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Kevin Ray 08-03-2015 20:42

Re: Which 3 robots would form the most overpowered alliance?
 
There's also the issue of a 4-tote tying up with a 2-tote in a "pull-off". As it stands now, I haven't seen a 4-tote faster than the fastest 2-tote. The advantage in a tie would most likely go to the 2-tote for obvious reasons.

Caleb Sykes 08-03-2015 20:58

Re: Which 3 robots would form the most overpowered alliance?
 
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Originally Posted by Kevin Ray (Post 1455211)
4-tote

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Originally Posted by Kevin Ray (Post 1455211)
2-tote

By "tote," do you mean "Recycling Container?"

themccannman 09-03-2015 02:34

Re: Which 3 robots would form the most overpowered alliance?
 
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Originally Posted by Caleb Sykes (Post 1455223)
By "tote," do you mean "Recycling Container?"

Didn't you know? The step totes are way more valuable than the RCs, the RCs give you negative points actually :ahh:

Caleb Sykes 09-03-2015 03:27

Re: Which 3 robots would form the most overpowered alliance?
 
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Originally Posted by themccannman (Post 1455342)
Didn't you know? The step totes are way more valuable than the RCs, the RCs give you negative points actually :ahh:

I've actually seen alliances grab 4 RCs from the step, and then only use 1 of their 7 total. The remaining ones clutter up the field, causing robots to spend more time maneuvering and less time scoring. In that context, I would say that getting the RCs from the step gave that alliance negative points.

PayneTrain 09-03-2015 03:41

Re: Which 3 robots would form the most overpowered alliance?
 
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Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 1455146)
That's giving up an entire stack of totes and can, at least, compared to 148's best performances. If 148 sticks to the left edge of the field, the center and right sides of the field can be open for 1114 and 118 to play in. 148 doesn't need to move too much other than to their loader, can holder, and the goal, so I feel they can keep their tether manageable.

They have a pretty beastly tether as well, IIRC. If they are in a situation where it could be advantageous to lob a chunk of it off, they could. They can theoretically operate in the boundary of #1 wall side to about 7 feet over, up to the far third of the auto zone. They could just become a very easy to run 126 point teleop factory. That leaves the landfill to 118 and the HP ramp to 1114. I also assume 148 and 1114 could figure out how to tether the 1114 ramp or any other passive ramp to 148 and make weight and TC for the sake of going OP.

MaGiC_PiKaChU 10-03-2015 17:57

Re: Which 3 robots would form the most overpowered alliance?
 
1114 - 1114 - 1114 would make the best alliance in my opinion

CaityDawh 15-03-2015 12:44

Re: Which 3 robots would form the most overpowered alliance?
 
I think any team that can put at least 2 super-stacks with container and noodle from the human player station with time left over, and with few issues. Would be a perfect fit with 1114. Honestly, the third pick for any high seeded alliance is probably not going to be a container grabber. The demand for them is to high. My guess is that at world champs we are going to see a lot of underweight teams being 3rd picks and then being modified by adding a fast container grabber. 118, and 1730 did it at their regionals. This is the year that not just the power-house teams have a good chance at making Einstein, but also the lesser known teams that can do what they can efficiently. Einstein is going to be much different this year than most years before.


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