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alexander.h 21-03-2015 14:06
Re: 2015 High Score
 
Not the top score overall, but certainly the high score at the Montreal Regional for the time being with 2590, 3360 and 5528 putting up 204 points during the fourth match of the playoffs.

Racer26 21-03-2015 15:01
Re: 2015 High Score
 
1114/2056/5719 just put up 280 in eliminations SF2

1114 built 3 capped/littered 6stacks plus an extra 6stack. (and canswiped 3 cans)

2056 built 2 capped/littered 6stacks plus a capped/littered 5stack.

Bochek 21-03-2015 15:04
Re: 2015 High Score
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Racer26 (Post 1460334)
1114/2056/5719 just put up 280 in eliminations SF1

1114 built 3 capped/littered 6stacks plus an extra 6stack. (and canswiped 3 cans)

2056 built 2 capped/littered 6stacks plus a capped/littered 5stack.
They used all the totes except 3. (not including totes upside down or on the bump)

EricH 21-03-2015 15:10
Re: 2015 High Score
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cglrcng (Post 1460259)
With the increase from 4 to eight Divisional Fields, and a Max. 400 bot field increased to a Max. 600 bot strong invite list to The FIRST FRC Championships.

What are the mathematical odds that under the old, and the new rules 1114/2056/2935 will or could possibly end up in the same Division this year under a completely blind draw? Looking forward to an answer by opening day of The Championships math wizzes.
I'm a mentor. I'm here to say that it's very slim. Because, you see, the "old" rules are just about the same as the new rules.

Why, you ask? Because it's simple: You're placed in a division by order of entry (with payment, IIRC). For any given three teams to end up in the same division, they would need to register X spots apart, where X is the number of divisions. You can't know how many spots apart you actually register, however. So it's very difficult, and solving with pure stats is probably going to inflate the numbers a smidge. But you solve the problem in the exact same way, just with X being 2X for the new way.

Oh, and then you have to factor in 1114's CCA. Means they'd be one of the first teams to register.

Racer26 21-03-2015 15:15
Re: 2015 High Score
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by EricH (Post 1460337)
I'm a mentor. I'm here to say that it's very slim. Because, you see, the "old" rules are just about the same as the new rules.

Why, you ask? Because it's simple: You're placed in a division by order of entry (with payment, IIRC). For any given three teams to end up in the same division, they would need to register X spots apart, where X is the number of divisions. You can't know how many spots apart you actually register, however. So it's very difficult, and solving with pure stats is probably going to inflate the numbers a smidge. But you solve the problem in the exact same way, just with X being 2X for the new way.

Oh, and then you have to factor in 1114's CCA. Means they'd be one of the first teams to register.
I thought that stopped being true a number of years ago, and nowadays your division assignment is strictly random.

If I'm right, its just simple 1/<N-divisions> likelihood of being in a division with a specific team.

Hallry 21-03-2015 15:23
Re: 2015 High Score
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Racer26 (Post 1460334)
1114/2056/5719 just put up 280 in eliminations SF2
HD full-field video

EricH 21-03-2015 15:28
Re: 2015 High Score
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Racer26 (Post 1460338)
I thought that stopped being true a number of years ago, and nowadays your division assignment is strictly random.

If I'm right, its just simple 1/<N-divisions> likelihood of being in a division with a specific team.
Nope.

Previously: Take all teams in a list sorted by number. Go down the list: 1, 2, 3, 4, repeat. (If you're sneaky, reverse a few.) Sort by assigned numbers 1-4. That's the divisional list, and it was so predictable that CD could guess EASILY what the divisions would be based on the team list.

Then they changed it, and it LOOKS strictly random. Now that first list is sorted by registration order for CMP. It's been that way for a few years. Frank noted it in a blog about a year ago, I think (timewise). The only change is that now there are more divisions.

blarson001 23-03-2015 10:13
Re: 2015 High Score
 
High score at the Wisconsin regional was 216 in the semis with 2062, 2826, and 2530

Ether 23-03-2015 10:24
Re: High Score of the Year
 


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Top10 Alliance Final Scores (Qual Matches) Weeks 1 through 4

event        Match        r1        r2        r3        b1        b2        b3        rs        bs        ra        ba        rf        bf        rs+bs        ra+ba        rf+bf        sMax        aMax        fMax
ONWA        20        2935        1114        2056        5158        4308        4039        284        105        20        0        6        12        389        20        18        284        20        12
ONWA        24        5719        1305        5158        1114        5406        1285        22        252        0        20        12        0        274        20        12        252        20        12
MIWMI        47        4995        3234        2405        4967        2137        1918        71        228        8        0        0        0        299        8        0        228        8        0
ILIL        38        648        1701        2220        2481        3201        4096        57        215        0        20        0        0        272        20        0        215        20        0
ONWA        14        2056        1114        4917        865        244        5158        208        32        20        0        0        0        240        20        0        208        20        0
ONWA        36        1114        244        1241        216        4917        5719        207        47        20        0        0        0        254        20        0        207        20        0
ONWA        46        4618        1676        1114        4917        3161        2056        207        192        20        20        0        6        399        40        6        207        20        6
ARFA        80        418        2200        3284        1208        2451        2481        82        206        0        20        0        0        288        20        0        206        20        0
MOSL        82        5492        3284        4330        4256        1986        2783        113        204        0        20        6        0        317        20        6        204        20        6
ONTO        54        2852        2056        1246        781        1241        5076        202        78        20        0        0        0        280        20        0        202        20        0


Top10 Total Match Final Scores (Qual Matches) Weeks 1 through 4

event        Match        r1        r2        r3        b1        b2        b3        rs        bs        ra        ba        rf        bf        rs+bs        ra+ba        rf+bf        sMax        aMax        fMax
ONWA        46        4618        1676        1114        4917        3161        2056        207        192        20        20        0        6        399        40        6        207        20        6
ONWA        20        2935        1114        2056        5158        4308        4039        284        105        20        0        6        12        389        20        18        284        20        12
MOSL        82        5492        3284        4330        4256        1986        2783        113        204        0        20        6        0        317        20        6        204        20        6
NYTR        44        1493        195        287        870        263        340        162        150        0        0        0        0        312        0        0        162        0        0
ONWA        3        4039        4807        5406        1241        4907        2056        140        170        0        0        0        0        310        0        0        170        0        0
UTWV        76        1619        3289        4175        3245        192        5071        172        137        0        0        0        0        309        0        0        172        0        0
ILIL        74        2481        2040        4314        3201        2512        938        165        142        20        20        0        0        307        40        0        165        20        0
ONWA        41        4678        5406        4618        3683        4308        1285        126        180        20        0        0        0        306        20        0        180        20        0
ONWA        54        2056        5406        329        4618        4907        216        202        102        0        0        0        0        304        0        0        202        0        0
CASA        75        295        1280        2643        100        2073        2085        156        144        0        0        0        0        300        0        0        156        0        0

tr6scott 23-03-2015 12:32
Re: 2015 High Score
 
https://youtu.be/MLtHtbcM_CY

Video of the Qualifications 228 put up in West Michigan.

Citrus Dad 23-03-2015 12:33
Re: 2015 High Score
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cglrcng (Post 1460251)
Is a Championship 300+ or 350+ match, out of the question. (A great combo fast canburgler, and tote flipper, and stacker is all they need to use them all up!) 1114 gobbles those totes in record time. I'd swear that bot was alive. (Who's brain did you implant?)
See discussions elsewhere about Einstein and division final strategies. High scores in those matches are more likely in the 250 range as alliances play to win, not rack up high points. There's a difference in this year's game.

TDav540 23-03-2015 12:39
Re: 2015 High Score
 
I know it's not the overall high score, but the high at Virginia this week was 155 during Semifinal 4.

Lil' Lavery 23-03-2015 12:50
Re: 2015 High Score
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Citrus Dad (Post 1461045)
See discussions elsewhere about Einstein and division final strategies. High scores in those matches are more likely in the 250 range as alliances play to win, not rack up high points. There's a difference in this year's game.
Einstein still has quarterfinals and semifinals where teams need to play for averages.

JamesBrown 23-03-2015 13:09
Re: 2015 High Score
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hallry (Post 1460341)
They make this game look incredibly easy.

Donut 23-03-2015 22:30
Re: 2015 High Score
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bochek (Post 1460336)
They used all the totes except 3. (not including totes upside down or on the bump)
By champs elimination alliances could be running out of totes. With some of the great stacking robots also having quick can grabbers from the step, the wise 3rd pick may not be the fast can grabber but instead the upside down and step tote manipulator. If an alliance can ensure they get 2 of the 4 step cans then they can win through sheer number of totes.


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