Human Player Feats
 

For all of you Human Players out there what are your best feat in this years game.

For the record this happened at the Australian Regional last week.

I broke:

10 Chute Door Handles,
2 Chute Doors (the Doors themselves)
1 Whole Human Feeder Station wall.

I can feed 6 totes through the Competition Field Human Player Feeder Station in 10.5 Seconds

Post your record feats this year.

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Video proof? Any kind of warning given about breaking the field?

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our human player allegedly (I wasn't at the competition that day) accidentally knocked over an opponents stacks with a noodle. I also witnessed a noodle fly into the air and then fall straight down into a recycling can.

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You do know that totes are supposed to go through the chute right? Not humans?:ahh:

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I heard from my team (I wasn't at the event) that the human player on our playoff alliance was hitting the other alliance wall when he threw the noodles.... I think that's pretty impressive

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Wasn't our team, but at Los Angeles a HP launched a litter into an opposing robot. That robot was unable to dislodge the litter for almost 30 seconds, thereby not able to lift totes or score!

Who said there's no defense in this game?!

At the NYC regional I saw an hp throw a noodle into a stacked rc twice.

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Our 'HP' scored a tote by himself.

Did he throw it over the wall onto the platform :)

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How??

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This also happened to 1114 at GTR Central, during Finals 2. As a result of a litter being thrown at the robot, they dropped their 6-tote stack and one of the totes was lodged in the robot for 5-10 seconds while they were spinning madly to free it. A tense moment!

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At Southfield, the human player from 910 threw a noodle into a recycling container on the step. Sadly, it was never put to use.

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Here's a picture I got of a noodle thrown into a can in the center by a human player... I know it's really grainy, but I had to take a pic quick before the field crew took it away. It was at Granite State

http://i.imgur.com/uPVGutv.jpg?1


edit: I can't figure out how to embed it in this post... but that is the link

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I don't know about humans scoring totes unassisted but I remember posting about this video in 2011 when a human scored a tube from the length of the field (at :30), watch the white tube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOmAViz4tN0

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We have a tethered litter-bot that is driven by our 'HP', since I drove the main robot and the lift is controlled by our co-driver. In one of the matches, there was no litter thrown by either alliance, so our 'HP' decided to score some points by pushing a tote from the landfill onto the scoring platform.

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Happened a couple of times, I think. Are you thinking of the QFs, and said robot later sporting some blue tape on its side?

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The human player for team 3822 at North Carolina ascended to godhood by landing some litter into a can on the step.

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Still a classic.

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Huh. I'm surprised that throwing litter into cans from range is as common as it seems to be.

On Saturday at GTREast last week an HP threw litter into an RC on the step. It too was not put to use.

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The best HP I witnessed this season is from Team 4774.
Check out eliminations at the Australia event.
46 litter points in 1 match!!!!!

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That same HP asked me Friday how many points it was worth. I had to tell him zippo. Ah shucks. I guess he was hoping there had been a rule change in the last 3 weeks.

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Has anyone seen match in which an alliance went 10/10 throwing litter into the opposing side; i.e. 40 points on unprocessed litter alone? I saw one like that yesterday at St. Joseph. Not sure if it was all thrown by the same HP.

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Our HP scored several 40 point rounds yesterday at Bayou. After 7 of 9 rounds, he has scored a total of 249 points. We expect he will be over 300 in two more rounds. He has scored every noodle he has thrown so far.

Jacob is at one with the pool noodle, he is the noodle whisperer ....

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There was one in Southfield in Week 1. I don't remember the teams right now, but the HP on one of the teams was getting most of the litter to the other side regularly. In the 10 for 10 match, the litter was thrown fairly equally by HP's from 2 teams.

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Our HP can consistently throw into the opposing alliance's auto zone and sometimes hits the opposing alliance wall...

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We also have a Jacob. Currently leading the litter scoring at the Rhode Island District Event, he had a 10 for 10 round, and several other matches very close to that.

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I saw that so many times at my regionals as well, at the Granite State event in New Hampshire during week 1. It is so amazing to see.

The player you are referring to is Van from 4557 I believe. He bounced several off the othersides driver station plexi at Waterbury. He has a definite advantage standing at 6'5" tall.

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Yeah I believe I've scored around 650 points total this year during our 2 different regionals. This also includes the points I've scored during the elimination rounds (which they don't normally keep track of). I hope to get over 1000 total points this year, we only have one regional left (and possibly championship). I'm really grateful of everyone's support and appreciation. Human Players Rock!

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How? Just how? For everything in this post. How?

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We're planning on using a Jacob as a human player so this is encouraging.

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Or more succinctly: by making the HP a third driver. This is an option, as there are no real rule distinctions between the HPs and drivers this year (or did I miss something?).

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Seriously. How are you going about breaking this many objects? How haven't the referees deemed it egregious?

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Imagine if the last matches of Einstein were just HPs throwing noodles into half-made stacks to disrupt robots/ stack scoring.

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Considering the trend in scores, I'm not sure that's all that far from the truth...

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The 2168 HP was undoubtedly one of the best I have seen. His consistency in putting up litter points proved impactful on the outcome of many matches.

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Yup they actually put it in the rules that the hp can drive.

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We can create 6 stacks with can and a noodle in about 40 seconds or less. That means that our human players and driver have to be fast and focused. It is really cool to watch.

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Our human player is Jacob. The prototypical HP must be named Jacob. Though, he is not a noodle-throwing machine/god.

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We also have a Jacob. His specialty is that he is really tall and way better at putting litter in RCs from over the glass than anyone else.

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Watching video from the Australian Regional, it appears he is just very enthusiastic when he opens the chute door. He sometimes releases the tote at the top of the chute, and attempts the door before it touches the door, but this is not always the case. You can watch him break a handle off at 2:09:50 in this video https://youtu.be/Hgaex5m52XM?t=2h9m44s . If I were a ref or volunteer, I think I would have to warn him about that, 3132 played in 20 matches, breaking the handle off the door every other match is ridiculous, considering there are plenty of other teams doing the same thing that have never broken one.

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Thanks for finding that. I have a feeling that this wouldn't have flew too well at other districts' events. I thought he might have been slamming the chute door on the tote in an attempt to manipulate it but it appears that he's just being incredibly rough on the door. I'm still questioning the whole "alliance wall" part, though -- OP, what did you do to break an entire alliance's wall?

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http://www.thebluealliance.com/match/2015nhnas_qm30

go to about 1:15 and just watch

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1647's human player is by far the best I have ever seen. He can consistently get all 10 noodles across the field and they always seem to be in the worst possible place for the team on the other side of the step.

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I can vouch for this. :yikes:

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This happened at the Wilsonville, OR tournament twice (during two different matches)! Our robot (753) has no bottom platform so they just zipped forwards & backwards then right out of the litter. The other team was... not so fortunate and was non-functional for the rest of the match.

Our HP is a javelin thrower and our litter score was quite high when he was allowed to throw.

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Our team was the victim of #Buttongate

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...hreadid=136005

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I think this qualifies:

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2530 HP is 6'6". He actually throws the noodle with a slight downward trajectory. In the 216 point game (semis 2), our alliance partners, 2826, looked at the scoreboard and asked, "How did we score that much?" I pointed out the 40 litter points.

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That...that's insane.

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The handles at Sydney were apparently not the correct ones as they are different in Hawaii. The ones in Sydney were Balsa wood, with 15 mm deep wood screws. 359 broke handles as well but are yet to do so in Hawaii.

As for the 10.5 seconds of totes I will hopefully post a video later.

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We were reminded multiple times however that is within the terms of use. Jerry Budd (from Andy Mark), was fine with it as it was a field fault. It was not egregious nor strategic. In Hawaii as well the Head Referee said that it was fine as well as it is within the use of the door.

In my opinion it is a poorly designed field element, as have a hard metal stop, stop something traveling at speed is not the wisest.

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This makes a little bit more sense. After spending a weekend at a regional, I found it hard to believe that they could be broken without doing something unreasonable. The fact they were made of balsa wood makes a huge difference.

It appears to me that this was a special case based on the strange choice of materials for the field in Austrailia. I imagine if the field was constructed to spec, and you were still breaking handles then officials would have a different take.

Balsa wood handles can certainly break under what most would consider reasonable force. That is not the case with the construction we saw in VA, and I imagine the other posters in this thread saw. Repeated damage to the field is specifically called out in the rules, while the rules address how it is handles when the damage is caused by a robot, I would not see any issue with the rule being applied to the entire team.

There is nothing wrong with a hard stop for something travelling at speed, Damage can be prevented through a combination of material selection, and smart use. Material selection was clearly an issue in Australia, use can and should be coached, no need to try to accelerate the door through the hard stop.

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52 litter points in a match today. I repeat 52! * mind blown

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In match 12 of the Colorado regional I got to watch fieldside as a blue alliance human player threw a pool noodle across the entire field and landed it on the red drivers. Needless to say those drivers were quite confused, and I was quite impressed.

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That is actually incredible.
I wonder what kind of steroids he's on. Whatever they are, I want some :D *
*Neither I nor team 1257 support the use of steroids. No steroids were used in the making of this post. You must be 18 years old or older to give me steroids. Batteries not included. Mileage may vary. Copyright (c) 2015 AlephZer0. All rights reserved.

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I don't think it was steroids. Midichlorians, perhaps.

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Teams at the Center Line district started to call 818's human player 'Noodle Jesus' because of his accuracy and how far he could throw.

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At Rhode island, 2168's human player was incredible. Throwing 10/10 noodles in many matches, they had the #1 litter score by far.

Our human player, inspired by 2168's awesomeness, has improved a lot for Hartford, and we now have the highest litter score.

He also has a nice technique for throwing noodles into completed stacks that are on the scoring platform.

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Hmmmmmm... could the noodle agreement be back? A blue noodle behind the red alliance wall.. I don't think the GDC planned for this one.

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I heard of a noodle land in a recycle bin on the step. I saw at the buckeye regional, a noodle hit the projector that was probably 40 feet in the air. I personally can feed all 30 human player totes in the 2 minute 15 second teleop. although I never had a chance to do it in a match, only in the shop, We had a match in which we gave another team 6 totes and I had 30 seconds remaining after my 24 totes. Due to the design of our robot, we didn't have driver try-outs, we had human player try-outs. you can see why in these 2 matches. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2y2KlVI9QOQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fb3_xumiBRA

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Is that... a net???

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At Upper Darby, an HP landed a noodle on top of a scored 6-stack Can. Of course, the noodle was Red and the stack was Blue, but it was still pretty incredible.

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Yes, a cheesecake net from team 179, Children of the Swamp, for their alliance partner 5469, Flare. here's a picture of it during setup. They only deployed it during Semifinals 2 against us (did not use it in SF3 or SF5).

I suspect it was because, as LandonH said:
As you can see from the still, this noodle cleared the net. The whole video is here. That still was from about 1:03. There's another noodle that clears it even higher about 1:49.

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Still counts if there isn't another noodle on there.

Actually, exact same situation happened in Ventura. Blue had a stack--I forget whether it was 5 or 6 high--with a noodle. Red scored a landing on the can.

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At North Star today, we had a noodle sail across the field, over the opposite alliance station wall, and drop down right between an opposing drivers arms as he was holding the controls. I really never expected noodles to go that far!. I'm not sure which team did it, but it was impressive!

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I don't know how this happened, but I saw a noodle go into the stands and hit someone in the head. It was rather hilarious.

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Not quite true: there's actually nothing in the rules that tells you which one to score as Can processed. (There was in fact a blue litter there.) We ended up scoring both: Red as unprocessed and Blue as Can, but from a rules perspective Red as Can and Blue as nothing is just as valid. I'm waiting for Red to throw one on a scored Blue Can and then Blue to throw one there. That'll be fun. :)

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I was under the impression that the intent was for a RED banded LITTER on the BLUE side of the field, it scores 4 points for RED if unprocessed, 1 point for BLUE if in the BLUE LANDFILL and 6 points for BLUE if in or on a RECYCLING CONTAINER scored atop TOTES on a BLUE SCORING PLATFORM.

Thus, I would think that a RED HUMAN PLAYER throwing a LITTER and having it land atop a SCORED RECYCLING CONTAINER on the BLUE side of the field would score 6 points for BLUE with that action.

Further, I would think that if there were already a noodle there, it ought not to score 6 points (per the one-noodle-per-RC rule), but I would argue its not unprocessed either so it shouldn't score 4 points for the opposing alliance.

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True. (Additions: if not otherwise scored; fully within the landfill; fully supported by scored Can and one scored per Can.) And this is not just intent, this is the manual verbatim.

Not as written.
"A maximum of one (1) LITTER will be scored per RECYCLING CONTAINER."
"ALLIANCES earn an UNPROCESSED LITTER Bonus for each LITTER that is fully contained by the opposite side of the FIELD, marked in their ALLIANCE’S color, and not scored in the LANDFILL ZONE or scored in a RECYCLING CONTAINER."

As written, there is no way to "excuse" an Red litter fully contained by Blue side that is neither scored in the Can nor scored in the Landfill. There is no provision by which you can half-score a litter such that it's scored per Paragraph 3 (Blue Can thus not Red Unprocessed) but not scored per Paragraph 1 (Blue Can +6). Unprocessed is anything that's not scored; not anything that would not otherwise be scored.


That said, there's still nothing that legally tells you which one to score.

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Ah. I think I understand the problem.

If I scored the BLUE LITTER in the SCORED RC on a BLUE PLATFORM, then the RED LITTER thrown on it is UNPROCESSED LITTER because it isn't scored (1-LITTER per RC), but IS fully contained by the BLUE side of the field.

However, if I scored the RED LITTER on the SCORED RC on a BLUE PLATFORM, then the BLUE LITTER that was in the RC is BLUE UNPROCESSED LITTER on the BLUE side of the field, worth ZERO points.

I think a Q&A should clarify whether your own alliance's LITTER takes precedence for scoring over the opposing alliance.

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What I was getting at was that if there wasn't another noodle on there, it was worth the 6 points. (The condition was unclear in the first post.)

And, as a matter of fact, the Ventura one was scored in exactly the same way. The blue-side refs consulted with the head ref on that one.

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4143 did this multiple times at Midwest. They had many 40+ litter matches. It's impressive how much influence a good human player can have on scores throughout an entire event. I'd be surprised if we don't see multiple Einstein matches decided solely by litter.

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I was at the Chesapeake Regional this past weekend and a human player managed to throw a piece of litter and it went into one of the recycling cans located on the step.
Also the number one ranked team was a team from Israel and a human player managed to throw a piece of litter into their robot making them unable to operate for the rest of the match.


Also side note my team has made bets with me on weather or not I can knock down a stack with a noodle. :)

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World high litter point score was posted this weekend at the Western Canada Regional by 2013's human player. The score was 463 points.

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I can wow on lookers with my aggressive directional pointing, and my throwing grunts.

I also saw a match at the UNH districts where the HP button got stuck in the stack, which was declared an ineligible stack, since it wasn't fully supported by the bottom tote. This was in the final matches. #Buttongate

Some were also able to get their noodles under opposing robots which messed them up to the point of forcing them to put the stack down to re stabilize.

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Jammed a robot's lifting belt, hit the other alliance wall, no-scoped a ref across the field and the noodle bounced in. Got the points for all three.

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During the Midwest Regional our alliance (1st seed) got to finals against Mars Wars (frc#4143)(3rd seed) and during the finals matches the human played had managed to contribute upwards of 30 points of litter in matches.

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This isn't a record feat, but I almost threw a noodle in the last two seconds of the match. I was lucky enough that my coach yelled at me not to throw it. Lol

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That's great.

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At least you weren't the team whose COACH threw a noodle after the buzzer...

Two fouls on one throw of a noodle is not a feat you want to get. It might have been 4 on 2 (same alliance threw one a couple seconds later) but I didn't see who threw that one.


On the plus side, there was that one HP who got the nickname "Sir Snipes-A-Lot" (his team was the Knights, and he wore a knitted knight helmet). One match, every noodle went for points except for the one that left the field. (Not all made it all the way over... two were in the landfill.) He also had this knack for getting close to opponent robots.

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Wait... did they not read the rules or something?

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I have no idea. Wasn't the first coach I'd caught (as a ref) handling game objects this season--the previous one was at a previous regional's practice day, though--and he'd only moved a tote stack in the station.

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With 316 points, 2067 holds the litter high school out of the 607 teams at champs.
The next highest score (I believe) is by 1114 with 312 litter points.
Here's an image album to honor our human player, Sonny:
http://imgur.com/a/YeKPy

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I'm not sure whose noodle it was, but there was a particularly well-placed noodle on the scoring platform during Quarters8 on Carson. It caused one would-have-been-42 point stack placed a few seconds before the buzzer to fall over into another used-to-be-42 stack. Unfortunately, I can't see the video.

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And people complain that there's no defense in RR! :deadhorse:

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I believe this happened in QF4. I remember hearing a sudden uproar from the Carson division when in queue for our first match.
Although in QF8, the #1 alliance's luck wasn't any better, unfortunately.

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Our human player threw a noodle into our mechanism while we were lifting totes. The noodle might have gotten shredded into little pieces...

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We also got a noodle thrown straight into our lift while stacking. This was the result:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/lv...AQ=w1912-h2342

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Ouch. I'm guessing you only got 2 points for that one?

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The human player Arthur from 3506 YETI posted the highest litter arm throwing in both the NC Regional and Carson Division by consistently hitting the opposite alliance station wall and field. He is not very tall but he had the right technique for throwing the noodles very well. Hitting other robots was also a tactic as he could jam a feeder station with a few well placed throws.

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I would argue that the human player who got two noodles in between the scoring platform near the landfill and the landfill in the match with 254, 973, and 999 helped cause one of the greatest upsets of the year.

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I was kicked/forced off as human player for posting once a human player always a human player on my FB wall before we went to a regional after being the human player 3 years in a row... does that count ?

{BREAKING} robot downed by noodle cruise missile
 

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yeah im from 1165 and i made over 1147 points just by noodles

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Not from this year but the most impressive human player feat is during the finals of gtrw in 2012 2056's human player threw a ball that bounced off of 2056's bumpers and went into the net.
It can be seen at 6:33 of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIQ85frlBzc