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Richard Wallace 10-03-2015 14:07

Litter Aces
 
Based on Week 2 data from Ed Law, several teams have racked up impressive litter scores.

48 teams have OPR Litter >10. (five four of these rank in Top 20 for Qual Avg: 1114, 67, 744, 2342, 1876)

4 teams have OPR Litter >20. (2767, 3238, 2342, 5167)

These litterbugs (Litter Aces) are making their impact felt on Recycle Rush.

To emulate: humans practice throwing.

To mitigate: teams add litter plows to robots, drivers practice sweeping. (Is this even worth the teleop time spent? Maybe, in the final seconds without a potential cap.)

Cory Walters 10-03-2015 14:23

Re: Litter Aces
 
I got to give all the credit to my human player. I required him to throw 75 noodles onto the other side of our practice field Wednesday before the competition, by the time he got to 65 he only missed 11 noodles. Also got to give a shout to who I believe was 2959s human player for spearing 2075s robot in the semis. Looking forward to play at St Joe with you and 3620.

Underdog_19 10-03-2015 14:57

Re: Litter Aces
 
3566's human player was a beast this weekend. He was consistently throwing 7-8 pieces of litter into the opponent's field every match.

VeqIR 10-03-2015 15:43

Re: Litter Aces
 
I'd like to give a shoutout to 3238 Cyborg Ferret's human player for putting on a noodle throwing clinic at PNW Glacier Peak this weekend, solidifying their #1 seed. They had an average of 31 litter points per match in quals, which is 13 points higher than the next highest in the PNW (average being ~10 per match).

Here's a good example of how effective a well-trained human player can be in a match:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdcZ...EKJoS&index=84

Matt_Boehm_329 10-03-2015 16:36

Re: Litter Aces
 
I'm waiting for a human player to accidentally noodle the opposing alliance's stack. Has this happened yet?

homerun33ss 10-03-2015 16:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by VeqIR (Post 1456102)
I'd like to give a shoutout to 3238 Cyborg Ferret's human player for putting on a noodle throwing clinic at PNW Glacier Peak this weekend, solidifying their #1 seed. They had an average of 31 litter points per match in quals, which is 13 points higher than the next highest in the PNW (average being ~10 per match).

Here's a good example of how effective a well-trained human player can be in a match:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdcZ...EKJoS&index=84

I'll pass that on to Nico (our human player). It was definitely fun to watch and he has been practicing it a ton prior to the Glacier Peak Competition.

Jacob Bendicksen 10-03-2015 16:45

Re: Litter Aces
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt_Boehm_329 (Post 1456122)
I'm waiting for a human player to accidentally noodle the opposing alliance's stack. Has this happened yet?

Not to my knowledge, but there's a quick shot in 148's reveal video of their human player noodling one of their stacks, which is still pretty impressive.

TDav540 10-03-2015 16:50

Re: Litter Aces
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard Wallace (Post 1456060)
To mitigate: teams add litter plows to robots, drivers practice sweeping. (Is this even worth the teleop time spent? Maybe, in the final seconds without a potential cap.)

I'd imagine that as the competition progresses in the playoffs, sweeping them into the landfill would become increasingly valuable, peaking at a 5-point swing per noodle in the finals.

homerun33ss 10-03-2015 16:57

Re: Litter Aces
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt_Boehm_329 (Post 1456122)
I'm waiting for a human player to accidentally noodle the opposing alliance's stack. Has this happened yet?

I'm not sure that a noodle has the power to knock over a tote stack. However, I have seen a few videos and pictures in which one alliance's pool noodle landed on top of an incomplete stack, on top of which the opposing alliance was still able to place more totes on top of it. Those totes didn't count though since they technically weren't fully supported exclusively by the totes below it.

MaGiC_PiKaChU 10-03-2015 17:19

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our human player scored 36 litter points in a single match at GTRC

I don't think anyone did better :D

The other Gabe 10-03-2015 21:29

Re: Litter Aces
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard Wallace (Post 1456060)

To mitigate: teams add litter plows to robots, drivers practice sweeping. (Is this even worth the teleop time spent? Maybe, in the final seconds without a potential cap.)

in the last few seconds of Playoff matches my team would usually push away some litter, since there wasn't time to start another stack- a good way to gain points while pushing down the score of other alliances... plus it eliminates clutter if one of our allies is trying to make a last minute stack

The other Gabe 10-03-2015 21:31

Re: Litter Aces
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt_Boehm_329 (Post 1456122)
I'm waiting for a human player to accidentally noodle the opposing alliance's stack. Has this happened yet?

I don't know about that, but there have been recorded cases of robots getting their lifts noodled. in fact, FRC 1983's human player did this to us in a Playoff match, incapacitating us for a good 15 seconds as we tried to get the darned thing out of our robot. whether intentional or not (he was probably the best thrower there, so it is possible that his aim was that good, but it's more likely that he got lucky), it was brilliant from a strategy point of view.

jajabinx124 10-03-2015 21:40

Re: Litter Aces
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt_Boehm_329 (Post 1456122)
I'm waiting for a human player to accidentally noodle the opposing alliance's stack. Has this happened yet?

I'm waiting for a human player to throw a noodle and the noodle landing perfectly on the RC on a stack(assuming RC had no noodle before).

pntbll1313 11-03-2015 00:46

Re: Litter Aces
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jajabinx124 (Post 1456256)
I'm waiting for a human player to throw a noodle and the noodle landing perfectly on the RC on a stack(assuming RC had no noodle before).

The RC wasn't scored but this is still pretty cool if you haven't seen it yet
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=134665

Matt_Boehm_329 11-03-2015 09:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pntbll1313 (Post 1456338)
The RC wasn't scored but this is still pretty cool if you haven't seen it yet
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=134665

Hah yeah that's what I was talking about. Now we just need to see it tossed into an opposing alliances stack :D Thanks for the link

M. Mellott 11-03-2015 12:37

Re: Litter Aces
 
The HP from Team 1629 (didn't catch his name) at the Greater Pittsburgh Regional was phenomenal! He was tossing well over 60% into the opposing zone, and I saw several of his throws bounce off the opposing driver station wall. He was definitely a factor in their alliance taking the crown.

IronicDeadBird 11-03-2015 13:41

Re: Litter Aces
 
I'm really surprised people aren't dedicating a robot to sweeping by eliminations you think you could train people on the other side to stop littering.

1629GaCo 11-03-2015 14:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by M. Mellott (Post 1456483)
The HP from Team 1629 (didn't catch his name) at the Greater Pittsburgh Regional was phenomenal! He was tossing well over 60% into the opposing zone, and I saw several of his throws bounce off the opposing driver station wall. He was definitely a factor in their alliance taking the crown.

Hi name is "The Arm"!!! Actually, his name is Dawson and he is a phenomenal thrower and only a freshman!

MechMentor 11-03-2015 15:23

Re: Litter Aces
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cory Walters (Post 1456066)
I got to give all the credit to my human player. I required him to throw 75 noodles onto the other side of our practice field Wednesday before the competition, by the time he got to 65 he only missed 11 noodles. Also got to give a shout to who I believe was 2959s human player for spearing 2075s robot in the semis. Looking forward to play at St Joe with you and 3620.

Cory, We have to give credit where credit is due. Your HP was an inspiration to all noodlers with 371 points in littler!!!!! Once we found out that not only could noodles tip the scales on points but also hinder the opposing alliance robots, it was game on. Kevin our noodler, scored 271 and could stack them up like cord wood so we nick-named him “Rigatoni”.

hardcopi 11-03-2015 15:36

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2959's Noodler ended up starting to target robots during the finals. Have to give credit to 3620 at on point it looked like they had all our noodles dumped on top of them but they kept on trucking.

Ccody_ 11-03-2015 16:04

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I know that our human player on team 3238 scored several 40 point games. Our highest noodle score is 42 points in one match when one of our teams used a noodle in their stack for a stack.


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