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Pat Fairbank 04-03-2015 17:54

Team 254 Presents: Deadlift
 
Team 254, NASA Ames Robotics "The Cheesy Poofs", proudly presents our 2015 robot: Deadlift.

Deadlift will compete at the Central Valley Regional, Silicon Valley Regional, and FIRST Championship.

Team 254 is sponsored by NASA Ames Research Center, Google, Ooyala, The Mercadante Family, BAE Systems, The Kasle Family, Qualcomm, Intuitive Surgical, Vivid-Hosting, West Coast Products, Mentor Graphics, The Jimenez Family, The Magarelli Family, The Kumar Family, Gilbert Spray Coat, Pacific Coast Metal, Applied Welding, Cisco, Four-D Metal Finishing, and Bellarmine College Preparatory.

cgmv123 04-03-2015 17:55

Re: Team 254 Presents: Deadlift
 
Just a picture? (It's an impressive picture, though.)

Chris Endres 04-03-2015 17:55

Re: Team 254 Presents: Deadlift
 
Great robot, as always. Can't wait to check it out at CMP.

brandon.cottrell 04-03-2015 17:56

Re: Team 254 Presents: Deadlift
 
They'll be at Central Valley this weekend, you can see it then.

Neima 04-03-2015 17:56

Re: Team 254 Presents: Deadlift
 
so many belts! very cool!

Libby K 04-03-2015 17:57

Re: Team 254 Presents: Deadlift
 
Beautiful robot as always, 254. Loving the name. Do you even lift, bro?!

CTbiker105 04-03-2015 17:57

Re: Team 254 Presents: Deadlift
 
Good luck losing a stack from that. One of the sturdiest looking bots I've seen yet.

Also, those intake rollers look familiar...

RoboChair 04-03-2015 17:58

Re: Team 254 Presents: Deadlift
 
No Step Auto mechanism shown.

Looks like a feeder station bot to me.

Sohaib 04-03-2015 17:58

Re: Team 254 Presents: Deadlift
 
Looks a fantastic machine as always. Can't wait to see it compete, and hopefully in person at Championships. ;)

Sean Raia 04-03-2015 17:58

Re: Team 254 Presents: Deadlift
 
If you miss any of their regionals, be sure to watch them on Einstein ;)

TheOtherGuy 04-03-2015 17:58

Re: Team 254 Presents: Deadlift
 
This just in: moving sideways still a colossal waste of time.

Can't wait to see this in a few days in person!

g_sawchuk 04-03-2015 17:59

Re: Team 254 Presents: Deadlift
 
Nice robot. What was that thing that was blocked out that looked like a mini bot though?

Paperclips 04-03-2015 17:59

Re: Team 254 Presents: Deadlift
 
Really nice looking robot!
Seems mechanically simplistic but really elegant.
Not surprised to see that 254 has not gone mechanum this year...
Any chance we'll be seeing a reveal video in the near future?

Andrew Lawrence 04-03-2015 18:00

Re: Team 254 Presents: Deadlift
 
I'd be willing to bet that this isn't even their final form. A very elegant solution, as always. Deadlift will go far this weekend.

Scott Kozutsky 04-03-2015 18:01

Re: Team 254 Presents: Deadlift
 
Anyone else notice chief being a lot laggier than usual?

Flimsor 04-03-2015 18:01

Re: Team 254 Presents: Deadlift
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RoboChair (Post 1453603)
No Step Auto mechanism shown.

Looks like a feeder station bot to me.

That's what I was thinking too, but it looks like they might be able to grab totes and the bin with those exterior arms.

tim-tim 04-03-2015 18:02

Re: Team 254 Presents: Deadlift
 
But how much do you bench press?
Amazing robot, but I'm not sold we have seen it all yet.

Mike Marandola 04-03-2015 18:02

Re: Team 254 Presents: Deadlift
 
Looking good! Can't wait to see it in action. This is the best implementation of the team numbers that I have seen.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott Kozutsky (Post 1453610)
Anyone else notice chief being a lot laggier than usual?

Maybe because a bunch of people were all logging on at 2:54 PST?

Siri 04-03-2015 18:03

Re: Team 254 Presents: Deadlift
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RoboChair (Post 1453603)
No Step Auto mechanism shown...

No, but this is on their Facebook page. I don't see it on their robot, but it looks Step Can grab-y.

Looks great, per usual. Can't wait to see it in action!

fr05ty27355 04-03-2015 18:06

Re: Team 254 Presents: Deadlift
 
How about that elevator gearbox... :yikes:

Mecanum Wheel 04-03-2015 18:09

Re: Team 254 Presents: Deadlift
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paperclips (Post 1453608)
Really nice looking robot!
Seems mechanically simplistic but really elegant.
Not surprised to see that 254 has not gone mechanum this year...
Any chance we'll be seeing a reveal video in the near future?

Hey Audrey. Just for future reference, it's spelled mecanum. No worries, it's an easy mistake to make. Good luck this season!

cgmv123 04-03-2015 18:10

Re: Team 254 Presents: Deadlift
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Marandola (Post 1453614)
Maybe because a bunch of people were all logging on at 2:54 PST?

We're at about a third of the users we had on Sunday. (Which was a new site record.)

PayneTrain 04-03-2015 18:12

Re: Team 254 Presents: Deadlift
 
Most people are looking at this robot but I keep looking at the sponsor list and remember we need to get more sponsors 0_0.

Eugene Fang 04-03-2015 18:17

Re: Team 254 Presents: Deadlift
 
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Hella tall indeed.

thatprogrammer 04-03-2015 18:20

Re: Team 254 Presents: Deadlift
 
So we have to wait until tomorrow or Friday to see this in action? (Someone, PLEASE record this tomorrow :D)

Thad House 04-03-2015 18:20

Re: Team 254 Presents: Deadlift
 
Why the off the shelf wheels, and what looks like thunderhex for the drive?

Andrew Lawrence 04-03-2015 18:22

Re: Team 254 Presents: Deadlift
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thatprogrammer (Post 1453626)
So we have to wait until tomorrow or Friday to see this in action? (Someone, PLEASE record this tomorrow :D)

CVR is a Friday - Sunday event.

notmattlythgoe 04-03-2015 18:22

Re: Team 254 Presents: Deadlift
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Thad House (Post 1453627)
Why the off the shelf wheels, and what looks like thunderhex for the drive?

Is it Thunderhex or is it just hex that has the ends turned down so the clips fit over them?

AdamHeard 04-03-2015 18:24

Re: Team 254 Presents: Deadlift
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Thad House (Post 1453627)
Why the poverty wheels, and what looks like poverty shafts for the drive?

FTFY

aphelps231 04-03-2015 18:29

Re: Team 254 Presents: Deadlift
 
I love the height... "Hella tall." What's that equate to in standard inch measurements?

Gigakaiser 04-03-2015 18:29

Re: Team 254 Presents: Deadlift
 
I like the new white/gold color scheme.

Michael Corsetto 04-03-2015 18:31

Re: Team 254 Presents: Deadlift
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gigakaiser (Post 1453635)
I like the new white/gold color scheme.

Well played.

depth_Finder 04-03-2015 18:31

Re: Team 254 Presents: Deadlift
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecanum Wheel (Post 1453618)
Hey Audrey. Just for future reference, it's spelled mecanum. No worries, it's an easy mistake to make. Good luck this season!

You are a legend.

PayneTrain 04-03-2015 18:34

Re: Team 254 Presents: Deadlift
 
I know this is a nice robot, but will Noodle Jesus accept it?

Cory 04-03-2015 18:36

Re: Team 254 Presents: Deadlift
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by aphelps231 (Post 1453634)
I love the height... "Hella tall." What's that equate to in standard inch measurements?

1x10^27 inches, of course

Mike Marandola 04-03-2015 18:36

Re: Team 254 Presents: Deadlift
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew Lawrence (Post 1453609)
I'd be willing to bet that this isn't even their final form. A very elegant solution, as always. Deadlift will go far this weekend.

Maybe that could that explain this rogue tubing?

hunterteam3476 04-03-2015 18:49

Re: Team 254 Presents: Deadlift
 
Another good looking robot. Can't wait to see it in action this week!

depth_Finder 04-03-2015 18:54

Re: Team 254 Presents: Deadlift
 
I think this will clear a few things up...

(Creds to our marketing lead)

Pauline Tasci 04-03-2015 18:55

Re: Team 254 Presents: Deadlift
 
Amazing robot. Looks so sturdy, betting totes won't fall out of that robot easily.

connor.worley 04-03-2015 18:56

Re: Team 254 Presents: Deadlift
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by depth_Finder (Post 1453654)
I think this will clear a few things up...

(Creds to our marketing lead)

How did we not think of the Mista Ej roomba tether?

IanW 04-03-2015 19:03

Re: Team 254 Presents: Deadlift
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Thad House (Post 1453627)
Why the off the shelf wheels, and what looks like thunderhex for the drive?

They probably just haven't machined them yet.

Delphileaks 04-03-2015 19:05

Re: Team 254 Presents: Deadlift
 
#thetruthneverdies

http://imgur.com/lHAiEkl

asid61 04-03-2015 19:11

Re: Team 254 Presents: Deadlift
 
How does the drive work? Is it belted, chained, or "other"?

Nick Mercadante 04-03-2015 19:13

Re: Team 254 Presents: Deadlift
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by connor.worley (Post 1453657)
How did we not think of the Mista Ej roomba tether?

I've never been more mad at myself for not thinking of that.

themccannman 04-03-2015 19:19

Re: Team 254 Presents: Deadlift
 
Roll up your sleeves, I know that's not your full hand :P

See you guys in 2 days, it's gonna be fun.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gigakaiser (Post 1453635)
I like the new white/gold color scheme.

I'm a fan of robonauts switching to blue and black this year too.

Karthik 04-03-2015 19:21

Re: Team 254 Presents: Deadlift
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Thad House (Post 1453627)
Why the off the shelf wheels, and what looks like thunderhex for the drive?

I'm assuming they didn't feel like photoshopping wheels in this year. ;)

asid61 04-03-2015 19:23

Re: Team 254 Presents: Deadlift
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Thad House (Post 1453627)
Why the off the shelf wheels, and what looks like thunderhex for the drive?

Maybe because colsons get better grip on the HDPE than they could get with other tread?

orangemoore 04-03-2015 19:24

Re: Team 254 Presents: Deadlift
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Thad House (Post 1453627)
Why the off the shelf wheels, and what looks like thunderhex for the drive?

They had enough to engineer this year? Standard wheels will work fine for this year.

Jacob Bendicksen 04-03-2015 19:25

Re: Team 254 Presents: Deadlift
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by asid61 (Post 1453673)
Maybe because colsons get better grip on the HDPE than they could get with other tread?

Pretty sure this thing would bottom out driving over the step with the clearance shown. Then again, it seems like there are a lot of things that still aren't being shown, so I'd guess that these aren't the actual wheels.

Awesome job guys - looks like another great season for 254.

lcoreyl 04-03-2015 19:27

Re: Team 254 Presents: Deadlift
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cory (Post 1453642)

which is 254 x 10^23 meters... :ahh:

Cash4587 04-03-2015 19:34

Re: Team 254 Presents: Deadlift
 
By the looks of it, they don't need to drive over the scoring platform that often. I would assume only on rare occasion they will drive over it judging it upon how tall their intake is but I don't know.

Ozuru 04-03-2015 19:37

Re: Team 254 Presents: Deadlift
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by connor.worley (Post 1453657)
How did we not think of the Mista Ej roomba tether?

Can someone explain this? Who is the nefarious Ej? I've seen him everywhere and seen pictures of his face but never understood it.

Ginger Power 04-03-2015 19:51

Re: Team 254 Presents: Deadlift
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ozuru (Post 1453682)
Can someone explain this? Who is the nefarious Ej? I've seen him everywhere and seen pictures of his face but never understood it.

Not on the team (obviously) but from talking with Nick Hammes, a mentor for the Poofs, EJ was a student on the original 254 team. He is now a mentor for the team and is the only person still on the team who was there at the beginning.

xXhunter47Xx 04-03-2015 20:42

Re: Team 254 Presents: Deadlift
 
There's something sinister (in a good way) hiding behind that blue exterior, I can smell it. There's no way the robot is that simple (in terms of what it does).
Or maybe it is and I'm reading into it too much.
Also nice recycling of 2014's intake (hue, it's recycle rush so you gotta recycle right?)

bEdhEd 04-03-2015 21:27

Re: Team 254 Presents: Deadlift
 
One of my initial ideas that I presented to my team was so similar to this robot, and other ones like it. Had to turn it down for simplicity's sake this season, though. Such a good looking work of art as always.

Rypsnort 04-03-2015 21:51

Re: Team 254 Presents: Deadlift
 
My thought is that we are only seeing part of this bot. It looks too light and the intake rollers are higher up than I would expect. If this is the entire robot I can't wait to see how it works. You know it is going to be good. Good work 254 you never cease to amaze.

waialua359 04-03-2015 21:54

Re: Team 254 Presents: Deadlift
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ginger Power (Post 1453689)
Not on the team (obviously) but from talking with Nick Hammes, a mentor for the Poofs, EJ was a student on the original 254 team. He is now a mentor for the team and is the only person still on the team who was there at the beginning.

Well actually, the students on the original team were from a different high school.
We still have one of the students gold medal that he signed and gave to us back in 2000.:)
EJ was on the 2001 drive team from the current school. I oughta remember since we were their 3rd of 4 robots on the alliance at the California (name I forget) regional event.

-Glenn

wesbass23 04-03-2015 22:01

Re: Team 254 Presents: Deadlift
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Marandola (Post 1453643)

Plus those 8 tanks? Can't all be for the claw...

Leav 05-03-2015 00:50

Re: Team 254 Presents: Deadlift
 
http://i.imgur.com/CLjDR6k.jpg

Discuss.

Andrew Lawrence 05-03-2015 00:53

Re: Team 254 Presents: Deadlift
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Leav (Post 1453845)

Everything on the robot is photoshopped except the wheels.

AdamHeard 05-03-2015 00:55

Re: Team 254 Presents: Deadlift
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Leav (Post 1453845)

I believe you have located their bolts.

RoboChair 05-03-2015 01:20

Re: Team 254 Presents: Deadlift
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Leav (Post 1453845)

Actually, I don't think that is a photoshop artifact. I think it is just an illusion of the geometry, and the spacer under the polycarb makes the viewing angle insufficient to see the drivetrain tube.

sanddrag 05-03-2015 01:24

Re: Team 254 Presents: Deadlift
 
I'm curious where you got the belts for the elevator. I had trouble finding belts that long.

R.C. 05-03-2015 01:27

Re: Team 254 Presents: Deadlift
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sanddrag (Post 1453851)
I'm curious where you got the belts for the elevator. I had trouble finding belts that long.

Open ended GT2 or GT3 belts from sdp sI most likely.

cadandcookies 05-03-2015 01:28

Re: Team 254 Presents: Deadlift
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sanddrag (Post 1453851)
I'm curious where you got the belts for the elevator. I had trouble finding belts that long.

Not sure where they got them, but I know SDP-SI will quote you custom belt lengths (and pulley sizes) if you ask. Pulleys typically get a tooling charge tacked on if I remember correctly though.

saikiranra 05-03-2015 01:31

Re: Team 254 Presents: Deadlift
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Marandola (Post 1453643)

Quote:

Originally Posted by wesbass23 (Post 1453753)
Plus those 8 tanks? Can't all be for the claw...

It's weird, because the entire length of tubing is very awkward and out of place, especially for 254. Its routed on the outside of the box tube, while we can clearly see more tube on the inside, it flows over the electronics, most the zipties connecting the 2 strands together are not cut at the tips, there is an out of place zip-tie on the middle-right cross member, and all the right intake plumbing is not facing the camera.

Considering all of that, I would say it isn't a stray tube for a magic bin grabber, like Andrew may or may not have been implying. It looks like the intake was probably taken off for maintenance reasons and quickly put on for the purpose of a photo shoot, along with all the pneumatic plumbing.



All that being said, it looks like another world championship winner, and I can't wait to see it work!

The other Gabe 05-03-2015 01:51

Re: Team 254 Presents: Deadlift
 
"Size Hella Tall"

Looks great, reminds me of 3663's robot (only bluer and with an claw at the top)

fr05ty27355 05-03-2015 02:05

Re: Team 254 Presents: Deadlift
 

Is it just me, or does it look like something is missing here? It just seems weird that they would have mounting holes here and the intake mount hangs over the front of the drive frame.

pwnageNick 05-03-2015 05:00

Re: Team 254 Presents: Deadlift
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fr05ty27355
Is it just me, or does it look like something is missing here? It just seems weird that they would have mounting holes here and the intake mount hangs over the front of the drive frame.

Perhaps extending the tubing all the way out under the intake pivot mount would have caused clearance issues with the scoring platform. They might have also needed better access to the pivot mount for the intake there compared to if that tube was there under it in the way.

jnicho15 05-03-2015 08:45

Re: Team 254 Presents: Deadlift
 
I wonder if those ingestor wheels are soft like the McMaster drive rollers, or just rubber sheet?

JesseK 05-03-2015 08:46

Re: Team 254 Presents: Deadlift
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by R.C. (Post 1453852)
Open ended GT2 or GT3 belts from sdp sI most likely.

Ah, this explains why their open ended belts were so out of stock. Took me three hours of clicking to find two closed belts long enough to do what we needed, ha.

thinker&planner 05-03-2015 10:55

Re: Team 254 Presents: Deadlift
 
jnicho15, I believe that their intake rollers are something like this from McMaster. I remember something about this stuff on their last year's robot.
You can use compressed air to slip it on the roller, and you don't even have to rivet/glue it, it simply sticks in place.

fr05ty27355 05-03-2015 15:08

Re: Team 254 Presents: Deadlift
 
It would also appear as though their RC grabber can extend outwards. Step can grabber?

EDIT: Never mind, I think that's just for picking up RC that have been tipped over (a slick addition nonetheless).

Cash4587 05-03-2015 15:38

Re: Team 254 Presents: Deadlift
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thinker&planner (Post 1453930)
jnicho15, I believe that their intake rollers are something like this from McMaster. I remember something about this stuff on their last year's robot.
You can use compressed air to slip it on the roller, and you don't even have to rivet/glue it, it simply sticks in place.

I am pretty sure what they are using is actually in fact just large surgical tubing slipped on using alcohol. At least I think..

Mike Marandola 05-03-2015 16:54

Re: Team 254 Presents: Deadlift
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cash4587 (Post 1454078)
I am pretty sure what they are using is actually in fact just large surgical tubing slipped on using alcohol. At least I think..

Here is some info about their rollers last year.

themccannman 05-03-2015 17:12

Re: Team 254 Presents: Deadlift
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cash4587 (Post 1454078)
I am pretty sure what they are using is actually in fact just large surgical tubing slipped on using alcohol. At least I think..

It's not surgical tubing, it's polyurethane sheet, we've used the same stuff.

AdamHeard 05-03-2015 17:18

Re: Team 254 Presents: Deadlift
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by themccannman (Post 1454114)
It's not surgical tubing, it's polyurethane sheet, we've used the same stuff.

2014 was surgical tubing, all other years was a polyurethane tube.

Gweiss96 05-03-2015 18:29

Re: Team 254 Presents: Deadlift
 
What did the smaller gray box on the picture on Facebook cover?

Jared Russell 05-03-2015 18:34

Re: Team 254 Presents: Deadlift
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gweiss96 (Post 1454154)
What did the smaller gray box on the picture on Facebook cover?

An even smaller gray box.

Bryce2471 05-03-2015 18:36

Re: Team 254 Presents: Deadlift
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jared Russell (Post 1454156)
An even smaller gray box.

Flawless.

Gweiss96 05-03-2015 19:21

Re: Team 254 Presents: Deadlift
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jared Russell (Post 1454156)
An even smaller gray box.

So a tote?
Thanks

jdf001 06-03-2015 19:55

Re: Team 254 Presents: Deadlift
 
Does anybody have the conversion from hellas to candle-seconds?

Chinske4296 06-03-2015 20:13

Team 254 Presents: Deadlift
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jdf001 (Post 1454586)
Does anybody have the conversion from hellas to candle-seconds?


I'm assuming that you are referencing size of their robot. Now are we talking a standard candle? If so, we know that a standardized candle burns at 0.48 inches every hour. Now we would need to know the hella to inches conversion. I would assume hella big would be 1 hella. Now if we assume 254 used all the allotted space they would be 6'6". 6'6" is equivalent to 78 inches. So that would be 162.5 candle hours. Since you asked for candle seconds I have also included those: 254s robot is 585,000 candle seconds tall. Therefore hella big equates to roughly 162.5 candle hours or 585,000 candle seconds, assuming they maxed their height.

VPpanther 08-03-2015 11:47

Re: Team 254 Presents: Deadlift
 
are there any videos of 254 in action?

iVanDuzer 08-03-2015 14:19

Re: Team 254 Presents: Deadlift
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by VPpanther (Post 1455016)
are there any videos of 254 in action?

The Central Valley Regional is on right now. Watch it here.

aphelps231 08-03-2015 23:13

Re: Team 254 Presents: Deadlift
 
How many pounds does the bot weigh?

Torrance 09-03-2015 02:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by aphelps231 (Post 1455292)
How many pounds does the bot weigh?


When we weighed in at CVR the robot weighed about 117 pounds.

deeek 06-04-2015 18:12

Re: Team 254 Presents: Deadlift
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Torrance (Post 1455336)
When we weighed in at CVR the robot weighed about 117 pounds.

So, I see that 254 has made some awesome mods to their robot (ramp, RC grabbers, tote wheels). Do you guys have any updated photos or info for your robot?


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