Best Robots Not To Qualify for Champs
 

I'm interested to find out which robots the community thinks are the best that did not qualify for Champs.

In Western NY, 1126 and 1507 did well but didnt have a high enough average to make finals at Finger Lakes. 3117 did well in Montreal but unfortunately only one wild card spot was generated at the regional so only the finalist captain (congrats 3996!) qualified. Also I was impressed by 696's robot and surprised that they haven't been to Champs since 07! They had amazing robots for the last 3 years!

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Team 2102 Paradox had some great play at Central Valley and San Diego and they did not qualify.

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At SVR, team 846 The Funky Monkeys did really well and if their alliance (3rd alliance captained by 368) had made it to finals, they would have qualified via wildcards. Their robot was very effective (and their logo with the monkey in a recycling container is super cute).

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It's unfortunate that 2485 WARLords aren't on the list this year after building a very impressive robot and being crucial in the top scoring match (Quarters 2) at San Diego. Since 2012 they've had unique and creative approaches to every game.

334 TechKnights are an NYC powerhouse, and prepared a beautiful robot this year, but an elusive elevator issue hurt their average throughout most of qualifications at the SBPLI Long Island regional.

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WARLords are a killer team and it's unfortunate they won't be at champs. If I had to get knocked out of champs, this season isn't that bad ;)

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Team 179. That robot was wicked cool.

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I have to give a big shout out to team 1987 the Broncobots. Their robot this year was one of the best that I have seen, because their conveyor was one of the best that I had seen. Capable of making 5 six stacks in a match, if performing at peak performance, they were unable to win at both KC and Buckeye regional, and were not able to secure a ticket to champs. They are on the wait list, and hopefully, hopefully, there are some declines and they make it to St. Louis because I can think of no more deserving robot out there than them.

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According to this map, MN is 17 teams short, so I'll get as many as I can here, sorted roughly with most deserving at the top:
2883: A very capable robot that could easily have won either of their events.
4539: Seeded 1st and 3rd at their two events, but got knocked out early in elims twice due to a series of unfortunate events.
3883, 2175: Haven't seen them in person, but they have high OPRs and are perennial favorites in this state.
5172, 4859: Again, haven't seen either of these in person, but they seem to be solid all around and I have heard great things about them.
2509, 3299: Both great loader robots that can make high-scoring stacks
1816: The double stacking master, easily one of the best landfill robots in the state.

There's 9, I'm halfway there. Anyone else care to fill in the rest?

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Team 3230 PrototypeX had a very good robot but unfortunately lost late in elims at 2 regionals. They could put up 70+ points alone.

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I have to copy you here dude. Very disappointing to not see 1507 and 1126 move on. Both extremely incredible robots this year (as always) and both former Einstein teams. I am excited to see these machines again at Ruckus however! :cool:

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4539 was 1st and 2nd seed at Lake Superior and 10,000 Lakes. They were coop gods and had a canburglar for 10k.

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1816 won Engineering Inspiration at Lake Superior and Chairman's at 10K Lakes.

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Also 2883 qualified to champs via the wait list.

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I think anyone who saw their reveal would agree that it's sad to see 1657 not qualify. Their design was insane, and they made it work well.

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1287 improved immensely between Palmetto and Virginia and finished ranked 2nd and have unfortunately not qualified for Champs.

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I'd like to add 3055 to teams in the MN area. They were a great pick once they fixed out the kinks in their belt-lift system, and really shined at North Star IMO.
(Thank you for the mention though, oh my gosh)

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I'll also add 2472. By north star(from watching the archived elim videos) they had a good landfill bot.

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They we're certainly a very good robot. However, it's hard to believe that they did 5 6's and didn't easily win a regional. Unless they just weren't capping them, which wouldn't be too strategically bright. No matter how far they went though, still a great robot.

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I have to give a big shoutout to 865 and 4917 here in Ontario.

865 had an extremely impressive landfill robot. Easily had the potential to put up two 6 stacks capped. Expect big things from this team in years to come.

4917 really shinned at North Bay, consistently putting up two 5 stacks, and capping the 5 stacks with a tote and bin. They were really close to taking home a blue banner at the North Bay Regional. Unfortunately, even as captains of the second alliance, there were no wild cards available to them after the finals.

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I love those guys. Not that this year calls for it but they drive defensive like nobody else. Very impressive team.

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I think 868, the Techhounds, definetly were a deserving team. Fantastic landfill and feeder station robot, just faced some unfortunate circumstances that prevented them from moving on.

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4539 was the 3rd seed at 10K Lakes: http://www.thebluealliance.com/event/2015mnmi

That was silly of me, of course they qualified.

Cool, I wasn't aware of this. They will do well at champs.

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This. This right here is super disappointing. I was really hoping they'd get in off the wait list or something because I wanted to see this robot in person.

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Best robot I witnessed that I don't think made it was....
Team 696 - Circuit Breakers

They had a killer 20 point auto that worked 90% of the time and were similar rest of game to both Warlords and Team Paradox in multiple stack abilities in fact better and more consistent.

That's not to say WarLords and Paradox should be there but best IMO was 696 overall both competitions we were in and most consistent.

Holy Cows was ultra impressive too best bot in San Diego. Not sure if they made it to worlds somehow.

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Holy cows are Hall of Fame as of a couple of years ago, so they qualified.

Also, all of those teams were extremely impressive and it's sad not to see them at champs.

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How do you get 40 points in auto?

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1987 without a doubt is the best and coolest robot not going to champs.

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My bad 20 points (3Gold stack) out of loop on scoring now

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That's good for Holy Cows that bot is awesome.

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4500's six stacker with a canburglar from Clayton high school had an amazing robot! They made it to eleminations but their alliance was simply not strong enough to move on

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865 and 1836 for me ;)

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1836 is registered.

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With people talking about a lot of great California and Minnesota teams not making it to champs, it's pretty clear that the regions being grossly underallocated slots is not helping teams.

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Our Alliance Captain at Hartford, Team 177 - Bobcat Robotics, was an incredible team to work with. I admit that their bot wasn't too great at Pioneer, but they became a great capping bot that could can-steal at super fast speeds.

Going to New England Championship and now FIRST Championship feels weird without this incredible team. I hope they plan on doing Off Seasons.

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My mistake. Either way, a great performance.

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Guys, don't worry. All of these teams will be in next year, plus a couple hundred more. See, good change, right?
</sarcasm>

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1987, when working at optimal performance, this robot was intimidating...

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1731
The only continuous chain hook elevator I've seen to solve stacking and capping 6 with the same mechanism.

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1287 was impressive. They had a really solid landfill stacking robot that worked since week 1.

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Champs Team List: https://my.usfirst.org/myarea/index.lasso?page=teamlist&event_type=FRC&sort_team s=number&year=2015&event=cmp

Out of the teams we've played with not attending champs: 4655, 2194, and 2077 are all champs caliber IMO.

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Team List for those interested: (Will update as the thread progresses)

177
179
334
696
846
865
868
1126
1287
1507
1657
1731
1987
2077
2102
2175
2194
2472
2485
2509
3055
3117
3230
3299
3883
4500
4539
4655
4859
4917
5172

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I'm not sure if you are being sarcastic or not. Personally instead of expanding waitlists I favor expanding the district system so teams that have potential and under perform at their first events can do well at the District Championship and qualify. Districts do a pretty good job of sending the best robots to Champs via the point system.

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This will be a strange Championship without team 25.

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I concur. Team 25 is a solid team that has a good robot. I can't believe that with the expansion of Championships that they would be overlooked. I know a lot of us are still hoping they get in.

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456 (siege robotics, from Vicksburg) built an incredibly consistent machine this year. They always made 2-3 capped stacks of 5 per match, from the HP station. They captained semifinalist alliances at Orlando and Smoky Mountains, and were the #2 seed at Bayou. They lost F-2 by only 2 points.

179 was also amazing, very creative can grabber and a really attractive robot.

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1987 is the best robot not going. They would do well with one that can cap their stacks. They only missed by one point going to elimination rounds at Buckeye. I was heartbroken watching that match. I can only hope and pray they will get invited from the waitlist.

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I'd like to cast a vote for 283. Only saw them play at Peachtree, but they were highly capable of putting up two capped six stacks by themselves from the HP. And highly deserving of being the number one overall pick by 1319.

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25
177
179
283
334
456
696
846
865
868
1126
1287
1507
1657
1731
1987
2077
2102
2175
2194
2472
2485
2509
3055
3117
3230
3299
3883
4500
4539
4655
4859
4917
5172

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3276 had a good performance this year(Awesome landfill bot). They were picked 1st overall at Lake superior.

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Looks like 25 just got added from the wait list.

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Actually the declines have finally been updated in the system, so teams from NE, MAR and FIM are getting added as teams above them decline their invitations.

Looks like 3 declines in MAR, 7 in NE and 1 in FIM.

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1987's robot can make 5 stacks of 6, but not capped. If they get picked from the wait list and are put in a division with a team that can consistently cap 6 stacks, noodle or no noddle, and can grab containers from the step. They will be a terrifying alliance to compete against. Especially if they can also get a team that is a landfill bot and can create several uncapped stacks on the platform not used by 1987.

Another amazing team that isn't going to worlds is 67. If I am not mistaken. They were knocked out of Quarter-finals at the Michigan District Championship. After winning both of the District Events they attended. And an average score of 126.83.

That is the sad thing about Districts. Amazing teams that deserve to go to worlds have a harder time getting there, as they have to score high in the point system to make it to the championship then they have to either win, get chairman's or get E.I.

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67 is an HOF team, so they should be qualified to go.

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67 is going to worlds. They are a Hall of Fame team, and they finished 10th in FiM.
http://frc-districtrankings.usfirst.org/FIM/67

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I believe there were only 2 declines from MAR (316 + 272)

EDIT: I stand corrected.

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I'm pretty sure districts makes it EASIER for good teams to qualify.

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Agreed. This is why MN is so underrepresented at champs without the districts system.

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4285 also declined their invite

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Well another reason is also that they lost 5/12 regional champ spots from their own regionals.

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True. Some non-MN teams did win at MN regionals. Even if those 5 slots did go to MN teams MN would still be underrepresented. Also keep in mind some of those slots were made up because teams like 525 and 2826 gave wildcards to the finalist alliances they faced as well.

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I must say 138 Entropy. Great capper and fast 2-can burglar in auto, then drove and lined up for the other two in auto but grabbed them in teleop. Could also do 1 coop quickly. Was our 1st pick at UNH and another finalists at Granite State.

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That's great news. They had a really unique and awesome robot this year.

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MAR replaced the NJ and philly regionals, or 6 winners slots, 2 chairmans, 2 EI slots, and 2 rookie slots for a total of 12 slots.

Presently, mar sends about 25 teams plus wait list teams. Why is it harder?

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I don't think you understand how districts works. After the winners and award recipients receive their slots the next X number of slots left that the division sends are chosen from the next highest ranked teams.

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1987; awesome conveyor bot