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468Colleen 23-04-2015 10:38

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Viewing Hopper competition through Blue Alliance feed - 3 views

http://www.thebluealliance.com

Hallry 23-04-2015 10:51

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Originally Posted by 468Colleen (Post 1475125)
Viewing Hopper competition through Blue Alliance feed - 3 views

http://www.thebluealliance.com

All of the streams showing on The Blue Alliance are directly pulled from the NASA webcast. Earlier, the Archimedes and Tesla NASA streams were playing the Hopper feed instead, but that seems to have since been fixed.

XaulZan11 23-04-2015 10:56

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Originally Posted by mwmac (Post 1475109)
FIRST & NASA not ready for the big show? Very disappointing! Still no Tesla feed to be seen. Not the kind of experience one expects for a world championship. Bring on the event feedback questionnaire...

Didn't Frank say at the end of last year that they were putting a group together at FIRST to look at improving the webcasts?

But on the bright side, this won't be an issue once FIRST decides to invite every single team to the championship ;)

PayneTrain 23-04-2015 11:01

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Originally Posted by XaulZan11 (Post 1475131)
Didn't Frank say at the end of last year that they were putting a group together at FIRST to look at improving the webcasts?

But on the bright side, this won't be an issue once FIRST decides to invite every single team to the championship ;)

I know you're being sarcastic, but it's hard to argue that FIRST and the board of directors really care about trying to give FIRST mainstream popularity with moves like this. The community and state organizations are providing better services than the ones FIRST is providing now (TBA, PNW streaming, FIM broadcasting) and yet apparently those in charge don't see the value in having a good end product.

mwmac 23-04-2015 11:02

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Originally Posted by XaulZan11 (Post 1475131)
Didn't Frank say at the end of last year that they were putting a group together at FIRST to look at improving the webcasts?

But on the bright side, this won't be an issue once FIRST decides to invite every single team to the championship ;)

Tongue in cheek aside, this is not an acceptable experience for current and prospective sponsors, educational vip's or state legislators when a team is trying to secure additional support for their activities (not to mention team members and their families unable to travel to Champs). Really looking forward to 2017 when we double the Champs and stretch the volunteer base....

XaulZan11 23-04-2015 11:06

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Originally Posted by mwmac (Post 1475136)
Tongue in cheek aside, this is not an acceptable experience for current and prospective sponsors, educational vip's or state legislators when a team is trying to secure additional support for their activities (not to mention team members and their families unable to travel to Champs). Really looking forward to 2017 when we double the Champs and stretch the volunteer base....

I completely agree. My point was that while we should provide feedback about the poor webcasts (and lack of match results), FIRST has already acknowledged it as something that can be improved and yet here we are.

timytamy 23-04-2015 11:07

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Originally Posted by XaulZan11 (Post 1475131)
But on the bright side, this won't be an issue once FIRST decides to invite every single team to the championship ;)

I know it's a joke, but this is still a big issue for international teams. I'm up at 0100 (local time) watching poor quality, audio-less streams that make it hard to understand whats going on. Inspiring more teams is a big part of FIRST, making championships double/split may or may not be a big part of that plan. But these streams are struggling to even remind me of the amazing atmosphere and experience championships is.

Eugene Fang 23-04-2015 11:08

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Originally Posted by XaulZan11 (Post 1475131)
Didn't Frank say at the end of last year that they were putting a group together at FIRST to look at improving the webcasts?

If FIRST thought that two Championships would improve Champs, it logically follows that they thought having three camera views per field would improve webcasts.

PayneTrain 23-04-2015 11:13

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Originally Posted by Eugene Fang (Post 1475139)
If FIRST thought that two Championships would improve Champs, it logically follows that they thought having three camera views per field would improve webcasts.

Number of angles can help, but the execution on literally almost every other variable into the process of putting together a good webcast is ignored.

dcarr 23-04-2015 11:27

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Originally Posted by PayneTrain (Post 1475140)
Number of angles can help, but the execution on literally almost every other variable into the process of putting together a good webcast is ignored.

Number of angles is only good when you have one decent full field view on screen at all times, which they're not doing. Not to mention, the only full-field view is from directly overhead, which, coupled with the junk resolution, makes it difficult to even see team numbers.

PayneTrain 23-04-2015 11:30

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Originally Posted by dcarr (Post 1475145)
Number of angles is only good when you have one decent full field view on screen at all times, which they're not doing. Not to mention, the only full-field view is from directly overhead, which, coupled with the junk resolution, makes it difficult to even see team numbers.

Those are a small sample of variables that aren't accounted for. The most incredible one is the top down view on robots that have no numbers on the top of them.

Ed Law 23-04-2015 11:34

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I am watching Carver through the link from TBA. 3 views, audio and decent resolution. I can see the team numbers clearly.

Eugene Fang 23-04-2015 11:35

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Originally Posted by PayneTrain (Post 1475146)
Those are a small sample of variables that aren't accounted for. The most incredible one is the top down view on robots that have no numbers on the top of them.

Top down also makes it incredibly hard to see how tall stacks are.

Katie_UPS 23-04-2015 13:42

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I like the split view, because red&blue are operating almost completely independently of eachother and so only seeing one side at a time is silly. I think the third camera (top down) is mostly useless and should just be an occasional feed switch to full screen.

RocketDean 23-04-2015 13:50

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