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RachelDoby 14-02-2015 23:48

Robowranglers 2015: Batman & Robin
 


https://vimeo.com/119664649

Because every superhero needs a sidekick.

orangemoore 14-02-2015 23:52

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This is so AWESOME!

Nebster 14-02-2015 23:53

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This is amazing. Wow

Hallry 14-02-2015 23:53

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Well then.

Gregor 14-02-2015 23:54

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I am speechless.

XaulZan11 14-02-2015 23:55

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I'm so glad someone thought outside the box. I'm even more glad they shared their design before ship!

Anupam Goli 14-02-2015 23:57

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I'm at a loss for words right now. The way you guys dissected the game and combined your ideas to form one "robot" is amazing. I'm going to look forward to seeing this robot on streams and seeing if any others can match it.

orangemoore 14-02-2015 23:57

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They get 28 points by themselves during Autonomous.

Mind = Blown

If they don't make it far in the competition at Championships this year something must have gone terribly wrong.

MrBasse 14-02-2015 23:57

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Almost everything that I thought of and then brushed off as being impossible is in this video... Wow, just wow.

EricLeifermann 14-02-2015 23:57

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:ahh: :ahh: :ahh: :ahh::ahh:

My only question is how your tethering to the 3 recycling cans works and stays within the rules.

Christopher149 14-02-2015 23:58

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At the very end, is that a THIRD part of your robot for auto? Does 148 need partners?

avanboekel 15-02-2015 00:00

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I really don't know what to say right now...

Edit: Can't wait to watch Batman & Robin in action!

Tyler2517 15-02-2015 00:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Christopher149 (Post 1444252)
At the very end, is that a THIRD part of your robot for auto? Does 148 need partners?

I don't know if they do.... and that is what scares me the most.
I spend 5 minutes trying to figure out how the bins rolled over on there own... that is frc's version of cheating...

MikLast 15-02-2015 00:01

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I was kind of expecting this... but this is just amazing, far better than anything i would of thought of.

nathanwalters 15-02-2015 00:03

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That is a thing of beauty.

Hallry 15-02-2015 00:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Christopher149 (Post 1444252)
At the very end, is that a THIRD part of your robot for auto?

Catwoman.

ErvinI 15-02-2015 00:03

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Wait wait wait... am I seeing the end correctly?

That's voodoo, man.

wt200999 15-02-2015 00:04

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How consistently can your human player score LITTER in a RECYCLING CONTAINER while on a 6 stack?

cjl2625 15-02-2015 00:07

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This is absolutely mind-blowing... I'm at a loss for words

EricLeifermann 15-02-2015 00:08

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Never mind i see the string going from all three of your pieces hanging your recycling can grabbers.

Bluman56 15-02-2015 00:09

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Well looks like there's no reason to finish building our robot anymore. It was fun while it lasted! :eek:

Electronica1 15-02-2015 00:09

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It looks great. Glad to see another team with sure-grip wheels on their intake. I can't wait to see that/those robot(s) compete.

Just wondering, what precautions did you take in the event an alliance partner accidentally runs over a connecting wire?

orangemoore 15-02-2015 00:09

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Do we still have enough time to do a complete redesign?...

MrJohnston 15-02-2015 00:09

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Impressive... We have our work cut out for us...

EricLeifermann 15-02-2015 00:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by orangemoore (Post 1444249)
They get 28 points by themselves during Autonomous.

Mind = Blown

If they don't make it far in the competition at Championships this year something must have gone terribly wrong.


Not a 28 point auto as they don't get all 3 recycling cans into auto zone.

Tyler2517 15-02-2015 00:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by EricLeifermann (Post 1444268)
Not a 28 point auto as they don't get all 3 recycling cans into auto zone.

I am 100% sure they have that fixed by the time this video was posted....

wireties 15-02-2015 00:12

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Impressive work! Congratulations!

RonnieS 15-02-2015 00:13

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What is that cord made out of? They planned for people to drive over it, also how thick?
-Ronnie

PayneTrain 15-02-2015 00:13

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gg texas

cxcad 15-02-2015 00:15

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I watched this video 10 times already.... But wow

Abhishek R 15-02-2015 00:15

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LOOK AT THE MOVES LOOK AT THE CLEANSE 148 WHAT WAS THAT?!?

gg

Christopher149 15-02-2015 00:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by EricLeifermann (Post 1444263)
Never mind i see the string going from all three of your pieces hanging your recycling can grabbers.

When I watched the first time, I was convinced it was black magic. Switching to HD and fullscreening - I started giggling hysterically at the suspension bridge they have going on.

pandamonium 15-02-2015 00:17

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I am a little disappointed that they didn't also get all 4 bins off of the step in autonomous...

Canon reeves 15-02-2015 00:18

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I think I'm in love....

Jonathan Norris 15-02-2015 00:18

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Game Breaking.

Anupam Goli 15-02-2015 00:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pandamonium (Post 1444278)
I am a little disappointed that they didn't also get all 4 bins off of the step in autonomous...

That's the only role their alliance partners will have. :P

Mrcope9 15-02-2015 00:18

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Someone get a broom and scrape by brains off the walls. Mind. Blown.

NWChen 15-02-2015 00:19

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I was quick to shoot down an idea about tethered/multi-robots earlier this season, and now I regret it. I admire the detail that went into both the strategy and engineering here -- too cool.

Chris_Elston 15-02-2015 00:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by EricLeifermann (Post 1444251)
:ahh: :ahh: :ahh: :ahh::ahh:

My only question is how your tethering to the 3 recycling cans works and stays within the rules.

I wasn't sure that any part of your robot can be in the AUTOZONE at the start of the match. Maybe I am wrong. The triple winch mechanism is in the autozone. = G7. C.

I didn't know that it tipped over until I went to HD mode...

Basel A 15-02-2015 00:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris_Elston (Post 1444286)
I wasn't sure that any part of your robot can be in the AUTOZONE at the start of the match. Maybe I am wrong. The triple winch mechanism is in the autozone. = G7. C.

Notice how it tips over?

Lil' Lavery 15-02-2015 00:22

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Texas teams that focused on the landfill/step should be shouting with excitement right now.

Caleb Sykes 15-02-2015 00:23

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Now I'm wondering how many of the other great teams do something similar. I'd be surprised if 148 were the only ones that did this.

cjl2625 15-02-2015 00:23

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Wondering what the transport configuration is.... I guess the 3 things have to stack into each other.

Chirag 15-02-2015 00:23

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I'm wicked glad someone went with this design! I really wanted to make a robot like this but everyone thought it was too crazy :(

How worried are you guys about accidentally looping around a stack and knocking it down?

Sohaib 15-02-2015 00:23

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This. Just. Happened.

tomy 15-02-2015 00:25

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So they won world Championship.

ThunderousPrime 15-02-2015 00:27

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I can't wait to see this robot in the transport configuration. Also putting it in a crate for champs seems to be just as annoying. Unbelievable robot!

plnyyanks 15-02-2015 00:32

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Watched the video countless times and still speechless. I can't even...

safiq10 15-02-2015 00:32

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My brain just melted.... You guys are an inspiration! Can't wait till Dallas!

StAxis 15-02-2015 00:32

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I'm so glad a powerhouse did it. You guys are everything I needed a team to be to make this game awesome.

Mrcope9 15-02-2015 00:32

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But what does it do with upside down totes????

chadr03 15-02-2015 00:33

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Impressive as always.

I thought with this years rules we would see some real out of the box designs. Wow. Just wow. I can't stop watching.

I'm looking forward to seeing what other designs are going to blow my mind this year.

RachelDoby 15-02-2015 00:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cjl2625 (Post 1444291)
Wondering what the transport configuration is.... I guess the 3 things have to stack into each other.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThunderousPrime (Post 1444296)
I can't wait to see this robot in the transport configuration. Also putting it in a crate for champs seems to be just as annoying.


tomy 15-02-2015 00:39

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What is the combined weight?

Chief Hedgehog 15-02-2015 00:39

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Once again you left the rest of FRC in awe... Nice Job 148!

Chuck Glick 15-02-2015 00:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tomy (Post 1444310)
What is the combined weight?

Under 120lbs.

asid61 15-02-2015 00:42

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Looks great (as usual). The transport configuration is amazing.
How are you planning to stop being from catching on the belt that runs on the floor?

AngryCalculator 15-02-2015 00:43

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holy totes! This is magnificent. Why did my team not think of a multi-bot???

Zebra_Fact_Man 15-02-2015 00:54

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I want to meet the person/people that designed that "robot" and buy them a milkshake.

AngryCalculator 15-02-2015 01:03

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this is magnificent. how does the container Lasso-er thing attatch to the containers exactly?

Andrew Lawrence 15-02-2015 01:16

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A very innovative design. Props to the 148 team.

BurkeHalderman 15-02-2015 01:18

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Fantastic robot(s)! Way to think outside the box. I can't wait to see this thing in action!

Rangel(kf7fdb) 15-02-2015 01:32

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Amazing robots. I don't think my jaw dropped this much since I watched your team's unveil in 2010. One of the most innovative robot's I've seen in FRC. Can't wait to see the robots up close at Vegas!

Lil' Lavery 15-02-2015 01:41

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Perhaps I'm simply not seeing it properly in the video, but I'm curious how those hooks are not supported by the recycling containers at the start of autonomous, and thus in violation of G7-B. See Q&A 238

JohnSchneider 15-02-2015 01:43

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Are there even enough totes?! :ahh:

Jonathan Norris 15-02-2015 01:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lil' Lavery (Post 1444345)
Perhaps I'm simply not seeing it properly in the video, but I'm curious how those hooks are not supported by the recycling containers at the start of autonomous, and thus in violation of G7-B. See Q&A 238

I think they are "supported" between the two "robots", if that makes any sense.

Deetman 15-02-2015 01:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lil' Lavery (Post 1444345)
Perhaps I'm simply not seeing it properly in the video, but I'm curious how those hooks are not supported by the recycling containers at the start of autonomous, and thus in violation of G7-B. See Q&A 238

It *looks* like they have the hooks suspended on a string from the "winch bot" to the "main bot". The hooks look to be just above the containers and fall onto the tops when the "winch bot" tips over.

Munchskull 15-02-2015 01:47

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Do you want your blue banners shipped to you now or for dean Kamen to personally deliver them at your first competition.

bEdhEd 15-02-2015 02:11

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I'm loving that you guys accomplished the tethering! Should have expected the Robowranglers to literally wrangle the containers.

How are you gonna plan strategies to ensure that you don't get tangled with alliance members and game pieces? I saw some videos of our local scrimmage, and it seems like the "half field" has hardly any room to keep the tethering from getting in the way with the other robots and game pieces scattered everywhere.

I'm really curious about any testing for tether durability or tangle avoidance. Do you make sure in your strategy that the other alliance bots stay out of the way, or is there some way that the tether cannot get entangled?

Congratulations on another successful build season!

BBray_T1296 15-02-2015 02:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bEdhEd (Post 1444357)
I'm loving that you guys accomplished the tethering!

How are you gonna plan strategies to ensure that you don't get tangled with alliance members and game pieces? I saw some videos of our local scrimmage, and it seems like the "half field" has hardly any room to keep the tethering from getting in the way with the other robots and game pieces scattered everywhere.

I'm really curious about any testing for tether durability or tangle avoidance. Do you make sure in your strategy that the other alliance bots stay out of the way, or is there some way that the tether cannot get entangled?

Congratulations on another successful build season!

You tell them if they press their E-Stop button they will win anyways.

IronicDeadBird 15-02-2015 02:15

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Man if there is a robot that tackles this problem in a more efficient and creative way I don't think I can take it... I just can't too much awesome...

2090_Dad 15-02-2015 02:19

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Amazing.. Just.. OMG.. Wow.. Plain old amazing... Congratulations on another fantastic design and build!!

Chris Endres 15-02-2015 02:21

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gg life. Oh, and if you play the last video clip by clicking pause and play rapidly, it sounds like the packman theme song...just saying. But really, nice job 148.

Oblarg 15-02-2015 02:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BBray_T1296 (Post 1444358)
You tell them if they press their E-Stop button they will win anyways.

While having a robot/strategy that can win without alliance partners is great and extremely impressive, telling your alliance partners to hit their e-stop buttons so as not to interfere with your robot is not going to build goodwill and, in my estimation, is not really in the spirit of the competition.

I'd think a simple "please don't drive over our wires" would suffice, really.

IronicDeadBird 15-02-2015 02:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Oblarg (Post 1444363)
While having a robot/strategy that can win without alliance partners is great and extremely impressive, telling your alliance partners to hit their e-stop buttons so as not to interfere with your robot is not going to build goodwill and, in my estimation, is not really in the spirit of the competition.

I'd think a simple "please don't drive over our wires" would suffice, really.

I'm really happy our team won't be anywhere near them game wise we will just chill over here and do our thing in the landfill...

Zebra_Fact_Man 15-02-2015 02:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BBray_T1296 (Post 1444358)
You tell them if they press their E-Stop button they will win anyways.

Didn't ya hear? There is no winning this year. All rankings until the finals.

Rangel(kf7fdb) 15-02-2015 03:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by IronicDeadBird (Post 1444364)
I'm really happy our team won't be anywhere near them game wise we will just chill over here and do our thing in the landfill...

I'd be surprised if there wasn't at least one multi robot team doing the landfills. :) It's not us but I'm sure one team will do it.

RonnieS 15-02-2015 03:15

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What durometer are the sur grip wheels? And im guessing Nitrile?
-Ronnie

BBray_T1296 15-02-2015 03:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Oblarg (Post 1444363)
While having a robot/strategy that can win without alliance partners is great and extremely impressive, telling your alliance partners to hit their e-stop buttons so as not to interfere with your robot is not going to build goodwill and, in my estimation, is not really in the spirit of the competition.

I'd think a simple "please don't drive over our wires" would suffice, really.

Oh I concur entirely. It would be pretty lousy to be told to do nothing all match. It must be said that FRC is about the learning, not the winning. I find it difficult to come up with an example less G-P than telling someone to [that their robot is so bad that they would be better off] not field their robot.

JamesYao 15-02-2015 03:41

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:ahh: mind blown :ahh: :ahh:
Very Impressive

Mike Marandola 15-02-2015 03:56

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I cannot believe this.

themccannman 15-02-2015 05:11

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Holy **** that's cool.

Hope we're in the same division at champs this year, I'd love to get a repeat shot at the title with you guys again :yikes:

JohnFogarty 15-02-2015 07:02

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What.

Deke 15-02-2015 07:17

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This has to be one of the most inspirational robots of all time, and it's before competition even starts!

I absolutely love it! You guys blew all 'limitations' out of the water.

nlknauss 15-02-2015 07:37

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The east coast is waking up to a different world!

Someone was bound to take a risk to try this out and you guys hit it out of the park. We'll have to see how this plays out at competition but I think it's going to be awesome.

What's kind of range do you have on that tether?

Michael Hill 15-02-2015 07:48

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And my team laughed when I suggested a tethered set of robots....

With that said, fantastic job. I can't wait to see it in action.

Fielding S. 15-02-2015 08:39

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This is just dirty.

philso 15-02-2015 08:57

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There was a thread about how Recycle Rush is reminiscent of an FLL game. Batman & Robin looks like one of the machines that the top FLL teams would produce, spreading out to cover large parts of the playing field.

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=132172


The following is a video from Team Invicta, the World Champions from the 2013 season. At 1:23 they pick up a stack of 3 "building segments" and at 1:43, they score a stack of 5, all totally autonomously.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzDjg595AiU

I wonder if there are ex-FLL team members on 148.

artK 15-02-2015 09:25

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Holy Robot, Batman!

Maximillian 15-02-2015 09:29

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I wonder how the numbering rules apply considering they have 3 different robots.

s_forbes 15-02-2015 09:31

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I'm glad you guys were adventurous enough to take this approach and pull it off! Now when people call my ideas crazy or impossible I can point to this video and say "wanna bet?"

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck Glick (Post 1444313)
Under 120lbs.

How much of that is tether?

IKE 15-02-2015 09:50

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This was one of the "robots" I hoped someone with the skill to pull it off would build. That being said, there are still about 3 more "game changers" I am hoping to see.

serenagh 15-02-2015 10:19

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Amazing. So inspiring. Curious as to what the reaction of a spectator might be, after someone tells them its three robots on a side- "hey, why do they get to have five?":). (148's three tethers and the other two Alliance bots- even better if there happens to be another tether team with them) That'll be fun to explain.

Nato 15-02-2015 10:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by philso (Post 1444404)
There was a thread about how Recycle Rush is reminiscent of an FLL game. Batman & Robin looks like one of the machines that the top FLL teams would produce, spreading out to cover large parts of the playing field.

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=132172


The following is a video from Team Invicta, the World Champions from the 2013 season. At 1:23 they pick up a stack of 3 "building segments" and at 1:43, they score a stack of 5, all totally autonomously.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzDjg595AiU

I wonder if there are ex-FLL team members on 148.

I was also reminded of FLL upon seeing 148's work, but instead of the 2012 FLL World Champions, "Falcons Japan" from Tokyo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khWDBTW0rTk

They use two tethered components from 0:09 to 0:24.

I would also be interested to hear if 148 was inspired by FLL.

nlknauss 15-02-2015 10:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Maximillian (Post 1444410)
I wonder how the numbering rules apply considering they have 3 different robots.

The refs will just have play the game "follow the tether", kinda like following breadcrumbs!

GearsOfFury 15-02-2015 10:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBasse (Post 1444250)
Almost everything that I thought of and then brushed off as being impossible is in this video... Wow, just wow.

Just about like every year with these guys! So awesome, what great execution.

EricLeifermann 15-02-2015 10:56

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I can't wait to see them set it up in the little time allowed. Will be the true skill of the drive team.

Kpchem 15-02-2015 11:23

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So I watched this briefly last night, saw the main robot, and was still amazed at how quickly and smoothly they can stack the totes.

I came back to it this morning after watching the thread blow up and I can't stop watching it. I love this design. I'm not going to go as far as to say that we should just hand them the blue banners now, but they're going to do well.

Well done 148. Thank you for continuing to be an inspiration to FIRST teams and engineers worldwide.

Ichlieberoboter 15-02-2015 11:34

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WOW 😲

DohertyBilly 15-02-2015 11:47

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Are the 3 auto bins still attached to the winch after auto? If so, how easily can they be used?

Regardless, I'm crying a little right now, because I just realized that there's only a 1 in 8 chance of being on the same division as you guys. I'd be surprised if this machine didn't win at least 2 matches at champs.


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