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philso 04-03-2015 12:06

Would these be considered COTS legal?
 
Would it be legal to use one of these on our robot to handle the totes? The manipulator would have to be modified slightly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7lKo9ERX2s


Maybe we could use one of these to manipulate the noodles.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qt_6cQCBjC8

Christopher149 04-03-2015 12:14

Re: Would these be considered COTS legal?
 
So long as you can buy it from a vendor, is a component <$400, is safe, contains no illegal motors... sure, why not?

MrJohnston 04-03-2015 12:18

Re: Would these be considered COTS legal?
 
You'd likely have to cheese-hole the heck out of it....

FrankJ 04-03-2015 12:40

Re: Would these be considered COTS legal?
 
It would have to stay under the 78" height limit. From the sound of it, you will need a bigger compressor.

philso 04-03-2015 22:43

Re: Would these be considered COTS legal?
 
I saw these at the ABB APW trade show here in Houston. They were showing off their various products. My colleagues and I were there to attend some of the (excellent) classes and to spy on their products that we compete with.

The industrial robot salesmen I spoke with was amused that our game was so similar to their demo and said that their division works with FIRST quite a bit and love seeing what the kids come up with.

http://new.abb.com/apw

Chad987 04-03-2015 22:46

Re: Would these be considered COTS legal?
 
I'd suggest taking a look at 3310. Their robot is awesome and ridiculously fluid.

asid61 05-03-2015 00:03

Re: Would these be considered COTS legal?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad987 (Post 1453772)
I'd suggest taking a look at 3310. Their robot is awesome and ridiculously fluid.

+1. 3310 essentially just used an arm like that one to stack totes.
If it's <120lbs and it's a donation, plus i uses approved motors and such, I guess nothing really stops you? Not 100% sure those are likely to begin with.

Mulcahy 05-03-2015 00:41

Re: Would these be considered COTS legal?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad987 (Post 1453772)
I'd suggest taking a look at 3310. Their robot is awesome and ridiculously fluid.

3310 - Truly a work of art.....

tomead 05-03-2015 13:15

Re: Would these be considered COTS legal?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by philso (Post 1453346)
Would it be legal to use one of these on our robot to handle the totes? The manipulator would have to be modified slightly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7lKo9ERX2s

You shall see our robot at the Bayou competition, our design was based on that of a palletizing robot. Picture the robot in your video on wheels and you will pretty much have our robot. If you have seen the FRC Rhapsody video, the control system of this robot proves that the math has finally found its place.

philso 05-03-2015 23:15

Re: Would these be considered COTS legal?
 
Tomead

I was able to watch some of the Dallas Live Stream last week. It was very cool to see your robot at work. It looked like you got a lot of the advantages of the "conveyor belt bots with no wheels" but with mobility. I am surprised you are the only team I have seen so far using this strategy. That is why I put up these videos from the trade show I have been attending this week.

I am looking forward to having a closer look at your robot in two weeks.

BBray_T1296 06-03-2015 14:07

Re: Would these be considered COTS legal?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by philso (Post 1454263)
I am surprised you are the only team I have seen so far using this strategy.

The fluid motion profiling of a 4 DOF arm is not a simple one to program. I am not so surprised for this reason.

It is almost as if 3310 has a mentor with particular knowledge of these systems :D


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