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ShaneWong 20-02-2015 07:59

Question about unlocking
 
Hi, my team has bagged and tagged out robot however we forgot to take pictures of the final thing. Who would I contact to ask if we would be allowed to unlock it to take pictures?

Harman341 20-02-2015 08:17

Re: Question about unlocking
 
You can take the robot out of the bag for display purposes as long as you don't work on it. It's an honor system after all.

Jon Stratis 20-02-2015 08:18

Re: Question about unlocking
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ShaneWong (Post 1447523)
Hi, my team has bagged and tagged out robot however we forgot to take pictures of the final thing. Who would I contact to ask if we would be allowed to unlock it to take pictures?

The only ones who can give you that permission is FIRST, through the standard frcteams e-mail. Note that the manual does not give permission for unbagging for pictures, but it does allow it for short durations for demonstration purposes (sponsor visit, school pep rally, that sort of thing). So, if you have something like that planned, you can unbag for it and take pictures then.

ShaneWong 20-02-2015 11:26

Re: Question about unlocking
 
Thanks for the help, we do actually have a sponsor coming over soon, so that works out pretty well.

Jimmy Nichols 20-02-2015 11:44

Re: Question about unlocking
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ShaneWong (Post 1447612)
Thanks for the help, we do actually have a sponsor coming over soon, so that works out pretty well.

You must still contact FIRST to get permission and make sure you document the Unlock and Re-Lock on your Lock-Up form. I would also attach the email that FIRST sends to give permission to the Lock-Up form, just in case there are questions.

angelah 20-02-2015 13:47

Re: Question about unlocking
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimmy Nichols (Post 1447620)
You must still contact FIRST to get permission and make sure you document the Unlock and Re-Lock on your Lock-Up form. I would also attach the email that FIRST sends to give permission to the Lock-Up form, just in case there are questions.

I'm looking at 5.5.3 Robot Displays, and I don't see anything about contacting FIRST for permission for those. We didn't get permission last year for one, but maybe we are doing it wrong?

jvriezen 20-02-2015 15:34

Re: Question about unlocking
 
Both last year and this year the rules have allowed for limited (up to four hours) unbagging for media/demonstration purposes, but you can not let your designated drive team drive it, as the practice they get would be in violation of the rules.

Jimmy Nichols 20-02-2015 16:04

Re: Question about unlocking
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jvriezen (Post 1447760)
Both last year and this year the rules have allowed for limited (up to four hours) unbagging for media/demonstration purposes, but you can not let your designated drive team drive it, as the practice they get would be in violation of the rules.

I would rather be safe and email FIRST, its a quick email for them to confirm that it is ok. Why risk it?

SousVide 20-02-2015 19:12

Re: Question about unlocking
 
We did this - emailed FIRST - and the reply we got was to go read the manual - they did referred us to the specific paragraph. No specific permission or disallowance given... Just go read the manual.

EricH 20-02-2015 19:20

Re: Question about unlocking
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimmy Nichols (Post 1447776)
I would rather be safe and email FIRST, its a quick email for them to confirm that it is ok. Why risk it?

Because they specifically stated in the Admin Manual that it is OK to remove the robot from the bag for display.

As long as your tags match up on the form, and the form shows the out-of-bag, you're fine.

GeeTwo 21-02-2015 10:13

Re: Question about unlocking
 
We did an un-bag for a demo outside a local Boot Barn store last year (good fundraiser as well). One of the things we did to keep it from being "driver practice" was to have it driven by a team member who was not on the final drive team, but (to make a good demo) had done reasonably well in tryouts.


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