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Qcom 18-02-2015 23:29

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I...wow. I am dumbfounded.

tim-tim 19-02-2015 06:32

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After watching the video over the past few days, I am still relatively speechless. About the only thing I can say is Thanks. Thanks for continuing to inspire me (and probably the rest of the FIRST world) with your creations.

Hope to get a chance to see this in person.

Skyehawk 19-02-2015 19:06

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Originally Posted by pandamonium (Post 1444278)
I am a little disappointed that they didn't also get all 4 bins off of the step in autonomous...

Best thing I read all day.

Monochron 20-02-2015 00:04

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Someone may have mentioned it already, but I'm betting that their human player is going to be the one controlling the stacker. I never understood why the human player was allowed to use the controller this year . . . I guess FIRST and 148 were way ahead of me.

Kyler Hagler 20-02-2015 16:12

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Oh my! Great robot for a great team. Cant wait to see it at Dallas!!!!

SargeUSMC 20-02-2015 17:45

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Good thing we didn't remove the big pair of SCISSORS we mounted to the front of our bot.....

EricH 20-02-2015 19:38

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Originally Posted by Monochron (Post 1447445)
Someone may have mentioned it already, but I'm betting that their human player is going to be the one controlling the stacker.

Unless their HP is staying in the driver's station (or near) and potentially letting someone else load the stacker and the litter, nope. There's a bit of a distance limitation, T6-1. That being said, if they're in the side station no problemo.

Though, given that it's 148, I'd be surprised if the stacker wasn't mostly automated anyway.

Tammyo 20-02-2015 20:29

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This looks awesome!!!

Jonicool97 21-02-2015 12:35

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Holy zipties! How the hell is anyone going to beat that?! :ahh: :yikes:

lcoreyl 21-02-2015 16:21

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Originally Posted by dtengineering (Post 1445428)
BUT... before anyone starts handing out Championship Banners just yet, my observation over the years is that three robots executing "conventional" strategy perfectly, tend to have the edge over unique or unconventional machines. If there were a machine to upset that observation, this might well be it, but there are many other machines that I'm looking forward to seeing yet!

Jason

I don't see how a 3 "conventional" robot alliance can beat 148 assuming we're talking elims here. Usually what you are talking about comes down to the fact top seeds have a weak 3rd bot, so 3 solid bots have an advantage. Well, in this case now it would just be 3v3 and 148's 3rd bot just has to do enough to break the tie.

I've only really followed other bots on CD since 2010. Are there any other examples of one robot doing the job of 2 elite robots simultaneously?

TylerS 21-02-2015 16:23

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Originally Posted by lcoreyl (Post 1448062)
I don't see how a 3 "conventional" robot alliance can beat 148 assuming we're talking elims here. Usually what you are talking about comes down to the fact top seeds have a weak 3rd bot, so 3 solid bots have an advantage. Well, in this case now it would just be 3v3 and 148's 3rd bot just has to do enough to break the tie.

I've only really followed other bots on CD since 2010. Are there any other examples of one robot doing the job of 2 elite robots simultaneously?

148 can't get the robot set points in autonomous

Gregor 21-02-2015 16:27

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Originally Posted by TylerS (Post 1448064)
148 can't get the robot set points in autonomous

They don't need them.

TDav540 21-02-2015 16:37

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Originally Posted by Gregor (Post 1448067)
They don't need them.

Maybe, maybe not. What if one of their alliance members accidentally knocks down a stack? Then maybe those four points come into play.

Anything can happen. It's why the matches are played. :D

EricLeifermann 21-02-2015 16:43

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148's advantage is the HP stacker.

There will be other singular robots that get 3 RC and a tote stack in auto. 148's advantage comes from being able to place stacks while their also creating another stack.

148 is beatable it will be the job of whom ever isn't on their elims alliance to build the right team to beat them.

Unless they change from the video 148 does not get the RC set and they CAN'T get the robot set so that's 12 points they won't be able to get. Is up to you to make sure your alliance can get those 12 and then at least go point for point them them the rest of the match. And that really only matters in the finals.

lcoreyl 21-02-2015 21:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by EricLeifermann (Post 1448070)
148's advantage is the HP stacker.

There will be other singular robots that get 3 RC and a tote stack in auto. 148's advantage comes from being able to place stacks while their also creating another stack.

this is what I implied by saying they are effectively 2 robots, which was just repeating what other people already said.
While their auto is incredible to watch, it is the prospect of how many max stacks they can make by themselves that is intriguing to me...

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Originally Posted by EricLeifermann (Post 1448070)
Unless they change from the video 148 does not get the RC set and they CAN'T get the robot set so that's 12 points they won't be able to get. Is up to you to make sure your alliance can get those 12 and then at least go point for point them them the rest of the match. And that really only matters in the finals.

would you bet on them not being able to get the RC set? For the sake of argument, let's say they decide to just scrap hook bridge and floppy, and their alliance decides against the RC set because reasons. Don't you think they will more than make up for those 12 points?

I’m a little shocked that, unless I missed a post here, no one has speculated to their scoring ability? In a year with no defence?

I’ll start: I’m going with all 30 alliance station totes making 5 x 6 tote stacks with >=3 of those with a noodled RC on top is their “no problem” baseline. 28 auto + 30x2 totes + 3 n6RCs = 178?


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