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Rypsnort 28-02-2015 21:28
Re: 2 v 3 in Dallas
 
It looks like 118 and 624 have been playing with only two robots during finals. Whats up with that. 2613 is now on the field for the last match.

Jay O'Donnell 28-02-2015 21:29
Re: 2 v 3 in Dallas
 
Seems like things were much stricter at Dallas than they were at Granite State. Teams were taking their time with setting up, and everyone was given more than 60 seconds it seemed.

Richard Wallace 28-02-2015 21:31
Re: 2 v 3 in Dallas
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rypsnort (Post 1451276)
It looks like 118 and 624 have been playing with only two robots during finals. Whats up with that. 2613 is now on the field for the last match.
Looks like all six bots are on the field for the final match. :)

dodar 28-02-2015 21:36
Re: 2 v 3 in Dallas
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard Wallace (Post 1451278)
Looks like all six bots are on the field for the final match. :)
And yet its still 2v2

Chinmay 28-02-2015 21:38
Re: 2 v 3 in Dallas
 
Really sad to see 987 getting absolutely wrecked by these elims decisions. Really a shame to not see them get to play for some reason or another.

eddie12390 28-02-2015 21:39
Re: 2 v 3 in Dallas
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dodar (Post 1451281)
And yet its still 2v2
It ended up being 1v2 given that 987 was disabled for breaking the height restriction.

dodar 28-02-2015 21:40
Re: 2 v 3 in Dallas
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by eddie12390 (Post 1451283)
It ended up being 1v2 given that 987 was disabled for breaking the height restriction.
Wasnt the 3rd bot on that alliance working?

MrTechCenter 28-02-2015 21:40
Re: 2 v 3 in Dallas
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by eddie12390 (Post 1451283)
It ended up being 1v2 given that 987 was disabled for breaking the height restriction.
Blue still had two alliance members active. 2v2

DohertyBilly 28-02-2015 21:43
Re: 2 v 3 in Dallas
 
G7 When placed on the FIELD for a MATCH, each ROBOT must be:
A. in compliance with all ROBOT rules, i.e. it has passed Inspection. For exceptions regarding Practice MATCHES, see Section 5.2 – Practice MATCHES.
B. fully supported by the floor, SCORING PLATFORM, and/or SCORING PLATFORM ramps on their ALLIANCE’S side of the
FIELD, and
C. completely outside of their AUTO ZONE and LANDFILL ZONE.
VIOLATION: If fix is a quick remedy, the MATCH won’t start until all requirements are met. If it is not a quick remedy the offending
ROBOT will be DISABLED and at the discretion of the Head REFEREE must be re-Inspected.

Nowhere in the pre-match rules does it state anything about being above the height limit, that is assumed to be part of G7-A, and is the responsibility of the inspectors. If 987 passed inspection with that add on, then there is no reason for them to be disabled, and if they didn't pass inspection there is no reason they would have gone through with that auto...what just happened?

Chinmay 28-02-2015 21:43
Re: 2 v 3 in Dallas
 
Did they measure that using 1678's cut up tape measures.

It's the most absurd thing to try and watch any matches as an alumni and try to explain robotics to friends/family to show them why I enjoy the sport if the refs decide matches before they start.

I'm sure there's an explaination but as a viewer I'm pretty disappointed.

dodar 28-02-2015 21:45
Re: 2 v 3 in Dallas
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by DohertyBilly (Post 1451288)
G7 When placed on the FIELD for a MATCH, each ROBOT must be:
A. in compliance with all ROBOT rules, i.e. it has passed Inspection. For exceptions regarding Practice MATCHES, see Section 5.2 – Practice MATCHES.
B. fully supported by the floor, SCORING PLATFORM, and/or SCORING PLATFORM ramps on their ALLIANCE’S side of the
FIELD, and
C. completely outside of their AUTO ZONE and LANDFILL ZONE.
VIOLATION: If fix is a quick remedy, the MATCH won’t start until all requirements are met. If it is not a quick remedy the offending
ROBOT will be DISABLED and at the discretion of the Head REFEREE must be re-Inspected.

Nowhere in the pre-match rules does it state anything about being above the height limit, that is assumed to be part of G7-A, and is the responsibility of the inspectors. If 987 passed inspection with that add on, then there is no reason for them to be disabled, and if they didn't pass inspection there is no reason they would have gone through with that auto...what just happened?
Doesnt the robot rules state a max height?

XaulZan11 28-02-2015 21:46
Re: 2 v 3 in Dallas
 
For those who watched Dallas, did 2613 ever get the RC bins from the step in auto? If not, that is a brilliant move by that alliance to get 987 to forgo those 28 auto points (and eventually be deemed illegal).

Gregor 28-02-2015 21:48
Re: 2 v 3 in Dallas
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by XaulZan11 (Post 1451294)
For those who watched Dallas, did 2613 ever get the RC bins from the step in auto? If not, that is a brilliant move by that alliance to get 987 to forgo those 28 auto points (and eventually be deemed illegal).
From what I saw they never did.

CTHP 28-02-2015 21:48
Re: 2 v 3 in Dallas
 
987 and 148 on the Red Alliance were robbed. How is it possible the 987 was now 'too tall' and disabled in the final game-deciding match?

Gregor 28-02-2015 21:49
Re: 2 v 3 in Dallas
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jacob Bendicksen (Post 1451265)
The refs and field crew at PNW Oregon City pretty much said 'if it's safe, don't worry about transport config' the entire time, including quals and playoffs. We were about 2 hours behind on Friday even with that, though...
What even are rules if it's decided to not follow them?


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