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roffutt 25-03-2015 21:42

pic: Team 3824 Robot
 

asid61 25-03-2015 21:44

Re: pic: Team 3824 Robot
 
Tell me more about this 3D printed chassis?

akmess01 25-03-2015 22:01

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The chassis is made on a large scale 3D printer. Instead of an 8"x8" build platform like common printers, this one has a 8'x8' build platform. The extruded beads and layer thicknesses are much larger and thus much larger parts can be made in reasonable time. All the black components on the robot are carbon fiber infused ABS and all the white components are glass fiber infused ABS.

lovelj 25-03-2015 22:03

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Made with BAAM (Big Area Additive Manufacturing). Look up the Strati and printed Cobra. See links below. HVA works in Oak Ridge National Labs Manufacturing Demonstration Facility. Before they printed the Strati, they used HVA as a test case. Their 2014 FRC robot was the first system printed on BAAM. It gave Local Motors, now one of their sponsors, confidence that BAAM (developed by ORNL) could print a car. It takes about 2 hours to print their robot. They built 4 robots this year

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HXvIMRklWiM

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=daioWlkH7ZI

lovelj 25-03-2015 22:11

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On the printed Cobra... It took 6 weeks to go from saying we wanted to print a new car to having it on the road. Wonder where "6 weeks" came from???

Ichlieberoboter 25-03-2015 23:23

Re: pic: Team 3824 Robot
 
That looks perty epic!

asid61 26-03-2015 00:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lovelj (Post 1462274)
On the printed Cobra... It took 6 weeks to go from saying we wanted to print a new car to having it on the road. Wonder where "6 weeks" came from???

I mean, cars are easy in 6 weeks. All they have to do is move; they don't have to shoot frisbees or place things or get driver practice. :P
It's cool how much they accomplished though, with the testing and methods.

That is a really cool 3D printer/ method of making the chassis. What kind of materials can they do? How long did it take to print the robot?

lovelj 26-03-2015 03:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by asid61 (Post 1462318)
I mean, cars are easy in 6 weeks. All they have to do is move; they don't have to shoot frisbees or place things or get driver practice. :P
It's cool how much they accomplished though, with the testing and methods.

That is a really cool 3D printer/ method of making the chassis. What kind of materials can they do? How long did it take to print the robot?

The printer runs at between 10 and 40 lbs per hour. The majority of the robot is printed. It has about 25 lbs worth of printed parts (chassis, forklift, truss...) so under 2 hrs. The material we used is glass and carbon fiber filler ABS. BAAM uses pellets as the feedstock so it's cheap ($2 to $5 per pound). So the total cost for their printed parts on the robot was. $100. We are putting together a much larger printer, 8'x20x6' with a new extruder that runs at 100 lbs/hr. We are going to try to print HVA a new pit for Championship

SoccerTaco 26-03-2015 09:54

Re: pic: Team 3824 Robot
 
Here is a picture of the 3D printed Shelby Cobra, for those that did not watch the video.



Our robot did not get a nice paint job like that :rolleyes:
But it is still inspiring for the kids to look at that car, and their robot, and know they were both produced with the same technology. Some of the people that worked on that car are alumni of Team 3824, which is also quite inspirational to the kids on the team right now.

benherms 26-03-2015 10:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lovelj (Post 1462327)
The printer runs at between 10 and 40 lbs per hour. The majority of the robot is printed. It has about 25 lbs worth of printed parts (chassis, forklift, truss...) so under 2 hrs. The material we used is glass and carbon fiber filler ABS. BAAM uses pellets as the feedstock so it's cheap ($2 to $5 per pound). So the total cost for their printed parts on the robot was. $100. We are putting together a much larger printer, 8'x20x6' with a new extruder that runs at 100 lbs/hr. We are going to try to print HVA a new pit for Championship

So overall costs were below $100??
:eek: Why is everyone not doing this? Does anyone know where I can find a list of materials the company they used is proficient in 3D-Printing?

Very impressive use of additive manufacturing.

Brian Selle 26-03-2015 13:44

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Is the carbon fiber integrated as continuous fibers or as a "chopped" additive?

JohnFogarty 26-03-2015 13:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lovelj (Post 1462327)
The printer runs at between 10 and 40 lbs per hour. The majority of the robot is printed. It has about 25 lbs worth of printed parts (chassis, forklift, truss...) so under 2 hrs. The material we used is glass and carbon fiber filler ABS. BAAM uses pellets as the feedstock so it's cheap ($2 to $5 per pound). So the total cost for their printed parts on the robot was. $100. We are putting together a much larger printer, 8'x20x6' with a new extruder that runs at 100 lbs/hr. We are going to try to print HVA a new pit for Championship

There's a company that either makes or stores those pellets in columbia. I need to get me one of these large scale printers.

Dominick Ferone 05-05-2015 02:05

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where do you get/make of of these large scale printers?

lovelj 05-05-2015 04:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dominick Ferone (Post 1480096)
where do you get/make of of these large scale printers?

The technology is called BAAM (Big Area Additive Manufacturing). It's being commercialized by Cincinnati Inc. A few service bureaus are considering buying them. It's a fast and cheap way to make large composite parts.

Necroterra 05-05-2015 14:24

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I'm guessing that these large scale printers will be well beyond the price range of most (all?) FRC teams. In addition, roHAWKtics has on-site technical support for when things inevitably stop working on this brand new piece of technology. I think it will be a while before a significant number of teams can print large parts of their robot at this quality level.


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