modular concepts into your machine, this will be most effective.

Kyorox 12-02-2015 11:39

Re: Snow compensation?
 
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Originally Posted by BrendanB (Post 1442459)

One of the big differences is while we get a lot of snow every year most towns/cities aren't used to removing this much snow especially with multiple storms in just over a week meaning schools are staying closed for longer periods of time instead of just the day it snows. The roads and parking lots up here just keep getting smaller and smaller...

Schools staying closed is a huge fear. For example Pentucket Regional is closed until the 23rd.

Christopher149 12-02-2015 13:51

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Originally Posted by Kyorox (Post 1442478)
Schools staying closed is a huge fear. For example Pentucket Regional is closed until the 23rd.

Looking at their website, I think you mean the 13th.

Kyorox 12-02-2015 14:09

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Originally Posted by Christopher149 (Post 1442579)
Looking at their website, I think you mean the 13th.

I wish I meant the 13th. There was coverage on the news about it and a few headlines int the news paper. Their superintendent did not want to take any risks and they do not have school until the 23rd. Many students there were disappointed , as they are now in school until July first. Many students, although they are not in the same school as me, are in contact with me through things such as facebook and twitter. Personally, I was shocked.
This is also including vacation which is next week (the 16th)

Jacob Bendicksen 12-02-2015 14:30

Re: Snow compensation?
 
Has anyone heard anything about FIRST increasing the withholding allowance? The allowance was increased last year due to a similar 'snow-pocalypse' for a lot of teams, so I'm curious if it'll increase again this year.

Sperkowsky 18-02-2015 15:46

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Originally Posted by Jacob Bendicksen (Post 1442626)
Has anyone heard anything about FIRST increasing the withholding allowance? The allowance was increased last year due to a similar 'snow-pocalypse' for a lot of teams, so I'm curious if it'll increase again this year.

I really hope so

Jon Stratis 18-02-2015 16:47

Re: Snow compensation?
 
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Originally Posted by Sperkowsky (Post 1446527)
I really hope so

Seeing as robots were bagged last night, I really doubt a change is coming...

PayneTrain 18-02-2015 16:54

Re: Snow compensation?
 
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Originally Posted by Jon Stratis (Post 1446566)
Seeing as robots were bagged last night, I really doubt a change is coming...

If anything was coming it would have probably been in the Tuesday update. If nothing related to withholding allowance shows up on the Friday scheduled update, there is no hope.

I know New York/New England area got #rekt but FIRST only raised the withholding allowance during seasons where over half of the teams missed over a week of time, which wasn't the case this year.

Brandon_L 18-02-2015 17:10

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My only suggestion would be to remember your withholding allowance! I'm a day late but its totally legal to pop off a part of your robot (say, elevator, manipulator, whatever) and keep it out of your bag and continue to work on it, as long as when you bring it to the event it is at or under the withholding allowance. We had a season a few years ago where we only bagged a drivetrain. You can even lawyer it a bit and remove COTs parts from your assembly and then reassemble it at the event (motors or other heavy COTs parts) to cut weight.

In the past we've made rigs/woodbots/mockups and mounted whatever we're still working on to that so we can continue. Helps if you have a practice bot but totally not needed.

dradel 18-02-2015 17:13

Also don't forget about the 6 hours of unbag time if your competing in a district event rather than a regional.

Jon Stratis 18-02-2015 19:01

Re: Snow compensation?
 
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Originally Posted by PayneTrain (Post 1446576)
If anything was coming it would have probably been in the Tuesday update. If nothing related to withholding allowance shows up on the Friday scheduled update, there is no hope.

I know New York/New England area got #rekt but FIRST only raised the withholding allowance during seasons where over half of the teams missed over a week of time, which wasn't the case this year.

What good would it do teams now? It's not like you can magically transport and extra 15 lbs or whatever outside the bag at this point... increasing the withholding allowance after bag day doesn't really help the vast majority of the teams...

PayneTrain 18-02-2015 19:38

Re: Snow compensation?
 
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Originally Posted by Jon Stratis (Post 1446661)
What good would it do teams now? It's not like you can magically transport and extra 15 lbs or whatever outside the bag at this point... increasing the withholding allowance after bag day doesn't really help the vast majority of the teams...

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