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Richard.Varone 03-03-2015 13:13

Re: Unique Designs
 
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Originally Posted by Mike Marandola (Post 1452279)
Like this if I'm not mistaken



I can't remember if the wheels are Colsons or the Fairlane expandable wheels.

If I remember correctly they where using Fairlane wheels, looked like 4"x1".

MegaAlberto 03-03-2015 14:21

Re: Unique Designs
 
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Originally Posted by ice.berg (Post 1452260)
Is there anyone with unique autonomous routines or systems??

Kinda disappointed by what I saw in week one.. Seems like a lot of teams ignored autonomous this year.

987 was able to get nearly every possible autonomous item and score it, the only exception was that they miss one container so it isn't counted as a container set, but besides that they could score every possible autonomous point if they were alone. There should be some videos on it in dallasfirstvideo.com.

JABot67 03-03-2015 14:31

Re: Unique Designs
 
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Originally Posted by MegaAlberto (Post 1452870)
987 was able to get nearly every possible autonomous item and score it, the only exception was that they miss one container so it isn't counted as a container set, but besides that they could score every possible autonomous point if they were alone. There should be some videos on it in dallasfirstvideo.com.

I can't seem to navigate the site well enough to see the videos, but I do wonder how they could get the maximum autonomous points:

Robot Set - 4 points
Container Set - 8 points
Stacked Tote Set - 20 points

Total is 32 points.

Could they get a robot set by themselves? If not, and they don't get the container set as well (you said they didn't), then it's just the standard 20 points from the stacked tote set that we've seen from some other teams.

EDIT: Of course I could just watch the video on TBA. That is a sweet autonomous!!! One robot, two containers, three totes.

Mastonevich 03-03-2015 14:39

Re: Unique Designs
 
I believe they get 2 RCs and all 3 yellow totes and then move into the auto zone. An impressive feat to say the least.

JohnSchneider 03-03-2015 14:44

Re: Unique Designs
 
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Originally Posted by JABot67 (Post 1452875)
I can't seem to navigate the site well enough to see the videos, but I do wonder how they could get the maximum autonomous points:

Robot Set - 4 points
Container Set - 8 points
Stacked Tote Set - 20 points

Total is 32 points.

Could they get a robot set by themselves? If not, and they don't get the container set as well (you said they didn't), then it's just the standard 20 points from the stacked tote set that we've seen from some other teams.

EDIT: Of course I could just watch the video on TBA. That is a sweet autonomous!!! One robot, two containers, three totes.

Just learned this weekend: you can get a robot set by yourself if you're the only robot!

JABot67 03-03-2015 16:16

Re: Unique Designs
 
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Originally Posted by JohnSchneider (Post 1452885)
Just learned this weekend: you can get a robot set by yourself if you're the only robot!

Whoa!

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Originally Posted by The Manual
A ROBOT SET requires all ROBOTS from an ALLIANCE who are playing in a particular MATCH in order to be scored. For example, if ROBOTS A, B and C are on an ALLIANCE, but ROBOT B is not on the FIELD for a particular MATCH (or has been DISABLED by the FIELD staff prior to the MATCH), the ROBOT SET only requires two (2) ROBOTS.

And I thought I read through the manual. Must have skimmed over that part... :ahh:

Seems like the rule might apply to the vacuous truth case of 0 robots on the field. Does this mean the maximum score you can get with no robots on an alliance is 44 points? Maybe this has been discussed somewhere else. Not a bad score though!

Tyler2474 04-03-2015 00:23

Re: Unique Designs
 
The Duluth East Daredevils (Team 2512) have a very cool mechanism for autonomous; I'll let you watch it for yourself. They succeeded in doing this almost every match at the Duluth Northern Lights Regional.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9Z8eQzYMYY#t=2m12s

AllenGregoryIV 04-03-2015 01:13

Re: Unique Designs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyler2474 (Post 1453188)
The Duluth East Daredevils (Team 2512) have a very cool mechanism for autonomous; I'll let you watch it for yourself. They succeeded in doing this almost every match at the Duluth Northern Lights Regional.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9Z8eQzYMYY#t=2m12s

thanks for pointing this one out, I don't know how I missed this until now. That is very clever, and very do able by a lot of teams.

MegaAlberto 04-03-2015 10:36

Re: Unique Designs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JABot67 (Post 1452875)
I can't seem to navigate the site well enough to see the videos, but I do wonder how they could get the maximum autonomous points:

Robot Set - 4 points
Container Set - 8 points
Stacked Tote Set - 20 points

Total is 32 points.

Could they get a robot set by themselves? If not, and they don't get the container set as well (you said they didn't), then it's just the standard 20 points from the stacked tote set that we've seen from some other teams.

EDIT: Of course I could just watch the video on TBA. That is a sweet autonomous!!! One robot, two containers, three totes.

Hmm, I thought there might be a way to watch matches individually, I guess not. But yes, a robot set could count if there is only one robot in the field.

JB987 04-03-2015 10:41

Re: Unique Designs
 
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Originally Posted by AllenGregoryIV (Post 1453215)
thanks for pointing this one out, I don't know how I missed this until now. That is very clever, and very do able by a lot of teams.

Very cool, but how is this any less illegal than 148's Alfred string set?

Siri 04-03-2015 11:04

Re: Unique Designs
 
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Originally Posted by JB987 (Post 1453300)
Very cool, but how is this any less illegal than 148's Alfred string set?

As an unofficial guess, the argument about Alfred seemed to be more about placement than the string itself. Since it was suspended between multiple tether bots, it spanned the alliance's field and was at approximate walking-into level. I looks like you'd have to try to walk into this setup (unless I can't see all of it), thus making it less of a safety hazard.

Mastonevich 04-03-2015 11:46

Re: Unique Designs
 
This:
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...hreadid=135445

I mean how many teams have googly eyes?

Whippet 04-03-2015 11:50

Re: Unique Designs
 
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Originally Posted by Mastonevich (Post 1453331)
I mean how many teams have googly eyes?

Quite a few, apparently.

Christopher149 04-03-2015 12:00

Re: Unique Designs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JB987 (Post 1453300)
Very cool, but how is this any less illegal than 148's Alfred string set?

Perhaps: 148's is black, but 2512's is a bright red-orange.

ice.berg 04-03-2015 12:35

Re: Unique Designs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyler2474 (Post 1453188)
The Duluth East Daredevils (Team 2512) have a very cool mechanism for autonomous; I'll let you watch it for yourself. They succeeded in doing this almost every match at the Duluth Northern Lights Regional.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9Z8eQzYMYY#t=2m12s

Quote:

Originally Posted by AllenGregoryIV (Post 1453215)
thanks for pointing this one out, I don't know how I missed this until now. That is very clever, and very do able by a lot of teams.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Siri (Post 1453310)
As an unofficial guess, the argument about Alfred seemed to be more about placement than the string itself. Since it was suspended between multiple tether bots, it spanned the alliance's field and was at approximate walking-into level. I looks like you'd have to try to walk into this setup (unless I can't see all of it), thus making it less of a safety hazard.

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Originally Posted by JB987 (Post 1453300)
Very cool, but how is this any less illegal than 148's Alfred string set?

Ill try and answer these questions a little bit here.

The main difference I see between this and alfred is the string we chose. The students purposely chose the style of string because of the size and color. We could have gone with a much smaller for example mono-filament fishing line, but we found in our testing that the visibility of this was quite dangerous. We then moved on to our current option which is a braided line that is neon orange and easily visible. (even in the webcast)

We were also warned throughly during inspections about the entanglement hazards our system poses. We assured the inspector that with proper coordination with our alliance partners as well as our lengthy testing before bag 'n tag that it would not be a problem.

Our strategy team also brought specific rules and responses from Q&A to help support our design.

Keep an eye out for a full featured reveal/recap video towards Friday (3/6) :D


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