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Kevin Leonard 23-02-2015 13:46

Re: How many points will you score?
 
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Originally Posted by IronicDeadBird (Post 1448743)
Its correct but I don't think you can hold all 70 totes on the scoring platforms

12 stacks of 6.
6 stacks on each platform. I'm not saying it's easy, but it's very possible.

Siri 23-02-2015 17:01

Re: How many points will you score?
 
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Originally Posted by Kevin Leonard (Post 1448707)
How much is 150 points?
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If you can score more than any of the above every single match, you can put down 150+
You're also either one of the best in the world right now or delusional.

For the purpose of analysis, I'm disregarding unprocessed litter and coopertition points because they are less effective during playoffs when it matters.

Exactly true. There's a perennial tendency in FRC to overestimate score contributions.

On this point, I have a related question: what was the average [total alliance] score for last year's Week 1 #1 seeds? Or how about the average alliance score at Worlds?* Just by memory/guessing. (I did the math; you don't have to.) As a refresher: Truss, Catch, High Goal = 10 each. Low Goal = 1. Auto = +5 for Goals; +5 for Hot; 5 for Mobility. 2 Assists = +10, 3 Assists = +30. Fouls added to scores are were 20 and 50.

Do you remember what you thought you'd get in 2014? Do you remember what you did get? Do you remember what seed you were? (You can do this for yourself as well; I did it by hand off TBA.) Take a minute, check the answer, and see if it changes your guess about your points for this year. Does it?


Attachment: Answer to (ASSIST+AUTO+TRUSS&CATCH+TELEOP GOAL&FOUL)/matches for the twelve Week 1 #1 seeds and the average in each World division.

*Karthik talking about overestimating this (in 2012).

waialua359 23-02-2015 18:37

Re: How many points will you score?
 
With some powerhouse teams competing this weekend in Dallas, we will see just how accurate the predictions are.
And because of the way the game is this year, I dont see it changing much for those elite teams. They will operate at a high level or pretty close to it already.

PayneTrain 23-02-2015 18:51

Re: How many points will you score?
 
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Originally Posted by Siri (Post 1448851)
Exactly true. There's a perennial tendency in FRC to overestimate score contributions.

On this point, I have a related question: what was the average [total alliance] score for last year's Week 1 #1 seeds? Or how about the average alliance score at Worlds?* Just by memory/guessing. (I did the math; you don't have to.) As a refresher: Truss, Catch, High Goal = 10 each. Low Goal = 1. Auto = +5 for Goals; +5 for Hot; 5 for Mobility. 2 Assists = +10, 3 Assists = +30. Fouls added to scores are were 20 and 50.

Do you remember what you thought you'd get in 2014? Do you remember what you did get? Do you remember what seed you were? (You can do this for yourself as well; I did it by hand off TBA.) Take a minute, check the answer, and see if it changes your guess about your points for this year. Does it?


Attachment: Answer to (ASSIST+AUTO+TRUSS&CATCH+TELEOP GOAL&FOUL)/matches for the twelve Week 1 #1 seeds and the average in each World division.

*Karthik talking about overestimating this (in 2012).

What I will say in comparing this game to last year's, how you scored points mattered more in qualification rounds than this year. Assist points were a lot harder to get than T+C and Goal points because they were worth more in the metagame, and Foul points were lower in Week 8 than Week 1.

I think the range from the Week 1 average to the Week 8 average will be higher than last year because not only will teams learn how to use their robots, but learn how their robot scores points most efficiently. 1st order sort will be exclusively used for seeding a lot more than not this year. Types of points this year don't have magnified differences in the metagame like they did in 2014 and to a lesser extent, 2012 and 2013.

MrJohnston 24-02-2015 16:22

Re: How many points will you score?
 
I know that our points will likely change a lot from our first to last competition as we have a drive team with not students who have driven before.... Now that our practice robot is (mostly) working, we hope to see some good practice.... We will also be adding more "interesting" code between now and the end of the seasons... and possibly another function or four.

MrJohnston 24-02-2015 16:23

Re: How many points will you score?
 
Stay tuned for next week's follow up poll question: "How many points did you actually score (on average) in your week 1 event?" :D


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