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PayneTrain 16-02-2015 00:52
Re: Team 1678's 4 RC Autonomous
 
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Originally Posted by JohnFogarty (Post 1444855)
We've got the room. I've been trying to figure out how to top our sister (4451) team's Mutombo Finger sign that was on their 2013 robot. It'd going to be pretty difficult to take the two containers that we try to grab at once away from us.
ok ;)

Boltman 16-02-2015 00:57
Re: Team 1678's 4 RC Autonomous
 
Is it just me but do you even see a need for those four containers? Still have to stack them and 2:15 is not a lot of time. At most I saw 2 bins stacked today not 6 or 7....not a lot of time. Plus the bins will be on their sides most likely eliminating many robots from using them at that point.

Video is cool but how much it does it really change the game for the alliance with that capability..who knows guess we'll find out soon enough. Still way cool.

JohnFogarty 16-02-2015 00:59
Re: Team 1678's 4 RC Autonomous
 
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Originally Posted by PayneTrain (Post 1444857)
ok ;)
I don't if this says something about a new model Camaro Transmission. But the custom gearbox our mechanical head mentor built for the container grabber has more torque power than the car transmission.

;) Hope to test it out on a worthy opponent.

PayneTrain 16-02-2015 01:02
Re: Team 1678's 4 RC Autonomous
 
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Originally Posted by JohnFogarty (Post 1444863)

;) Hope to test it out on a worthy opponent.
best I can do is an opponent

AdamHeard 16-02-2015 01:15
Re: Team 1678's 4 RC Autonomous
 
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Originally Posted by Boltman (Post 1444862)
Is it just me but do you even see a need for those four containers? Still have to stack them and 2:15 is not a lot of time. At most I saw 2 bins stacked today not 6 or 7....not a lot of time. Plus the bins will be on their sides most likely eliminating many robots from using them at that point.

Video is cool but how much it does it really change the game for the alliance with that capability..who knows guess we'll find out soon enough. Still way cool.
If you can't use bins that are knocked over, it's time to reassess your design.

Anupam Goli 16-02-2015 01:16
Re: Team 1678's 4 RC Autonomous
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnFogarty (Post 1444863)
I don't if this says something about a new model Camaro Transmission. But the custom gearbox our mechanical head mentor built for the container grabber has more torque power than the car transmission.

;) Hope to test it out on a worthy opponent.
be careful not to break the Recycling Container.... or crush it into smithereens if you really have the power of a car transmission in that mechanism.

Boltman 16-02-2015 01:21
Re: Team 1678's 4 RC Autonomous
 
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Originally Posted by AdamHeard (Post 1444874)
If you can't use bins that are knocked over, it's time to reassess your design.
Agreed... But even with the capability of picking up a bin on its side that takes time to put on a stack (balanced) and with three other bins I guess I just don't see the need for many more bins than 3 is all on any given side. This observation is based on time given in the time in the match and on the game flow I've seen so far. Be ideal if every robot could pick up objects in every position but that is not reality some are very specific with grabbing items. In championships sure it will be a factor at some level.

asid61 16-02-2015 01:27
Re: Team 1678's 4 RC Autonomous
 
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Originally Posted by Boltman (Post 1444862)
Is it just me but do you even see a need for those four containers? Still have to stack them and 2:15 is not a lot of time. At most I saw 2 bins stacked today not 6 or 7....not a lot of time. Plus the bins will be on their sides most likely eliminating many robots from using them at that point.

Video is cool but how much it does it really change the game for the alliance with that capability..who knows guess we'll find out soon enough. Still way cool.
Think of elims. A robot that can grab four cans is invaluable for points denial, even if they all can't be used.
Quals is important, but being a pretty-much-guaranteed elims pick is better IMO. Assuming the robot can do more than just cans.

atucker4072 16-02-2015 01:27
Re: Team 1678's 4 RC Autonomous
 
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Originally Posted by Boltman (Post 1444880)
Agreed... But even with the capability of picking up a bin on its side that takes time to put on a stack (balanced) and with three other bins I guess I just don't see the need for many more bins than 3 is all on any given side. Given the time in the match. Based on the game flow I've seen so far. Be ideal if every robot could pick up objects in every position but that is not reality some are very specific with grabbing items. In championships sure it will be a factor at some level.
I'm sure 148 is planning on using more than 3 and I'm sure a lot more teams are as well.

Jacob Bendicksen 16-02-2015 02:31
Re: Team 1678's 4 RC Autonomous
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Boltman (Post 1444862)
Is it just me but do you even see a need for those four containers? Still have to stack them and 2:15 is not a lot of time. At most I saw 2 bins stacked today not 6 or 7....not a lot of time.
This will probably be true at most regionals and districts, but by the time St. Louis comes around, if not sooner, the containers on the step will be the key to the whole thing. I wouldn't be surprised to see the final match on Einstein decided within the first ten seconds.

Tom Line 16-02-2015 08:13
Re: Team 1678's 4 RC Autonomous
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Boltman (Post 1444862)
Is it just me but do you even see a need for those four containers? Still have to stack them and 2:15 is not a lot of time. At most I saw 2 bins stacked today not 6 or 7....not a lot of time. Plus the bins will be on their sides most likely eliminating many robots from using them at that point.

Video is cool but how much it does it really change the game for the alliance with that capability..who knows guess we'll find out soon enough. Still way cool.
Call me Carnack if you want, but I'll stay straight up those four bins WILL be key to winning Einstein. If you doubt it, just look at how fast 148 can create stacks of totes.

The_ShamWOW88 16-02-2015 08:29
Re: Team 1678's 4 RC Autonomous
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Boltman (Post 1444862)
Is it just me but do you even see a need for those four containers? Still have to stack them and 2:15 is not a lot of time. At most I saw 2 bins stacked today not 6 or 7....not a lot of time. Plus the bins will be on their sides most likely eliminating many robots from using them at that point.

Video is cool but how much it does it really change the game for the alliance with that capability..who knows guess we'll find out soon enough. Still way cool.
Exactly the reason why the students wanted to design our bot to handle the bins in any orientation and make it our #1 priority. If we get paired with a bot that can do something like this, we can focus on capping tote stacks while our partner makes those stacks....there's more teamwork to this game than people are giving it credit for...

Boltman 16-02-2015 08:44
Re: Team 1678's 4 RC Autonomous
 
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Originally Posted by The_ShamWOW88 (Post 1444957)
Exactly the reason why the students wanted to design our bot to handle the bins in any orientation and make it our #1 priority. If we get paired with a bot that can do something like this, we can focus on capping tote stacks while our partner makes those stacks....there's more teamwork to this game than people are giving it credit for...
Teamwork will be the key. I just want to see how fast a 6 tote stack can actually be built and and scored. 148 looks like it could do it well.

Anupam Goli 16-02-2015 09:16
Re: Team 1678's 4 RC Autonomous
 
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Originally Posted by Boltman (Post 1444958)
Teamwork will be the key. I just want to see how fast a 6 tote stack can actually be built and and scored. 148 looks like it could do it well.
I mean, if you have possession of all 4 step RC's, and you only manage to score one of the step RC's in addition to your alliance's 3 RC's, you've pretty much won. The bonus muiltiplier for an RC on a stack of 3 or 4 even is hard to counter when you don't have another recycling container to try it. Einstein will be decided in autonomous.

Citrus Dad 16-02-2015 15:52
Re: Team 1678's 4 RC Autonomous
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Boltman (Post 1444862)
Is it just me but do you even see a need for those four containers? Still have to stack them and 2:15 is not a lot of time. At most I saw 2 bins stacked today not 6 or 7....not a lot of time. Plus the bins will be on their sides most likely eliminating many robots from using them at that point.

Video is cool but how much it does it really change the game for the alliance with that capability..who knows guess we'll find out soon enough. Still way cool.
To be honest, we're not just thinking about Regionals. We want to make a third straight visit to a special place this year....


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