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Jon Stratis

13-02-2015 11:00

Re: Fans from the PCM?

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Originally Posted by MrForbes (Post 1443233)

I don't think so...R18 specifically states it has to be from the 2015 KOP.

oh wow, I completely missed that.

but... phew! The fans my team used are still available through FIRST Choice!

MrForbes

13-02-2015 11:07

Re: Fans from the PCM?

Yes, but they seem to restrict us to using that big pile of fans we have from past kits of parts. At least that's what it looks like...I haven't looked at all the part numbers yet on the old fans we have.

oh, now I have.

There are the ebmpabst and PABST 412 (small fan that fits the Victor), and ebmpabst 4212 and 4212 12H, and PABST 4212 N/12H (large fans) in the little pile I just looked at.

Same basic part number, different designs over the years, different wire ends on the large fans, some have a connector, some are bare wires.

Jon Stratis

13-02-2015 11:17

Re: Fans from the PCM?

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Originally Posted by MrForbes (Post 1443248)

Same basic part number, different designs over the years, different wire ends on the large fans, some have a connector, some are bare wires.

They all have bare wires once you cut the connector off to do your own attachment :)

Hoover

13-02-2015 11:26

Re: Fans from the PCM?

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Originally Posted by MrForbes (Post 1443233)

I don't think so...R18 specifically states it has to be from the 2015 KOP.

Now you are getting me nervous here since there is no 120mm fan in the 2015 KOP.

It is not identical to the 2012 fan picture but since it is a 2012 KOP picture that is irrelevant.

However I was also saying it is a COTS fan.

Should we zip tie a dinky fan to the compressor head and control it with a Talon? Yougottabekiddingme

I suppose it should be asked if a 120mm fan to cool the compressor is legal in Q&A. I signed up for Q&A but haven't been cleared to ask yet.

s_forbes

13-02-2015 11:29

Re: Fans from the PCM?

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Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 1443265)

Should we zip tie a dinky fan to the compressor head and control it with a Talon? Yougottabekiddingme

No, you should zip tie 5 dinky fans to the compressor head and add 5 more talons to your board. You'll get better air flow.

:)

Ether

13-02-2015 11:34

Re: Fans from the PCM?

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Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 1443265)

I suppose it should be asked if a 120mm fan to cool the compressor is legal in Q&A. I signed up for Q&A but haven't been cleared to ask yet.

Q&A 315 might be relevant here.

MrForbes

13-02-2015 11:35

Re: Fans from the PCM?

As I mentioned in another post, there is a large fan listed in the 2015 First Choice, so if it's that fan, it should be legal.The fan is listed as

Large 12V fan, Product Number 4412 ML

which seems to be a different number than the older KOP fans I looked at.

Hoover

13-02-2015 11:36

Re: Fans from the PCM?

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Originally Posted by s_forbes (Post 1443267)

No, you should zip tie 5 dinky fans to the compressor head and add 5 more talons to your board. You'll get better air flow.

:)

LM**O

Comon' folks tell me you are messing with my head! What kind of unfair advantage is there that be so serious it could be a fan? "Sir! You may not compete with that fan. You are disqualified."

Ether

13-02-2015 11:36

Re: Fans from the PCM?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 1443265)

However I was also saying it is a COTS fan.

Anything containing a motor is not governed by the COTS rules (unless you remove the motor and replace it with a legal motor)

MrForbes

13-02-2015 11:39

Re: Fans from the PCM?

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Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 1443273)

LM**O

Comon' folks tell me you are messing with my head! What kind of unfair advantage is there that be so serious it could be a fan? "Sir! You may not compete with that fan. You are disqualified."

We don't make the rules, we just try to figure out what they allow us to do.

MrForbes

13-02-2015 11:45

Re: Fans from the PCM?

Quote:

Originally Posted by s_forbes (Post 1443267)

No, you should zip tie 5 dinky fans to the compressor head and add 5 more talons to your board. You'll get better air flow.

:)

You might be surprised how effective one of the dinky 412 fans is, when placed about an inch from the head of the compressor.

Hoover

13-02-2015 11:48

Re: Fans from the PCM?

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Originally Posted by MrForbes (Post 1443272)

OK, but it isn't in the KOP. Just throwing a little doubt in there, not that there isn't enough of it already.

MrForbes

13-02-2015 11:52

Re: Fans from the PCM?

You could order one of the fans from First Choice, there are plenty left...if you have credits...you'd have to pay postage, though.

Hoover

13-02-2015 12:05

Re: Fans from the PCM?

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrForbes (Post 1443289)

You could order one of the fans from First Choice, there are plenty left...if you have credits...you'd have to pay postage, though.

We will and we will be ready with parts and programming if we have to change something at the competition. An annoyance but honestly not a big one.

Sohaib

13-02-2015 12:57

Re: Fans from the PCM?

Anyone find out if it is legal to run fans off of the PCM, or VRM?

I'm just looking for a legal, non-motor controller way to power a fan.

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