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MrRoboSteve 01-03-2015 10:56

Re: Week 1 Observations
 
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Originally Posted by Mike Copioli (Post 1451472)

1. Update your DS software, PDP and PCM firmware to the required versions.

Most teams at NL needed the software updates. The DS update is particularly important as the older version won't connect to the field. We bypassed several teams at Northern Lights during practice for this issue.

You can update the DS software and do items 3, 4, and 5 on Mike's list with the robot in the bag.

Short Stuff 01-03-2015 11:22

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Was ere a problem at the South Florida regional that caused it to go so late last night or just so many teams that it took so long to get through qualifications? I am trying to help my team plan ahead for when we go to the Utah regional in a couple weeks.

Pretzel 01-03-2015 11:32

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Originally Posted by Short Stuff (Post 1451518)
Was ere a problem at the South Florida regional that caused it to go so late last night or just so many teams that it took so long to get through qualifications? I am trying to help my team plan ahead for when we go to the Utah regional in a couple weeks.

South Florida was one of the earliest ending regionals. I remember watching the finals at around 3:00-3:45 mountain time, which I suppose would still be a bit late at 5:00-5:45 EST.

Did you perhaps mean Dallas, which finished at around 9:00-10:00 mountain time? If so, it is because they had to end qualifications matches on Friday at ~3:00 due to weather concerns. This meant they had to finish qualification matches on Saturday afternoon before they could do alliance selections and eliminations.

Short Stuff 01-03-2015 11:41

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Originally Posted by Pretzel (Post 1451522)
South Florida was one of the earliest ending regionals. I remember watching the finals at around 3:00-3:45 mountain time, which I suppose would still be a bit late at 5:00-5:45 EST.

Did you perhaps mean Dallas, which finished at around 9:00-10:00 mountain time? If so, it is because they had to end qualifications matches on Friday at ~3:00 due to weather concerns. This meant they had to finish qualification matches on Saturday afternoon before they could do alliance selections and eliminations.

When I was watching the live stream of South Florida, I saw the finals end at about 7 pm MST

Jade Z 01-03-2015 11:42

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Where is everyone finding match results/rankings/etc? The Blue Alliance only has some of the information I'm looking for, and FRC Spyder stopped updating after the third match for everyone at South Florida this weekend.

Qbot2640 01-03-2015 11:44

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Originally Posted by Tytus Gerrish (Post 1450426)
Recycle rush is the most garbage game ever

Have to agree, pun or no pun...I hate this game!

brrian27 01-03-2015 12:14

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Originally Posted by Jade Z (Post 1451528)
Where is everyone finding match results/rankings/etc? The Blue Alliance only has some of the information I'm looking for, and FRC Spyder stopped updating after the third match for everyone at South Florida this weekend.

For South Florida at least,http://app.robovisionod.com/ has scores and rankings

AlexD744 01-03-2015 12:45

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There is no room for error in eliminations. In quals, a bad match can be overcome because it's only 1/12 - 1/9 of your average. But in quarters and semis, where your average is based on 2-3 matches, you have to be on point for every match. Finals actually is more error tolerant because of the W-L-T system.

SoccerTaco 01-03-2015 12:52

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Originally Posted by AlexD744 (Post 1451553)
There is no room for error in eliminations. In quals, a bad match can be overcome because it's only 1/12 - 1/9 of your average. But in quarters and semis, where your average is based on 2-3 matches, you have to be on point for every match. Finals actually is more error tolerant because of the W-L-T system.

Quoted for TRUTH!

I much prefer the 2 out of 3 W-L format for playoffs.

dodar 01-03-2015 12:53

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Honestly, in the playoff format, the finals this year are easier than the quarters and semis.

Jay O'Donnell 01-03-2015 13:12

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Originally Posted by dodar (Post 1451556)
Honestly, in the playoff format, the finals this year are easier than the quarters and semis.

Agreed. One bad match in quarters/semis (whether it is your own fault or a dead robot) kills your average and chances of advancing, but one bad match finals and you still have a chance to win the other two matches.

rick.oliver 01-03-2015 13:24

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Originally Posted by Tytus Gerrish (Post 1450426)
Recycle rush is the most garbage game ever

I could not disagree more. In my twelve seasons, this is the best game design I've seen.

highlander 01-03-2015 13:35

Re: Week 1 Observations
 
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Originally Posted by rick.oliver (Post 1451570)
I could not disagree more. In my twelve seasons, this is the best game design I've seen.

That's a joke, right?

Doug Frisk 01-03-2015 13:38

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Originally Posted by rick.oliver (Post 1451570)
I could not disagree more. In my twelve seasons, this is the best game design I've seen.

I can't agree with that. In past games, a rookie or not as skilled team had opportunities to contribute where in this game there isn't that opportunity.

Even something as simple as a "noodle plow" requires a good driver and some decent manipulation capability.

As for the totes and recycling containers, their weight and the height they must be lifted means that you need some serious engineering and manufacturing skill to build a machine that can put a full stack together.

rick.oliver 01-03-2015 13:57

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Originally Posted by highlander (Post 1451574)
That's a joke, right?

No, not a joke. I am quite serious. Look at the solutions we saw in Dallas this past weekend ... and without Alfred, too. Really looking forward to see how the season plays out. World Championships are going to be epic, I believe.

Yes, it requires a fair amount of engineering knowledge and experience to be competitive. At the same time, many excellent resources have been established to provide less resourced teams with the strategy, design and manufacturing capability to contribute.

It has been derided (my inference) as a glorified skills contest. I agree, it is a glorified skills contest and I like it very much.


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