Originally Posted by themccannman (Post 1466882)

Much smaller target to hit, it's inherently less reliable. Also see 971, it's easy to angle your hooks so that the cans get knocked off as soon as your hooks hit.

Originally Posted by asid61 (Post 1467067)

IIRC there were teams at SVR going for handle grabs (5076 or some team around there). We can do this ourselves with consistency, and at a speed considerably faster than anything I've seen so far (we didn't use this at SVR due to unforseen geometry issues). It's a little faster for the effort/power because there is no need to telescope (not to mention the weight is lower), but I will admit it's harder to line up than a center grab. Thanks for directing me to 971's grab, it looks interesting.
It remains to be seen what champs will look like.

Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 1467417)

You don't *have* to telescope to reach both bins, it's a function of where your burgular pivot points rest and how wide you can make your setup. Ultimately, ignoring inertia for a moment, the hole ends up being faster because it is slightly higher off the ground, thus you travel less angular distance to reach it. Of course, reality doesn't ignore inertia.

Originally Posted by Hallry (Post 1465874)

It occurs at 2:10:36 here: http://new.livestream.com/accounts/1...events/3935043

Originally Posted by BethMo (Post 1467808)

That video only goes to 1:45:55 for me. Where's the rest?