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NightTrain 30-03-2015 17:39
Re: 2015 Waitlist Spots
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lynca (Post 1463743)
If you were invited on the waitlist, what day did your team receive your waitlist invitation ?
3288 received its invite on Thursday March 26 while at Denver regional

s1900ahon 30-03-2015 17:53
Re: 2015 Waitlist Spots
 
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Originally Posted by Link07 (Post 1463857)
Here's the list of teams qualified off of the wait-list, with the last time they qualified for champs. There may be some errors, as it was difficult to determine wildcard scenarios in some instances. The current number is ~70.
2158 qualified for 2015 CMP by winning Engineering Inspiration on Archimedes at the 2014 CMP. They're not a waitlist team.

Link07 30-03-2015 18:00
Re: 2015 Waitlist Spots
 
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Originally Posted by s1900ahon (Post 1463973)
2158 qualified for 2015 CMP by winning Engineering Inspiration on Archimedes at the 2014 CMP. They're not a waitlist team.
Fixed.

ThunderousPrime 30-03-2015 23:12
Re: 2015 Waitlist Spots
 
I'm at a little baffled at how the teams that attended the Championship last year (78, 135, 3042, 4355) were able to apparently get waitlist spots. Perhaps there is something I don't know but it seems to contradict Frank's blog post from a while back.

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Waitlist Changes for 2015

Waitlist slots will no longer be first come first served, as they have been – essentially – in prior years. When teams sign up for the Waitlist will no longer matter, as long as they sign up during the time the Waitlist is open.

Also, teams will be selected randomly from the Waitlist, with the number of chances they have of being selected equal to the number of years they have missed attending Championship. As an example, if a team on the 2015 waitlist last attended Championship in 2012, that team has ‘missed’ Championship twice, and so will have their number ‘put in the hat’** twice. If a team on the 2015 waitlist last attended Championship in 2004, they have ‘missed’ Championship 10 times, and will have their number put in the hat 10 times.*** Teams who have never been to Championship will be considered as missing every year they have been a team. You will note this means that teams who attended Championship in 2014 will not be eligible for selection from the Waitlist. As a practical matter, though, since for several years Waitlist sign-ups for teams attending the prior year Championship have been later than those who had not attended the prior year, we rarely – if ever – have ended up inviting those prior-year teams anyway. One final note – teams must have participated in FRC during all their ‘missed’ years for those years to count in this system. As an example, for a team that participated in FRC in 2002, then did not participate again until 2005, we would only look back to 2005 in determining Championships missed.

Link07 31-03-2015 00:25
Re: 2015 Waitlist Spots
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ThunderousPrime (Post 1464105)
I'm at a little baffled at how the teams that attended the Championship last year (78, 135, 3042, 4355) were able to apparently get waitlist spots.
This confusion stems from the fact that the blog post does not reflect the system that would be eventually be implemented in the 2015 Administrative Manual. According to Section 7.5 of the Administrative Manual:

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Teams will receive a number of “entries” to get selected from the Waitlist equal to 2015 minus the last year they attended Championship (or their rookie year, or when they most recently returned as an active team, whichever year is the most recent). As examples, a team that attended in 2014 will get one entry in the waitlist drawing, a team that last attended in 2013 will get two, and a team that has never attended but has been continuously active since 2005 will get ten.
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MrTechCenter 31-03-2015 00:30
Re: 2015 Waitlist Spots
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Link07 (Post 1464139)
This confusion stems from the fact that the blog post does not reflect the system that would be eventually be implemented in the 2015 Administrative Manual. According to Section 7.5 of the Administrative Manual:



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But there are plenty of teams with far more "entries" than the teams that participated at last year's championships yet these teams still get to go while others have to wait and see. It doesn't make much sense to me. Unless, these teams that attended last year have qualified in some other way that has not yet been reflected on this thread.

Gregor 31-03-2015 00:43
Re: 2015 Waitlist Spots
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MrTechCenter (Post 1464140)
But there are plenty of teams with far more "entries" than the teams that participated at last year's championships yet these teams still get to go while others have to wait and see. It doesn't make much sense to me. Unless, these teams that attended last year have qualified in some other way that has not yet been reflected on this thread.
It's The Hunger Games and those lucky teams are Prim.

EricH 31-03-2015 00:55
Re: 2015 Waitlist Spots
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MrTechCenter (Post 1464140)
But there are plenty of teams with far more "entries" than the teams that participated at last year's championships yet these teams still get to go while others have to wait and see. It doesn't make much sense to me. Unless, these teams that attended last year have qualified in some other way that has not yet been reflected on this thread.
It is a random drawing. If you have 20 tickets into a drawing, I have one, and there are 500 tickets overall and one prize, I have a 1/500 chance and you have a 1/25 chance for the prize. But if my ticket is drawn first, I get the prize, right?

More entries means a higher chance of getting your ticket drawn, but your ticket still needs to be drawn.

tindleroot 31-03-2015 08:41
Re: 2015 Waitlist Spots
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MrTechCenter (Post 1464140)
But there are plenty of teams with far more "entries" than the teams that participated at last year's championships yet these teams still get to go while others have to wait and see. It doesn't make much sense to me. Unless, these teams that attended last year have qualified in some other way that has not yet been reflected on this thread.
Our teams were entered once, which means we have a chance to win a spot. If we were not supposed to win a spot, then our teams would not have been entered in the first place.

Travis Hoffman 31-03-2015 09:41
Re: 2015 Waitlist Spots
 
I see 233 was not on the waitlist spot...list. Did they get a wild card somehow?

I ask this because they will be at QC - wanted to know if they generated a wild card.

On that note....do waitlist spot teams who still have to compete at regionals generate a wild card at that event? Hmm....

Steven Donow 31-03-2015 09:44
Re: 2015 Waitlist Spots
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Travis Hoffman (Post 1464222)
I see 233 was not on the waitlist spot...list. Did they get a wild card somehow?

I ask this because they will be at QC - wanted to know if they generated a wild card.

On that note....do waitlist spot teams who still have to compete at regionals generate a wild card at that event? Hmm....
233 got their slot by being captains of the finalist alliance to 2468 who generated a wildcard from winning EI at Champs last year.

ATannahill 31-03-2015 09:51
Re: 2015 Waitlist Spots
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Travis Hoffman (Post 1464222)
I see 233 was not on the waitlist spot...list. Did they get a wild card somehow?

I ask this because they will be at QC - wanted to know if they generated a wild card.

On that note....do waitlist spot teams who still have to compete at regionals generate a wild card at that event? Hmm....
No they do not.

http://www.usfirst.org/roboticsprogr...ility-criteria

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Wild Card Slots for the 2015 Championship

Teams can earn a Wild Card slot at their Regional Event. Any team at a Regional who has already earned a FIRST Championship spot prior to the Regional and earns an additional spot at the Regional (by being on the Winning Alliance or being selected for one of the three qualifying awards) will generate a Wild Card slot. Additionally, any Team earning two qualifying spots at a single Regional (e.g. by being on the Winning Alliance and earning the Chairman’s Award) will generate a Wild Card slot.

A team who has already earned a spot at FIRST Championship prior to the Regional and earns two qualifying spots at the Regional will generate two Wild Card slots.

A Team is considered to have already earned a FIRST Championship spot prior to the Regional if they are a pre-qualified team per Section 7.2, earned a spot at an earlier Regional by being selected for one of the three qualifying awards per Section 7.3.1, are on the Winning Alliance per Section 7.3.2, or earned a Wild Card slot per this section. Teams who have been selected from the Waitlist to participate in the FIRST Championship do not generate Wild Cards.

The Wild Card slots are distributed to the Finalist Alliance, in the order of Team selection (Alliance Captain, 1st Pick, 2nd Pick, Back-Up team, if a Back-Up team participated), until either all Wild Card slots generated at that event are distributed or the Finalist Alliance is out of Teams, whichever comes first. If a member of the Finalist Alliance has already earned a spot at the FIRST Championship, they are passed over and the next member of the Alliance is given the available Wild Card slot. A team may decline a Wild Card slot they have been offered, but this does not pass the Wild Card slot down to the next team in line, instead, that Wild Card slot will go unused. Unused Wild Card slots will not be backfilled or replaced.

lynca 01-04-2015 22:36
Re: 2015 Waitlist Spots
 
A bunch of waitlist invites were sent out today. Registration jumped from 335 to 386 Wednesday afternoon.

Check out the team list to see if your team was invited.
http://www.usfirst.org/roboticsprogr...p-event?id=432

Richard.Varone 01-04-2015 23:58
Re: 2015 Waitlist Spots
 
271 received a wait list spot today, the last CMP we attended was 2012.

GreyingJay 04-04-2015 15:38
Re: 2015 Waitlist Spots
 
2994 got a waitlist spot! We have never been to worlds before so we are excited! It was a mad scramble to reach out to our sponsors to get help with the registration, and now we are madly scrambling to find accommodations for the team.

Question: How do we get instructions for shipping the robot? (We have never done this before). The KoP is at the school which is closed for our Easter long weekend until Tuesday, but I recall an envelope with something from FedEx. The admin manual says:

"5.8.2 Shipping your Robot to the Championship
1. If your team qualifies for FIRST Championship, you will be emailed one (1) FedEx electronic shipping document after the qualifying event to ship your robot to the FIRST Championship."

But we did not have a qualifying event because of the wait list. Do we still get an email? What should I be looking for? Please and thanks!

(We do have a crate, at least. Whew!)

Can't wait to meet everyone!


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