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Karthik 29-03-2015 12:35

Karthik & 1114: Effective FIRST Strategies 2015 - Championship Conference
 
With the Championships in St. Louis rapidly approaching, I'd like to remind teams of the FIRST Robotics Conference which will be taking place. After a one year absence, myself and Team 1114 will once again be delivering our seminar on Effective FIRST Strategies, taking place at 7:00pm on Wednesday evening. This year, FIRST has graciously given us 1.5 hours to present on this topic, which will allow us to cover some topics at a much more in depth level than the past, as well as covering some topics specifc to the 2015 season and Recycle Rush. Also, since this is the last presentation of the evening, I plan on talking on until security throws us out of the building. ;) (Seriously though, this year when security asks us to leave, we have to leave. It's not fair to them!)

For the past 10 years, this presentation has always been given in a conference room that got a little bit crowded. However, thanks to the awesome people at FIRST this year's presentation will be taking place in the Ferrera Theatre, located outside of the pits, which seats up to 1500 people. I don't think we'll even be close to filling the theatre up, but it'd be awesome if you tried. :)

Here are the threads discussing previous editions of this seminar:

www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?t=115843
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...50#post1156250
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...05#post1054705
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=76778
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=84958

Here's video from the 2013 version of this presentation:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Apk_X-maRf8

Here's video of the TEDx talk that was inspired by many of the elements of this presentation:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfC3JdkEVgQ

And the abstract:

Quote:

This presentation focuses on three major areas, Strategic Design, Match Planning/Execution, and Scouting. Rather than spending time on equations and detailed calculations, the Strategic Design gives a more high-level overview of how to design an FRC robot. This portion of the presentation includes sections on such often neglected strategic design areas such as Game Analysis, Chokehold Strategies, Cost-Benefit Analysis, Task Prioritization, and Tradeoffs using a case studies from past games. The Match Planning/Execution section of the presentation discusses effective habits and strategies that will help lead a team to victory. This is a must for those who enjoy the strategic aspects of FIRST. The Scouting section deals with effective techniques to collect information on your partners/opponents, and how to make the most of this data. Advanced statistical metrics analgous to "Sabremetrics" in baseball will also be discussed. The presentation is filled with entertaining and insightful historical FIRST anecdotes from the past 17 years. With the information in this presentation, you can turn your team from a mere competitor to a perennial powerhouse!
This year we'll cover most of the topics in the presentation with a case study of Recycle Rush. I want to talk about the paradigm shift this game represented and how any team with a proper strategic design process would have been prepared for this shift. I'll do a lot of referring to the process 1114 used this year to create Simbot SideSwipe.

If there are any topics you'd like to discussed in detail, or questions you'd like answered, post them here and we'll be happy to address them during the presentation. One of my favourite parts of this presentation is the interactive nature of the whole thing. If you're looking for a straight lecture on all the topics, I suggest you watch the webinars we did this fall as part of the Simbot Seminar Series. The Championship edition varies in that the presentation contains more anecdotes and stories from the past, as well lots of live feedback from the audience.

If you're really into FIRST strategy, looking for personal inspiration, or just want some good FIRST related laughs, this is a presentation you won't want to miss.

For information please visit the following link:
http://www.usfirst.org/roboticsprogr...nd-conferences

I hope to see all of you there!

EricDrost 29-03-2015 12:36

Re: Karthik & 1114: Effective FIRST Strategies 2015 - Championship Conference
 
Wow, glad to see you're getting more space this year. Can't wait!

ttldomination 29-03-2015 13:15

Re: Karthik & 1114: Effective FIRST Strategies 2015 - Championship Conference
 
For those that can't attend, will there be a recording of this presentation?

- Sunny G.

thatprogrammer 29-03-2015 13:17

Re: Karthik & 1114: Effective FIRST Strategies 2015 - Championship Conference
 
Will this be live-streamed or recorded? My team REALLY wants to see this, Sideswipe has blown our minds!

1. How do you guys go around with the absurd amount of iteration you do during build season? How do you figure out flaws in designs when they haven't even been made? (This is in reference to the EWCP show they did)

2. How did you come about deciding to clear out the landfill (literally!)? Did you think something like this? "Most teams will go for a slow, methodical stacker. We should do that but faster!"

Thanks.

Libby K 13-04-2015 09:47

Re: Karthik & 1114: Effective FIRST Strategies 2015 - Championship Conference
 
Just wanted to bump this back up now that competitions have died down. 1923's entire team will be in attendance - the online versions are mandatory viewing for MidKnight Inventors, and I know they're excited to see it live!

JesseK 13-04-2015 10:07

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We will definitely make every effort to attend.

Hopefully I can think of another tough intelligent question ;). There is always something new to be learned with each talk, even for the veteran mentors.

GreyingJay 13-04-2015 10:19

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I have eager young members of my team looking forward to learning from one of the best. Of course I will do everything in my power to foster and encourage this. We will see you there!

Alex Webber 13-04-2015 11:22

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Will this be livestreamed? Is there someone assigned to record it and post it on youtube?

I really want to see this, and I think it would be benifical for my entire team.

Jay O'Donnell 13-04-2015 12:26

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Do we just show up or do we have to sign up somewhere?

GreyingJay 13-04-2015 12:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay O'Donnell (Post 1470320)
Do we just show up or do we have to sign up somewhere?

I had this question too - I have sent an email to FIRST to ask for clarification.

Edit: answer from FIRST - "All of the conferences are drop in. We look forward to see you there."

Karthik 21-04-2015 14:10

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I'm pumped for this presentation. Looking forward to talking robots and strategy, and sharing some jokes for 90 minutes with the community. I'll see all of you tomorrow! If you have any questions you want to pre ask, please post them here and I'll address them during tomorrow's presentation.

dellagd 21-04-2015 19:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Karthik (Post 1474588)
I'm pumped for this presentation. Looking forward to talking robots and strategy, and sharing some jokes for 90 minutes with the community. I'll see all of you tomorrow! If you have any questions you want to pre ask, please post them here and I'll address them during tomorrow's presentation.

You may be already planning on talking about it, but how do you strategically approach selecting the 4th robot for your alliance?

Even more generally, if you could do more discussion on how to best analyze your scouting data for alliance selection once you have it, that would be awesome. Can't wait to attend the conference! :D :D :D

James3245 21-04-2015 23:04

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You may want to address the strategic dilemmas of "mid-tier" teams such as ours. Like many teams our goal is to get to championships and then be part of an alliance that advances far into elims. Our chosen strategy, and robot design, was great for champs but not so great for regional play, the result being that we never made it to champs.

We decided that a viable strategy for our team, given our decent but not exceptional resources, would be to embrace the role of can specialist. We correctly anticipated that most teams and, certainly the top tier teams, would aim to seed highest and thus spend a lot of time developing tote capabilities. Knowing that we wouldn't likely keep up with the scoring of the top couple of teams at the regionals we attend, our strategy was to complement the top teams by grabbing cans off the step and scoring them on stacks of 4 or 5. If we could grab 2, or even 3 cans, during auto we figured a top team would have to pick us. If we spent our build season trying to develop a tote stacker (like the many robot-in-3-days) we would a)not be as good as the best teams and b)not be of interest to the best teams, certainly not in St.Louis.

So we spent our whole build season developing a very fast, stout can grabber system. We knew better than try to be one of the best do-it-all robots.

But when we analyzed week 1 and 2 scores as we prepared for our Utah regional (week 3) we realized that no one would care if we got cans off the step as in week 1 and 2 the scores were so much lower than we anticipated. 3 cans were generally all that any alliance could score at that point of the season. We realized that there wouldn't be a role for our strategy at Utah. And we were largely right. At Las Vegas the cans off step really only came into play in finals and by then we had been eliminated.

Thus the dilemma of a mid-tier team hoping to do well at champs, and experienced enough to do a decent strategic analysis and also experienced enough to be realistic about resources. We were smart enough to identify a viable niche strategy that we could build and would be desirable at champs. Yet the very niche strategy that might have done well at the highest level doomed us to never getting to that level.

It is an interesting conundrum that I'm sure that many teams like ours will face again next year...

kyle_hamblett 22-04-2015 10:11

Re: Karthik & 1114: Effective FIRST Strategies 2015 - Championship Conference
 
I'm not attending worlds, but I will definitely be looking forwards to the presentation being on Youtube after.

Katie_UPS 22-04-2015 13:59

Re: Karthik & 1114: Effective FIRST Strategies 2015 - Championship Conference
 
To whomever is recording this*, it would be swell if you could record the audio from the mic (easier said than done, possibly) and add the audio in post. The 2013 video's audio is a little... rough.

*I'm assuming a Simbot cast is doing the "official" recording, and so I really mean them, but its an open invitation.

Mike Starke 22-04-2015 23:58

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Karthik,
Thank you for putting on such an awesome presentation! Every time I hear it, I always take away so many different things. Thanks for the laughs, and for everything you do for the FIRST community!

aspiece 23-04-2015 00:20

Re: Karthik & 1114: Effective FIRST Strategies 2015 - Championship Conference
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Libby K (Post 1470206)
Just wanted to bump this back up now that competitions have died down. 1923's entire team will be in attendance - the online versions are mandatory viewing for MidKnight Inventors, and I know they're excited to see it live!

First, thank you Libby. This is an excellent idea. I think I am going to make this mandatory for FRC Team 68, Truck Town Thunder, as well.

Karthik - Another great presentation! I was disappointed when I wasn't able to make it "in time"' last year and I was really excited to hear that you were able to present in the theatre this year. (Its too bad there was volunteer security in the room and we couldn't have heard more) I want to say that as a new leader of Truck Town Thunder, (2010), I have taken a lot of what you have said in this presentation and applied it to our team. We can attribute "rebirth" of our team and the successes we have had to many of the FIRST community and their Gracious Professionalism. FIRST has been a tremendous experience for me as a mentor and I have seen how applying the strategies used in your presentation to our team has really helped us. Don't get me wrong, we have had numerous teams help and inspire us but since I am able to give them a direct thank you, due to proximity, I haven't been able to have many conversations with you in order to tell you thank you. Both this presentation and your Chairman's presentation have been a tremendous help to our team this year. I feel proud to be part of such a great community. I want to take the time to encourage all teams to go to Karthik's presentation, watch it, study it and always strive for perfection! Excellence is an honor and I feel blessed to be able to achieve excellence as my term as team leader of what I consider to be one of the best teams in FIRST, Truck Town Thunder!

Karthik, from the bottom of my heart, I would like to thank you for inspiring me to be the leader I am today. Thank you for reminding me why I do this! Thank you for reminding me of what is important! Thank you for introducing me to Vince Lombardi! Thank you for being a mentor!

Go Truck! #bleedorangeandblue

Knufire 23-04-2015 01:52

Re: Karthik & 1114: Effective FIRST Strategies 2015 - Championship Conference
 
Was there a recording made of this presentation? I know the majority of the content is probably similar to the several other iterations of this presentation already published, but I (and probably many others) would like to hear the case study on Recycle Rush.

thatprogrammer 24-04-2015 16:35

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*waits for a video eagerly*

Anyone saw it live? Anything really unique this year?

kgargiulo 27-04-2015 15:21

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Although I very much wanted to attend the seminar, we had only a skeleton crew of students out of school the first day and with robot and scouting work in progress were not able to split off a group to attend.

I saw mention earlier in the thread of a video recording, but have not seen any posting of where that might be. I've got the links to the earlier versions of the seminar still on my to do list.

Thank you for the work that must go into preparing and delivering this, on top of everything else.

JesseK 27-04-2015 15:42

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I didn't get to go, but many people from the rest of my team did.

As for unique things I haven't heard in his talks before, others told me Karthik hinted at 150ms being the time to beat for canburglars and that while there is an obvious chokehold strategy, it only applies to SF's / Finals. The biggest takeaway my team got from the overall presentation was the difference in time commitment between a normal team and a dominant team and how it relates to the strategy a team decides to go after (i.e. Karthik's Golden Rules).

Karthik made a snip about pretty robots, which he always does. A few of my mentors thought it was specifically us, but - ahem - there are plenty of teams it could apply to. While those types of comments are a tough pill to swallow, they are the reality in some cases. In this particular case it was a driving force of change. It finally got my entire team all on the same page as me and one of my drivers with respect to our Champs strategy. It was definitely easier to make the robot changes and have a very good streak of matches on Friday with the whole team's backing.

Thank you again to Karthik and his crew for putting on this seminar. I can't wait for the upload!

Karthik 27-04-2015 15:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JesseK (Post 1477193)
Karthik made a snip about pretty robots, which he always does. A few of my mentors thought it was specifically us, but - ahem - there are plenty of teams it could apply to. While those types of comments are a tough pill to swallow, they are the reality in some cases. In this particular case it was a driving force of change. It finally got my entire team all on the same page as me and one of my drivers with respect to our Champs strategy. It was definitely easier to make the robot changes and have a very good streak of matches on Friday with the whole team's backing.

Nope, it was meant as a friendly joke to the Poofs. We often joke about how pretty their robots are and they often joke about how... not pretty ours are. :)

wireties 27-04-2015 16:22

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I didn't get to St Louis in time to enjoy this presentation. But 1296 will take the time to study the videos - thanks so much for putting this together!

Brian Maher 27-04-2015 22:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wireties (Post 1477237)
I didn't get to St Louis in time to enjoy this presentation. But 1296 will take the time to study the videos - thanks so much for putting this together!

Would anyone happen to know where to find the video?

microbuns 30-04-2015 21:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BMSOTM (Post 1477561)
Would anyone happen to know where to find the video?

Any updates on this? I've browsed around a bit, can't seem to find anything.

JesseK 01-05-2015 09:45

Re: Karthik & 1114: Effective FIRST Strategies 2015 - Championship Conference
 
I know it sounds preposterous, but some of us still aren't over the fatigue from last week ;). 15-16 hour days on your feet will do that. Be patient, I'm sure it's coming soon.

qzrrbz 01-05-2015 12:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Karthik (Post 1477199)
Nope, it was meant as a friendly joke to the Poofs. We often joke about how pretty their robots are and they often joke about how... not pretty ours are. :)

kind of at a loss as to how *anyone* would think that Sideswipe was less than gorgeous :p

GreyingJay 01-05-2015 13:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by qzrrbz (Post 1479265)
kind of at a loss as to how *anyone* would think that Sideswipe was less than gorgeous :p

Truth. I think 1114's robot this year was one of the prettiest I have ever seen.

I also love lobster. Totally unrelated.

Citrus Dad 01-05-2015 13:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Karthik (Post 1477199)
Nope, it was meant as a friendly joke to the Poofs. We often joke about how pretty their robots are and they often joke about how... not pretty ours are. :)

Sorry, but you beat the Poofs as the "belle of the ball" this year! :D

On the other hand, ours got jankier as the year went on.

burde1jb 11-05-2015 13:44

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Bumping this thread for anyone who has a link to the video recording of this seminar.

Many thanks to anyone who can deliver.

Karthik 11-05-2015 14:13

Re: Karthik & 1114: Effective FIRST Strategies 2015 - Championship Conference
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Katie_UPS (Post 1474923)
*I'm assuming a Simbot cast is doing the "official" recording, and so I really mean them, but its an open invitation.

The team was unable to record the seminar this year due to it taking place at the same time as FRC Practice Matches. Hopefully someone in attendance will post their video; I saw multiple cameras recording the presentation. However, as far as I know, no one was tapped into audio from my mic on the mixer.

ArtemusMaximus 11-05-2015 23:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Karthik (Post 1481509)
The team was unable to record the seminar this year due to it taking place at the same time as FRC Practice Matches. Hopefully someone in attendance will post their video; I saw multiple cameras recording the presentation. However, as far as I know, no one was tapped into audio from my mic on the mixer.

This is unfortunate. I was really looking forward to watching new Effective Strategies seminar.
I hope someone will post their video. Pretty Please?

Brian Maher 12-05-2015 16:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ArtemusMaximus (Post 1481595)
Pretty Please?

Pretty pretty please?

msaunders 13-05-2015 09:55

Re: Karthik & 1114: Effective FIRST Strategies 2015 - Championship Conference
 
Here is the first part of what I was able to capture.
Playback at the highest volume works best for me.
Hope to put up the other two parts in the next few days.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...RDGSHNR-nTarIR

All three parts are now in the play list.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Karthik (Post 1481509)
The team was unable to record the seminar this year due to it taking place at the same time as FRC Practice Matches. Hopefully someone in attendance will post their video; I saw multiple cameras recording the presentation. However, as far as I know, no one was tapped into audio from my mic on the mixer.


pntbll1313 13-05-2015 11:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by msaunders (Post 1481839)
Here is the first part of what I was able to capture.
Playback at the highest volume works best for me.
Hope to put up the other two parts in the next few days.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...RDGSHNR-nTarIR

Thank you!

cadandcookies 13-05-2015 13:02

Re: Karthik & 1114: Effective FIRST Strategies 2015 - Championship Conference
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by msaunders (Post 1481839)
Here is the first part of what I was able to capture.
Playback at the highest volume works best for me.
Hope to put up the other two parts in the next few days.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...RDGSHNR-nTarIR

You are a fantastic person in every way. Allow the masses to shower you in thanks and green dots :P

msaunders 14-05-2015 09:25

Re: Karthik & 1114: Effective FIRST Strategies 2015 - Championship Conference
 
All three parts are now uploaded.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...RDGSHNR-nTarIR


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