Team 1114 - Simbot SideSwipe
 

For those who are interested, here's out 2015 robot, Simbot SideSwipe:



We'll see you at GTR Central, Waterloo, and the Windsor-Essex Great Lakes Regionals!

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My joke about someone making a robot that looks like a crab came true....

Am I right in assuming that the totes are sucked in, before being pushed up a crazy fast elevator? :O

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Very nice looking machine. Are you going to be posting a facts sheet for the robot soon?

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I don't know what to be scared of more - this beautiful robot, or the fact that y'all had time to powdercoat the entire thing this year.

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Finally!
We have also joked about our robot's intakes looking like crab claws, and thus they are now officially deemed "the crabs."

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I don't know if it's the camera angle or just the new sizing rules, but this robot looks absolutely huge.

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I have a hunch the elevator rotates or removes, and the robot is stored vertically on the cart.

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Awesome looking robot, but why isn't it called "Mr. Krabs"!?!

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That could definitely explain why the supports for the mast aren't attached in this photo.

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Oh my... I cant wait to see it in action. I have a feeling this thing will stun us all when it hits the field. Another great robot from 1114! #TeamIFI

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That robot is a crab, and you can't convince me otherwise. Looking forward to seeing how it works.

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Wow - that's one fancy robot! How is that elevator driven? What's on the sides?

I can't wait to watch this robot compete this weekend.

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I spy with my little eyes, omni wheels placed at different angles. Interesting drivetrain choice.

Edit: Is it just me, or do those wheel modules look like they rotate as well? ;)

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Wow...this thing is just beautiful. Are some pieces missing? It seems odd to have a pretty thin support for a whole stack of totes - I'd expect to see supports on the sides, as well.

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Beautiful! My wild guess is that the tall lift only lifts the container, and the totes are stacked and supported by the bottom.

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I spy some chain loops in the side towers. My guess is that these have hooks on them which work in conjunction with the pneumatic latches to stack totes, and the claw (typically with container in it) is used to provide downwards stabilizing pressure.

Clever design if so. A lot of the chain conveyor based designs have problems with sagging, but doing it on each side of the tote fixes this.

Still something odd going on in the back. Container grabber, maybe?

Also, that roller intake looks like it's been through a LOT of prototype iterations. I'm guessing that the performance of this will play a huge part in setting this machine apart.

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Wheres the auto bin grabber? ::eek::

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I think you forgot a wheel.

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Nice looking machine! No doubt it performs even better than it looks - best of luck! #TeamIFI

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I think they forgot 3.

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Alright theres the first robot, where are the other two?
Y'all gotta keep up with your southern IFI companions

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you missed the chance to call it Mr. Krabs :(

Good luck, hopefully we see each other at Worlds :P

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+1 big chuckle!

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Mysterious lift structure... is there no chain or belt to move the bin claw from the bottom to the top?

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My guess is that the can stabilizer claw is on a passive trolley and moves up the rails as a stack of totes is built under it.

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Looks like those weighted decision matrices finally spewed out something that is not "tank drive" for 1114.

I didn't think I'd see the day this would happen. Incredible.

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I really hope that's the kiwi drive it looks like.

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Whoa, color-coded pneumatics that match the color scheme (red for "pull" and black for "push"). No detail too small. Can't wait to see it in action!

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Word on the "street" was that you folks went holonomic.
They werent kidding!
Beautiful robot as always, and I bet it'll perform as such.

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crab drive maybe?

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Not to put too fine a point on it, but they seem to have made a similar trade offs to another team I'm familiar with (cough, cough, Overclocked, cough cough)

Specifically, large wheel base 3 Wheel Drive with the ability to go in all directions. I haven't seen them in transport configuration but I suppose the right and left wheel modules fold back behind their tower. Am I right or am I crazy?

In any case, it looks like another beautiful robot from a FIRST team with a history of making great robots. Well done.

Cheers,
Joe J.

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Who needs #teamtether when you have...

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They posted a picture of a new cart they designed for this robot, and it had pronounced walls on the side of of the cart. We once designed a robot with an H-drive and one of the first things we found out is that the robot wanted to roll off the cart so we had to add walls to the cart to keep that from happening. So my bet is on something with omni wheels.

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Just watched a practice match.
This machine is incredibly fast at stacking from the landfill.
Also looks like there's a container grabber on the back, if I'm not mistaken.

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Oh my... Just watched one of 1114's practice matches - crazy. They got 2 capped six stacks out of the landfill with plenty of time to kill. If they aren't going to do anything else, I can see them easily getting 3 capped 6 stacks consistently.

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It appeared to me that they put some sort of device near the chute door. It fell down during auto, but I wonder if that was part of their plan for post landfill.

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Video anywhere?

EDIT: Rewound the livestream and got it. Wow, they are quick.

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Did anyone else see that they were rotating the bins upright from the floor. Any ideas how they are doing that?

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http://new.livestream.com/WatchFIRSTNow/events/3839990

Their practice match starts at 44:45 and is very impressive - they score 98 points by themselves in their first match.

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They're up again right now starting any second on the live stream.

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What did I just watch? :ahh:

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1114 just scored 126 points by themselves...

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That was very impressive, I'm currently picking my jaw up off of the ground :eek:

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With a bit more practice, I think they can do 4x 6-stack with container.

They did 3x 6stack, 2 of them with litter, plus a 1tote,1container stack.

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Wow. That's fancy. What is it about 2 seconds per tote? Nice job 1114

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Being totally fair, I think 4343 *did* put the litter in the 3rd recycle bin that 1114 picked up.

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2x 6 tote stacks with bin in 60 seconds is pretty fast.

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Where would they get the other six totes? It doesn't look like they can stack upside down totes, or stack efficiently from the tote chute.

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One could say they are just warming up.

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And had 30 seconds on the clock after dropping off the 3rd 6-stack...

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Did you not see them flipping the recycle containers upright? I wouldn't be surprised if later in the season we see them flipping those upside down totes. Alternatively, their alliance mates could get 6 more out of the chute for them while they're stacking the first 18.

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You guys devour that landfill, and the speed at which you right the containers is impressive. So fun to watch.

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The more I think about it:

I've watched 1114 dominate year in and year out for 13 years now.

I would find it highly suspect if they hadn't examined the ability to right those upside down containers or stack them as-is, given their demonstrated prowess at eliminating the first 18 right-side-up ones.

They'd have to know that to beat the best of the best at championship that 3x 6stacks won't be enough. There will be several teams by champs that can do what 1114 just did. Karthik has routinely stated that 1114 doesn't build robots to win regionals, they build robots to win Championship.

There's a bin-flipper or upside-down-bin-stacker in Sideswipe somewhere. Or at the very least, a plan to add one.

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Anyone know what that big aluminum structure is that they put on the field by the alliance station?

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There's zero benefit to the upside down totes in the landfill come champs elims. Get the 4 cans off the step and you don't need to touch them at all. Don't get the 4 cans off the step and you can't win even with the upside down ones.

If you can make 3 capped and noodled stacks of 6 you've done exactly enough to win championships...as long as you can acquire those 4 bins.

But keep watching...they had a device they tried to use that would make a line of totes for them to gobble up at the HP station.

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I totally agree with you, but you said with more practice, i.e. tomorrow/saturday.

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Just watched the practice match after hunting around in the stream. That was probably the coolest thing I have seen so far this year. Their amazing stack system plus their great driving has made this my favorite robot so far.


Just saw the human player tether bot, love it :D

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Like their 2013 floor pickup.

Robots don't need to do everything to win world championships. :)

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What match number was it?

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The chute thingy must potentially attach to an alliance partner for regulation play, right? It doesn't tether to them or anything from what I can see on the webcast.

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Well, the human player thing was around 1:31:00 ish. And the match they put up a ton of points was around 0:38:00 ish.

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It's a ramp to load the totes. Is it tethered to the robot?

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What happens if both alliances get two bins off the step? Or do you envision that as unlikely?

Watching the livestream, 1114's robot, even at practice matches on Day 1, looks to be playing beautifully. And the HP contraption, regardless of whether it continues to work, is brilliant out-of-the-box thinking.

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Just watched a match doing 3 capped stacks using both landfill and feeder station.
This by far is the best robot I've seen in 2015. Chances are it wont change even after everyone else unveils/plays this season.

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17 i believe

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There's 8 stacks worth of upright totes in the landfill and the human loading station. Hard to imagine depleting all those regardless of your can situation.

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By my count: There is 245 points you cannot defend against.

3 capped and noodled stacks of 6 ((6x2 totes x 3) + (6x4 container x3) + (6 noodle x3)) = 126

20 pts stacked autoset + 8 point container set + 4 point robot set = 32

10 inverted totes put in scoring position = 20 points

30 alliance wall totes in scoring position = 60 points

7 remaining litter in LANDFILL = 7

126+32+20+60+7 = 245.

245 is the max other alliance score if you don't let the other alliance have any of the 4 step recycling bins or any of the 12 step totes.

If you only take the 4 bins, you leave a max possible of 269 (another 24 tote points possible).

6x capped and littered 6stacks = 256

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It's odd to think the maximum score possible is set by the amount of game pieces available in a match.

Whereas last year, the maximum score was only limited by the speed at which teams could score the ball.

Speed is still a factor in positively outscoring your opponent, but only to a certain degree.

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Any videos of them? Stream seems to be down.

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I sure didn't see a tether the one time I saw the ramp being used. It appears to be a passive ramp, so if the tether is necessary for the sake of rules it probably isn't very big.


#teamnotether ?

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If it tethered to another alliance member, that alliance member would have to at least get weighed and possibly get inspected with the chute attached.

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This robot is the real deal.

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Can anyone link to a video of it in action? The link earlier in the thread doesn't have any archived videos of the matches yet.

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The ramp is simply a hopper its long enough to have 4 totes at the ready and the hp simply tops it up until they have 6. It allows them to intake 6 totes in 12 seconds with the limiting factor being the speed that the totes slide down the ramp. Completely passive, weighs barely anything, it's attached by some orange string.

So far this robot is too small and cute to be terrifying, but do not be fooled.

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Here's a bit of a practice match I was capable of taking:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emDUF6HXG6U

Here's one I found courtesy of Brennan Bibic from 4476:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFPITcD6Sos

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Thanks! Couldn't see much in terms of the ramp that I keep hearing about but I understand the gist of it. Their landfill stacking is extremely impressive - wow.

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That is incredible. :yikes:

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There isn't much to talk about regarding the ramp. I think that you can kind of see it at Red's left feeder station in the second video. The few matches I caught, they never used it and they even bumped into it once rendering it useless. I talked to one of their members afterwards, and it appears that it is there to help alliance members feed from the station as if they are feeding from the landfill.

Team to beat at GTRC. They'll immediately be tested by 4001 and 3360 in match 1 too.

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The thing that surprises me the most is how effective the kiwi drive is. I hadn't considered how beneficial 3 points of contact would be. they can basically just drive anywhere.

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It makes me so happy that there's a kiwi on what is probably one of, if not the best robots in the world now.

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15 years of doing FRC, and every year there is still an "OH SH*T" moment of an awe inspiring robot.

Thanks for this year's version, 1114.

-Brando

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I'm only a fangirl over 4039 and can be pretty needlessly critical and always willing to shut down a bandwagon.

So when I say that if any robot, if perfectly executed, could easily 1-man BTFO an entire regional, it'a 1114 at GTRC. Pick 1310 to get the other 3-tote auto off the board and they could probably get through to finals until they needed a 2nd, much less third robot if they perfectly executed. That being said, I don't expect that to actually happen. Just saying I think it could happen.

When 1114 is ready enough to powdercoat the whole robot, people should rightly be terrified.

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:26 seconds to stack 6+RC and score IMPRESSIVE! I think that's faster than 118.

One has to wonder though the video started at :55 so what were they doing the other :80 seconds? I did not see more than one existing 6stack + RC making it slower than 118??

They should have had more based on that video and :26 second stacks? At least another stack based on the stack built speed.

Love the design and intake though and the color!

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Absolutely fabulous robot! The only other team that seems to be able to put up as many game pieces is 148... and 1114 presents the freedom of gathering from the landfill or from the HP station.

So glad to see 1114 come out of the gate setting the bar incredibly high, particularly after last year's slow start (for 1114 standards).

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And your video is the reason I saw their step grabber.... Man... and to think they didn't have one! lol

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How do they flip the RC's that are tipped? Livestream is too low-quality to make this out.

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To me, looks like they use the two sets of wheels (front and back) to suck in the RC, then flip it upright.

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Yeah, I get that part. I'm confused by what they're using TO flip them. It happens so fast... like magic :O

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I was assuming that in the act of sucking the RC in, it pivots at the stop on the bottom of the RC causing it to move upward.

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Yep, confirmed it's magic.

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Possibly they pull it in and catch the bottom to tip it up. Using the polycarb pieces they have in the front of the robot. I believe they added them after the original picture was taken.

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I'll take a close up picture of it today.

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Simbotics has a Qualification average 142.9 while 2nd place has an average of 73.6...

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I think they're moving the "lift belts" on the side downward which pushes the back of the can down while the wheels pull the container in.

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Does anyone know how simbots ramp is tethered in the GTC Regional?

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Uhhh... Strap?