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smistthegreat 07-03-2015 10:06

Re: Webcasts 2015
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Eugene Fang (Post 1454685)
I just updated GameDay.

Thanks a lot Eugene.

FIRST_Parent 07-03-2015 10:09

Re: Webcasts 2015
 
Frustrating...no webcast as of yet.

GarryU 07-03-2015 10:11

Re: Webcasts 2015
 
I hope someone plugs in the camera very soon. :)

Racer26 07-03-2015 10:34

Re: Webcasts 2015
 
GTRC just went live

Boltman 07-03-2015 10:54

Re: Webcasts 2015
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Boltman (Post 1453938)
Week #2:

REGIONALS

Greater Toronto Central Regional
(3/6-3/7) Practice 3/5 Live

http://new.livestream.com/WatchFIRSTNow/events/3839990

Mexico City Regional (3/6-3/7)

?

Arkansas Rock City Regional (3/6-3/7)
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/breakaway-3937 (goes Live March 6th)

Greater Pittsburgh Regional (3/6-3/7)

TRy this Saturday

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5-i-mb2GHQ#t=4986

http://delphielite.com/2015-greater-...urgh-regional/ (goes live March 6th)

Central Valley Regional 05-Mar - 08-Mar-2015

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSBM2cmqn24


DISTRICT EVENTS

NE First:
Springfield Pioneer Valley Event District (3/6-3/7) - Blue Stream
http://www.twitch.tv/nefirst_blue

North Shore Reading Event District (3/7-3/8) - Red Stream
http://www.twitch.tv/nefirst_red

PNW First:

FRC West Valley District (3/5 - 3/7) - Red Stream
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/pnwfirst-red

FRC Glacier Peak District (3/6 -3/8) - Blue Stream
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/pnwfirst-blue

FIRST in Michigan

FIM District - Kettering Event (3/5 - 3/7)
http://www.twitch.tv/firstinmichigan2
FIM District - Kentwood Event (3/5 - 3/7)
http://www.twitch.tv/firstinmichigan3
FIM District - Waterford Event (3/5 - 3/7)
http://www.twitch.tv/firstinmichigan

Mid-Atlantic Robotics
MAR District Event - Mt. Olive Event (3/6 -3/8) Thanks Jscout11
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1goJRR5WLc (Saturday)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0Q7H-W77zs (Sunday)

Week 2.5
Israel Regional (3/10 -3/12)

Updated Pittsburgh

Navid Shafa 07-03-2015 12:43

Re: Webcasts 2015
 
I know they're on lunch break, but it looks like GTRC crashed again.

Squillo 07-03-2015 16:25

Re: Webcasts 2015
 
Anyone know why the video from Central Valley is jumpy (comes in bursts, not smooth)? I've tried everything, setting-wise, and it's the same on GameDay and YouTube. Very hard to watch.

Anteprefix 07-03-2015 16:31

Re: Webcasts 2015
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Squillo (Post 1454802)
Anyone know why the video from Central Valley is jumpy (comes in bursts, not smooth)? I've tried everything, setting-wise, and it's the same on GameDay and YouTube. Very hard to watch.

When that happens it usually means that the internet at the venue used to broadcast the stream is too slow. Not much that can be done about that other than lowering the broadcasting video quality.

Squillo 08-03-2015 12:40

Re: Webcasts 2015
 
Anyone know if there is a live feed from CVR today? I can't seem to find it; TBA has only recorded video from yesterday and the day before.

Mark McLeod 08-03-2015 12:42

Re: Webcasts 2015
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Squillo (Post 1455028)
Anyone know if there is a live feed from CVR today? I can't seem to find it; TBA has only recorded video from yesterday and the day before.

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...4&postcount=69

Squillo 08-03-2015 13:06

Re: Webcasts 2015
 
Thanks! :)

Boltman 08-03-2015 16:06

Re: Webcasts 2015
 
Week #2:

REGIONALS

Greater Toronto Central Regional
(3/6-3/7) Practice 3/5 Live

http://new.livestream.com/WatchFIRSTNow/events/3839990

Mexico City Regional (3/6-3/7)

?

Arkansas Rock City Regional (3/6-3/7)
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/breakaway-3937 (goes Live March 6th)

Greater Pittsburgh Regional (3/6-3/7)

TRy this Saturday

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5-i-mb2GHQ#t=4986

http://delphielite.com/2015-greater-...urgh-regional/ (goes live March 6th)

Central Valley Regional 05-Mar - 08-Mar-2015

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSBM2cmqn24 (Saturday)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9rAPqi149A (Sunday)


DISTRICT EVENTS

NE First:
Springfield Pioneer Valley Event District (3/6-3/7) - Blue Stream
http://www.twitch.tv/nefirst_blue

North Shore Reading Event District (3/7-3/8) - Red Stream
http://www.twitch.tv/nefirst_red

PNW First:

FRC West Valley District (3/5 - 3/7) - Red Stream
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/pnwfirst-red

FRC Glacier Peak District (3/6 -3/8) - Blue Stream
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/pnwfirst-blue

FIRST in Michigan

FIM District - Kettering Event (3/5 - 3/7)
http://www.twitch.tv/firstinmichigan2
FIM District - Kentwood Event (3/5 - 3/7)
http://www.twitch.tv/firstinmichigan3
FIM District - Waterford Event (3/5 - 3/7)
http://www.twitch.tv/firstinmichigan

Mid-Atlantic Robotics
MAR District Event - Mt. Olive Event (3/6 -3/8) Thanks Jscout11
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1goJRR5WLc (Saturday)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0Q7H-W77zs (Sunday)

Week 2.5
Israel Regional (3/10 -3/12)
http://www.firstisrael.org.il/frc/page.asp?page=3545

Note: Updated Central Valley Sunday & Israelie

dcarr 08-03-2015 19:50

Re: Webcasts 2015
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by StAxis (Post 1453957)
Part of the reason for that is that the streaming process is hardly dealt with by FIRST at all. Oftentimes individual teams are responsible for streaming. I think that looking forward for next year it would be a great idea for FIRST to bring on one or two people to be in charge of event video production and distribution. Getting consistent good quality and I think getting it front paged on twitch would be massive for making it loud.

That would be a great improvement.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin Sevcik (Post 1453998)
So it's not like HQ can easily declare they're going to do something at all the regionals and it just happens. It has to filter through each regional's planning and budgeting process.

I'm not really sure what you mean by this - there are many aspects of regional events that are outlined by HQ and/or the rules. This could be another, if it was decided that quality live streams are categorically important to FRC.

Citrus Dad 09-03-2015 15:07

Re: Webcasts 2015
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin Sevcik (Post 1453998)
Some notes to inform your complaints:
FIRST used to have pretty strict standards for AV at events. So much so that they had a national contract with an AV company to produce each event. AV costs for an event could be in the neighborhood of $50k - $75k, depending on the venue. And that was in several years ago dollars. This could be a significant contributor to a regional's budget.

Many regional events are held at large contracted venues. Absolutely nothing is cheap at these places, including internet. Renting a low bandwidth internet drop can often cost several hundred dollars. A higher bandwidth drop can cost a $1k or more. Yes this is highway robbery. Welcome to the world of expo centers. At some venues, this could probably be mitigated by short-term 4G rentals. Of course 4G reception is also horrendous at some venues.

Webcaster actually used to be a volunteer position. I don't know if it still is since I haven't gone through VIMs recently.

In case you're not familiar with regional organization, each regional is run by a Regional Director, often backed by a Regional Planning Committee. Neither the RD nor the RPC is necessarily affliated with HQ. So many regionals are fairly independent and they all handle their own fundraising and budgeting. So it's not like HQ can easily declare they're going to do something at all the regionals and it just happens. It has to filter through each regional's planning and budgeting process.

In summary, it comes down to dollars. High-end AV and internet for a webcast are expensive. HQ mandating such for every event is probably going to cause funding issues at some events, and HQ can't actually just step in and do it all themselves. Thus the current hodgepodge of solutions.

About the best you could do is HQ arranging something with Twitch so that atleast there's a central location for regionals to stream to if they wanted. I suspect even then you're still going to have regionals that go with their own home-rolled solution they've been running for several years.

The cost and constraints issue is important, but our team and 1318 in the PNW (much better than us) have demonstrated that HD informative webcasts are possible under these conditions.

Kevin Sevcik 10-03-2015 13:43

Re: Webcasts 2015
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dcarr (Post 1455171)
I'm not really sure what you mean by this - there are many aspects of regional events that are outlined by HQ and/or the rules. This could be another, if it was decided that quality live streams are categorically important to FRC.

As I understand it, most of the mandatory requirements of regionals are more mission critical, like pit sizes, the field, volunteer requirements, etc. Are you proposing that HQ bump webcasts and high quality AV into the mandatory category? In that case a regional that couldn't fundraise the additional costs would have to cut things elsewhere like venue size, team capacity, or just plain fold. I'm not sure a high quality webcast is that important.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Citrus Dad (Post 1455590)
The cost and constraints issue is important, but our team and 1318 in the PNW (much better than us) have demonstrated that HD informative webcasts are possible under these conditions.

What are you guys using for your video feed and internet? It's difficult for others to replicate success if we don't know what working elsewhere.


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