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rclothier 30-03-2015 13:58

Highest Litter Scores
 
For your edification, here are the highest litter scores at Regionals through Week 5. Since different Regionals don't play the same number of matches, the following is an average per match at a given Regional.

Rank Average Team Regional
1....... 33.9... 3959.. Bayou
2....... 33.0... 1723.. Colorado
3....... 31.5... 5415.. Mexico City
4....... 30.1... 1114.. Waterloo
5....... 29.6.... 192.. Utah
6....... 28.5... 2036.. Colorado
7....... 27.2... 4009.. Central Illinois
8....... 26.8... 3158.. Mexico City
9....... 26.8... 3506.. North Carolina
10..... 26.4... 1410.. Colorado

It is interesting to note that 6 of the top 10 scores came at high elevation events, Denver, Utah, and Mexico City. Guess noodles fly farther through thin air.

Ed Sparks 30-03-2015 14:23

Re: Highest Litter Scores
 
Jacob is the Noodle Ninja .........

He is at one with the Noodle ........ he has become the Noodle.
He will Noodle again this week at the Smoky Mountain Regional and raise the bar.

cjl2625 30-03-2015 14:31

Re: Highest Litter Scores
 
I don't know if you were counting districts, but we averaged 26.5 per match (best at Hartford).
We don't try to noodle our cans, but our human player is getting better at better at throwing them (including throwing noodles into scored stacks).
He's earned names like the Noodle Whisperer, the Noodle Messiah, Noodle Jesus, etc

At RIDE during week 4, 2168's human player had a 29.5 average, with some perfect 40 point matches.

hardcopi 30-03-2015 14:35

Re: Highest Litter Scores
 
At St Joe:

2767 31.16
2959 28.1

(Our noodler wants it known that he had to throw from behind the wall for 2 matches because we had 2 chute bots on our team.

Tim Sharp 30-03-2015 14:48

Re: Highest Litter Scores
 
Jacob was able to achieve his average at sea level in NO. I wonder how he'll do "at elevation" in Knoxville.

rclothier 30-03-2015 15:35

Re: Highest Litter Scores
 
You are right, I only looked at Regionals, not Districts. I will put together an amended list and post it as soon as possible.

JamesCH95 30-03-2015 15:40

Re: Highest Litter Scores
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rclothier (Post 1463801)
For your edification, here are the highest litter scores at Regionals through Week 5. Since different Regionals don't play the same number of matches, the following is an average per match at a given Regional.

Rank Average Team Regional
1....... 33.9... 3959.. Bayou
2....... 33.0... 1723.. Colorado
3....... 31.5... 5415.. Mexico City
4....... 30.1... 1114.. Waterloo
5....... 29.6.... 192.. Utah
6....... 28.5... 2036.. Colorado
7....... 27.2... 4009.. Central Illinois
8....... 26.8... 3158.. Mexico City
9....... 26.8... 3506.. North Carolina
10..... 26.4... 1410.. Colorado

It is interesting to note that 6 of the top 10 scores came at high elevation events, Denver, Utah, and Mexico City. Guess noodles fly farther through thin air.

This data is interesting, but its utility and your conclusion are questionable unless 'canned litter' and 'thrown litter' points can be separated. Maybe it has been already?

Vespasian 30-03-2015 15:55

Re: Highest Litter Scores
 
Interestingly enough, my team had the highest litter points at the Finger Lakes Regional, with a total of 195. That only averages out to 17.2 per match in qualifications, yet FLR was a very competitive regional this year. I'm wondering why that is when other regionals with lower overall QA's had much better top litter scores. Maybe those top teams (in terms of litter score) are outliers?

rclothier 30-03-2015 16:27

Re: Highest Litter Scores
 
Here is the corrected list of the Top 25 Litter Scores, including Districts. (Soooo many Districts....)

Rank Average Team Regional
1....... 33.9... 3959.. Bayou
2....... 33.0... 1723.. Colorado
3....... 31.5... 5415.. Mexico City
4....... 31.4... 3238.. PNW Glacier Peak
5....... 31.2... 2767.. FIM St. Joseph
6....... 30.9... 2767.. FIM Kentwood
7....... 30.1... 1114.. Waterloo
8....... 29.6.... 192.. Utah
9....... 29.5... 2168.. NE Rhode Island
10..... 28.9... 3238.. PNW Central Washington
11..... 28.9... 4188.. Peach Tree
12..... 28.5... 2036.. Colorado
13..... 28.2... 1647.. MAR Seneca
14..... 28.1... 2959... FIM St. Joseph
15..... 27.8... 2342... NE UNH
16..... 27.7... 1983... PNW Mt. Vernon
17..... 27.3... 1720... IN Kokomo
18..... 27.2... 4009.. Central Illinois
19..... 26.8... 3158.. Mexico City
20..... 26.8... 3506.. North Carolina
21..... 26.7... 2474.. FIM St. Joseph
22..... 26.7... 2342.. NE Granite State
23..... 26.7... 2522.. PNW Auburn
24..... 26.5... 2067.. NE Hartford
25..... 26.4... 1410.. Colorado

Note: This list was edited to correct a mistake; accidentally left out 4188 at #11

dodar 30-03-2015 16:29

Re: Highest Litter Scores
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rclothier (Post 1463801)
For your edification, here are the highest litter scores at Regionals through Week 5. Since different Regionals don't play the same number of matches, the following is an average per match at a given Regional.

Rank Average Team Regional
1....... 33.9... 3959.. Bayou
2....... 33.0... 1723.. Colorado
3....... 31.5... 5415.. Mexico City
4....... 30.1... 1114.. Waterloo
5....... 29.6.... 192.. Utah
6....... 28.5... 2036.. Colorado
7....... 27.2... 4009.. Central Illinois
8....... 26.8... 3158.. Mexico City
9....... 26.8... 3506.. North Carolina
10..... 26.4... 1410.. Colorado

It is interesting to note that 6 of the top 10 scores came at high elevation events, Denver, Utah, and Mexico City. Guess noodles fly farther through thin air.

Mind doing this for the lowest scores?

rclothier 30-03-2015 16:29

Re: Highest Litter Scores
 
I'm almost certain this is total litter score, including bins and thrown litter. So I'm not sure it has any utility at all. Except my team is near the top, so I like it very much.

rclothier 30-03-2015 16:36

Re: Highest Litter Scores
 
I can put together a similar list of lowest scores, sure. Might not be the most "gracious" thing, but it could be enlightening.

Jacob Bendicksen 30-03-2015 16:49

Re: Highest Litter Scores
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rclothier (Post 1463921)
Here is the corrected list of the Top 25 Litter Scores, including Districts. (Soooo many Districts....)

Rank Average Team Regional
1....... 33.9... 3959.. Bayou
2....... 33.0... 1723.. Colorado
3....... 31.5... 5415.. Mexico City
4....... 31.4... 3238.. PNW Glacier Peak
5....... 31.2... 2767.. FIM St. Joseph
6....... 30.9... 2767.. FIM Kentwood
7....... 30.1... 1114.. Waterloo
8....... 29.6.... 192.. Utah
9....... 29.5... 2168.. NE Rhode Island
10..... 28.9... 3238.. PNW Central Washington
11..... 28.5... 2036.. Colorado
12..... 28.2... 1647.. MAR Seneca
13..... 28.1... 2959... FIM St. Joseph
14..... 27.8... 2342... NE UNH
15..... 27.7... 1983... PNW Mt. Vernon
16..... 27.3... 1720... IN Kokomo
17..... 27.2... 4009.. Central Illinois
18..... 26.8... 3158.. Mexico City
19..... 26.8... 3506.. North Carolina
20..... 26.7... 2474.. FIM St. Joseph
21..... 26.7... 2342.. NE Granite State
22..... 26.7... 2522.. PNW Auburn
23..... 26.5... 2067.. NE Hartford
24..... 26.4... 1410.. Colorado
25..... 26.0... 3711.. PNW Central Washington

2 of the top 3 PNW scores are at 'mountain' events...Glacier Peak and Mt. Vernon. Coincidence? No way.

Ether 30-03-2015 18:49

Re: Highest Litter Scores
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rclothier (Post 1463921)
Here is the corrected list of the Top 25 Litter Scores, including Districts. (Soooo many Districts....)

Rank Average Team Regional
1....... 33.9... 3959.. Bayou
2....... 33.0... 1723.. Colorado
3....... 31.5... 5415.. Mexico City
4....... 31.4... 3238.. PNW Glacier Peak
5....... 31.2... 2767.. FIM St. Joseph
6....... 30.9... 2767.. FIM Kentwood
7....... 30.1... 1114.. Waterloo
8....... 29.6.... 192.. Utah
9....... 29.5... 2168.. NE Rhode Island
10..... 28.9... 3238.. PNW Central Washington
11..... 28.5... 2036.. Colorado
12..... 28.2... 1647.. MAR Seneca
13..... 28.1... 2959... FIM St. Joseph
14..... 27.8... 2342... NE UNH
15..... 27.7... 1983... PNW Mt. Vernon
16..... 27.3... 1720... IN Kokomo
17..... 27.2... 4009.. Central Illinois
18..... 26.8... 3158.. Mexico City
19..... 26.8... 3506.. North Carolina
20..... 26.7... 2474.. FIM St. Joseph
21..... 26.7... 2342.. NE Granite State
22..... 26.7... 2522.. PNW Auburn
23..... 26.5... 2067.. NE Hartford
24..... 26.4... 1410.. Colorado
25..... 26.0... 3711.. PNW Central Washington

4188 at Peachtree had 28.9 per match but is not in your Top25.

Code:

event        Team        M        LpM
LAKE        3959        9        33.89
CODE        1723        10        33.00
MXMC        5415        11        31.45
WASNO        3238        12        31.42
MISJO        2767        12        31.17
MIKEN        2767        12        30.92
ONWA        1114        13        30.08
UTWV        192        10        29.60
RISMI        2168        12        29.50
WAELL        3238        12        28.92
GADU        4188        8        28.88
CODE        2036        10        28.50
NJTAB        1647        12        28.17
MISJO        2959        12        28.08
NHDUR        2342        12        27.75
WAMOU        1983        12        27.67
INKOK        1720        12        27.25
ILIL        4009        12        27.17
MXMC        3158        11        26.82
NCRE        3506        10        26.80
MISJO        2474        12        26.67
NHNAS        2342        12        26.67
WAAHS        2522        12        26.67
CTHAR        2067        12        26.50
CODE        1410        10        26.40



rclothier 30-03-2015 18:50

Re: Highest Litter Scores
 
Per request, here is a list of the lowest per-match Litter scores at a Regional or District.

Rank Score Team Event
1....... 0.1... 148.. Dallas
2....... 0.7...2170.. NE Waterbury
3....... 0.9...4845.. Lake Superior
4....... 0.9...3461.. NE Waterbury
5....... 1.0...5143.. Lake Superior
6....... 1.2...3350.. Dallas
7....... 1.3...1124.. NE Waterbury
8....... 1.3....987.. Dallas
9....... 1.3...4818.. Lake Superior
10..... 1.3....236.. NE Waterbury
11..... 1.3...1071.. NE Waterbury
12..... 1.4...2897.. Dallas

What we can take from this is there wasn't as much noodle action in Week 1, which produced all of these scores.

So, let's put the data to some better use. First of all, the litter scores generally increased week by week. Here is the average of the lowest and highest litter score at each event week by week:

Week 1: 34.2 / 202.6
Week 2: 54.2 / 239.4
Week 3: 55.2 / 227.3
Week 4: 67.3 / 282.6
Week 5: 70.3 / 263.5

The average high Litter score was 246, while the average low score was 58.

The scores also varied widely between events. For example, the lowest scores at Mexico City (140) and PNW Central Washington (130) were higher than the highest score at Dallas (117), Waterbury (110), and New York (128).

Interestingly, not all low Litter scorers were bad teams. In fact, 3 of the low scorers (out of 88) ended up ranked #1: 148 at Dallas, 33 at FIM Southfield, and 125 at NE Rhode Island. However, scoring high is always helpful: 17 of the high Litter scorers ranked #1, and 9 were ranked #2.

The average Rank of the high Litter scorer at each event was 7.9, while for the low Litter scorer, it was 29.6. So on average, higher ranked teams did better (not surprisingly).

The average team number for the high Litter scorer was 2490, while for low scorers it was 2929. So it skews a bit toward older teams, but not much.

What's it all mean? Litter points are helpful, but you can have a successful strategy that doesn't rely heavily on them.

rclothier 30-03-2015 18:53

Re: Highest Litter Scores
 
You are right about missing 4188 at Peach Tree. My apologies. I double checked, and I didn't skip anyone else.

DinerKid 30-03-2015 19:00

Re: Highest Litter Scores
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cjl2625 (Post 1463827)
I don't know if you were counting districts, but we averaged 26.5 per match (best at Hartford).
We don't try to noodle our cans, but our human player is getting better at better at throwing them (including throwing noodles into scored stacks).
He's earned names like the Noodle Whisperer, the Noodle Messiah, Noodle Jesus, etc

At RIDE during week 4, 2168's human player had a 29.5 average, with some perfect 40 point matches.

We need a video of this...

~DK

page2067 30-03-2015 20:41

Re: Highest Litter Scores
 
We'll eventually get some video out of this trick

We embraced the dark side of the game - throwing litter on the neighbors!

But for this not really throwing it in but inserting it in barrel from over the wall
Sonny did it (insert noodle in barrel after it was stacked on 5 totes) several (4?) times during quals. and a few in elims - fun.

Plus a good thrower!

mrmummert 30-03-2015 23:20

Re: Highest Litter Scores
 
I recall at Virginia we had one match that we had a litter score of at least 32 and there was one match that was higher....46 comes to mind. We are tied with team 3072 for a 141 litter average. I guess the only way to verify this is to go back and check the matches we played in if there is video of it. There was one match where our human player landed a noodle
that ended up balanced on top of an opposing alliance robot and another where a noodle went into one of the opposing alliances cans.

Rebecca Pelzer 30-03-2015 23:33

Re: Highest Litter Scores
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mrmummert (Post 1464107)
I recall at Virginia we had one match that we had a litter score of at least 32 and there was one match that was higher....46 comes to mind. We are tied with team 3072 for a 141 litter average. I guess the only way to verify this is to go back and check the matches we played in if there is video of it. There was one match where our human player landed a noodle
that ended up balanced on top of an opposing alliance robot and another where a noodle went into one of the opposing alliances cans.

141 was your total number of points, not the average. ^^ Can be pretty confusing though, so I can see it being easy to mix up.
--
Likewise, 3959's litter total for Bayou was 305! :o I believe all or most of those were from thrown litter as well.

rtomp 31-03-2015 22:04

Re: Highest Litter Scores
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DinerKid (Post 1464005)
We need a video of this...

~DK

The 40 litter point match?

Andrew Schreiber 01-04-2015 13:50

Re: Highest Litter Scores
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rclothier (Post 1463997)
Interestingly, not all low Litter scorers were bad teams. In fact, 3 of the low scorers (out of 88) ended up ranked #1: 148 at Dallas, 33 at FIM Southfield, and 125 at NE Rhode Island. However, scoring high is always helpful: 17 of the high Litter scorers ranked #1, and 9 were ranked #2.


HP was too busy building stacks and eating cheesecake. Told him not to take it to the field but kids don't listen.


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