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SousVide 18-03-2015 23:16

Best/Favorite Ramp Design
 
With all of the talk about Cheesecakes and Cheesecaking - what is your most favorite Ramp Design so far - Static or otherwise ? I am talking about the "Robots" that are made purely to interface with the Chute at the Human Player Station on the playing field side to control the totes as they are coming out from the chute.

SousVide 19-03-2015 00:54

Re: Best/Favorite Ramp Design
 
My favorite so far - besides Robin the stacker - is the one that Team #1815 deployed at the Greater Toronto Regional. It worked great and no-fuss no-muss.

Ozuru 19-03-2015 08:35

Re: Best/Favorite Ramp Design
 
Please include a picture if possible.

I haven't seen any ramps in play yet but there was a certain team (I can't remember the number) from Israel that had a conveyor-belt type of ramp that seemed to work very well.

CTbiker105 19-03-2015 08:47

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Originally Posted by Ozuru (Post 1459734)
Please include a picture if possible.

I haven't seen any ramps in play yet but there was a certain team (I can't remember the number) from Israel that had a conveyor-belt type of ramp that seemed to work very well.

You're probably thinking of 1657, Hamosad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjfZ-jpPCWA

Ozuru 19-03-2015 09:53

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Originally Posted by CTbiker105 (Post 1459738)
You're probably thinking of 1657, Hamosad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjfZ-jpPCWA

Yeah, that's the team I was thinking of. Thanks for the link.

sviera88 19-03-2015 15:47

Re: Best/Favorite Ramp Design
 
Going a bit off of best ramp design. What materials do you think make the best tether? I have seen everything from airplane cable to fishing line.

I think my personal favorite has to be whatever 1023 used in Woodhaven. It seems to lay pretty flat, and it is REALLY visible.

Sperkowsky 19-03-2015 16:16

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Originally Posted by sviera88 (Post 1459843)
Going a bit off of best ramp design. What materials do you think make the best tether? I have seen everything from airplane cable to fishing line.

I think my personal favorite has to be whatever 1023 used in Woodhaven. It seems to lay pretty flat, and it is REALLY visible.

There's a huge thread I made on ramps check it out for that.

SousVide 19-03-2015 18:29

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Originally Posted by Sperkowsky (Post 1459851)
There's a huge thread I made on ramps check it out for that.

Is it "#teamtether club " ?
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=135520

IronicDeadBird 19-03-2015 18:31

Re: Best/Favorite Ramp Design
 
Anybody seen a team just have what would basically be two robins?

lcoreyl 19-03-2015 18:48

Re: Best/Favorite Ramp Design
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CTbiker105 (Post 1459738)
You're probably thinking of 1657, Hamosad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjfZ-jpPCWA

This is probably my favorite robot idea this year. It looks like they only got this one chance to compete?? Does anyone have video of them in action?


If there was a reset, I'd be willing to bet many elite teams would iterate on stretchy and fetchy. Imagine if the main part of the bot (lifty?) could lift with the speed of 1114 :ahh:

I would imagine a lot of teams could also fit a stretchy into their witholding allowance. The teams that can make good stacks but struggle with moving them around could just build them all in place...

Poseidon5817 19-03-2015 19:11

Re: Best/Favorite Ramp Design
 
I personally like 1671's ramp design. But I may be slightly biased.:D

smart1 19-03-2015 20:44

Re: Best/Favorite Ramp Design
 
What about stairs?;) I saw Simbotics and Op using an upsidedown tote turned sideways against the wall as step for the tote chute. Maybe not as smooth as a real ramp but it works and it doesn't require a tether. I would imagine they could shove it to the step and set a 5 stack on it in the last second.

Sperkowsky 19-03-2015 21:12

Re: Best/Favorite Ramp Design
 
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Originally Posted by smart1 (Post 1459906)
What about stairs?;) I saw Simbotics and Op using an upsidedown tote turned sideways against the wall as step for the tote chute. Maybe not as smooth as a real ramp but it works and it doesn't require a tether. I would imagine they could shove it to the step and set a 5 stack on it in the last second.

just wondering why dont they need a tether

robochick1319 19-03-2015 21:15

Re: Best/Favorite Ramp Design
 
So can we make #teamramp a club? :)

smart1 19-03-2015 21:26

Re: Best/Favorite Ramp Design
 
Because it's just a regular tote from the actual field. Very ingenious.

EricH 19-03-2015 21:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sperkowsky (Post 1459911)
just wondering why dont they need a tether

696 did something similar with a yellow tote.

The reason none of those three need a tether is because they don't bring the tote onto the field. It's already there, they just repurpose it for use as a tote ramp.

Gregor 19-03-2015 22:04

Re: Best/Favorite Ramp Design
 
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Originally Posted by Sperkowsky (Post 1459911)
just wondering why dont they need a tether

And they can only use the big ramps they bring on practice day. At their prior events they've tethered these ramps to partners for official matches.

It's just like 3 teams running 2 ball autos in practice matches.

Sperkowsky 19-03-2015 23:14

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Originally Posted by smart1 (Post 1459916)
Because it's just a regular tote from the actual field. Very ingenious.

so they have to move it over there mid match or can it be leagly placed there pre match

Gregor 19-03-2015 23:18

Re: Best/Favorite Ramp Design
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sperkowsky (Post 1459957)
so they have to move it over there mid match or can it be leagly placed there pre match

I think you know the answer to that.

Sperkowsky 19-03-2015 23:26

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Originally Posted by Gregor (Post 1459960)
I think you know the answer to that.

dont be rude, based on that response Im guessing they move it but $@#$@#$@#$@# that was snarky

EricH 19-03-2015 23:42

Re: Best/Favorite Ramp Design
 
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Originally Posted by Sperkowsky (Post 1459962)
dont be rude, based on that response Im guessing they move it but $@#$@#$@#$@# that was snarky

You were implying that you hadn't read the manual. I realize that not everybody memorizes it every year--I don't, I go for the general gist and where to find stuff quickly, and on the field I use a cheat sheet--but after watching 3 weeks of regionals and spending 6 weeks building the robot, something along the lines of "how do you not know that" (even without the previously-mentioned manual reading) might actually be appropriate. "Ask a stupid question..." and all that. When a drive team member asked me if yellow totes counted on the scoring platforms (during a practice day), and then admitted to not having read the manual...Well, I did answer the question, but I also gave him one of those looks that is supposed to mean "I can't believe my ears" or something along those lines.



To actually answer the question: If they place it there pre-match, it gets moved back to wherever it came from before the match starts. So they have to grab it mid-match.

Sperkowsky 20-03-2015 10:39

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Originally Posted by EricH (Post 1459966)
You were implying that you hadn't read the manual. I realize that not everybody memorizes it every year--I don't, I go for the general gist and where to find stuff quickly, and on the field I use a cheat sheet--but after watching 3 weeks of regionals and spending 6 weeks building the robot, something along the lines of "how do you not know that" (even without the previously-mentioned manual reading) might actually be appropriate. "Ask a stupid question..." and all that. When a drive team member asked me if yellow totes counted on the scoring platforms (during a practice day), and then admitted to not having read the manual...Well, I did answer the question, but I also gave him one of those looks that is supposed to mean "I can't believe my ears" or something along those lines.



To actually answer the question: If they place it there pre-match, it gets moved back to wherever it came from before the match starts. So they have to grab it mid-match.

I've read the manual quite a few times but I was wondering

sodizzle 20-03-2015 11:15

Re: Best/Favorite Ramp Design
 
Obligatory "My ramp is my favorite!" comment.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sviera88 (Post 1459843)
Going a bit off of best ramp design. What materials do you think make the best tether? I have seen everything from airplane cable to fishing line.

I think my personal favorite has to be whatever 1023 used in Woodhaven. It seems to lay pretty flat, and it is REALLY visible.

I believe we just used some rope a mentor had laying around. I think it's just white nylon rope. He used it on his boat or something.

The_ShamWOW88 20-03-2015 11:36

Re: Best/Favorite Ramp Design
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sperkowsky (Post 1459962)
dont be rude, based on that response Im guessing they move it but $@#$@#$@#$@# that was snarky

Because...the internet....





and cheesecake/corndogs/pizza

16flippinb 21-03-2015 16:26

Re: Best/Favorite Ramp Design
 
We see team 314: The megatron Oracles aka BIGMO, using a ramp to feed from the chute, and obviously its working

triumph69 21-03-2015 21:55

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Originally Posted by 16flippinb (Post 1460356)
We see team 314: The megatron Oracles aka BIGMO, using a ramp to feed from the chute, and obviously its working

Yeah, well it saved us a little bit of time.... Though the biggest improvement was our can holder up top....

tr6scott 22-03-2015 12:13

Re: Best/Favorite Ramp Design
 
We went with a ramp this week, and I don't think it speed us up to significantly, but it eliminated a bunch of failure points we had while stacking from the chute on top of tote. Our design did not have any features to control the second tote, so we were at the mercy of our awesome human player to get the speed and location right to set on top of the tote on the floor.

He was very good at this task, but not 100%. When it messed up, it was ugly, and we put up scores of 14, 40, and a semifinal 48 which all most killed us. . .
Result at Waterford, two blue banners.

This week at West Michigan, we added the ramp.
Lowest score of the day was a 65, then 80 and 85.
Result West Michigan, one blue banner.

So for us, the result was not a huge speed increase, but eliminating some failure points, and making us more consistent.

Team3844 06-04-2015 08:48

Re: Best/Favorite Ramp Design
 
SPIRAL RAMP for Tote Delivery
watch here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kS2DHfNJ6_U

We built a ramp that carried the totes all the way to the scoring platform after we had bagged and tagged. It didn't fit within our withholding allowance so we had to fabricate it at our regional ( Smoky Mountain FRC Regional). During practice the officials had us move our battery inside our frame perimeter which threw 14 lbs of our ballast forward. It was a legitimate safety concern, but it crippled us on carrying a load. we realized to late that we could have built a carbon fiber box around our battery and salvaged using the spiral ramp.

We weren't designed to use this ramp since it was an after thought. I hope someone with a slide, mecnum or swerve drive can pick it up and use it at championships. I can send the CAD work and material list if needed.


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