2015 Carson Division
 

Carson has the highest average OPR (44.08) and 1/4 of the top 24 teams (by OPR). This is going to be a stacked division!

Team List:

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Great resource for a quick summary!
http://championship-notifier.evanfor...ivision/Carson

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Hello Carson! We look forward to playing with all these great teams.

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WE GOT 254 AND 1501 :D

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This looks like it will be the strongest division this year, with 67, 225, 254, 1519, 1730, 2085, 4488, 5254, and 5406 all looking like they could captain a high alliance on another division. Very, very exciting.

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There's no other way to put it: Carson Division is stacked.

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:yikes: :ahh: :]

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Team 4499 is excited to be in Carson with all of the amazing teams.

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Not to mention you guys have 1519... This division is honestly just unfair.

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We're super excited to play with all these amazing teams! The field will definitely be a very exciting place!
#StackCity

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This is gonna be awesome.

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5254 is very excited to be able to play with so many amazing teams! We are also glad to see our local friends 20 and 1511 in the same division.

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2601 is excited to be with 67, 254, 4488, etc. in Carson during our first ever year at Worlds. Looking forward to a great competition.

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I'm liking the pun usage.

I can't wait to see all of these amazing teams in action, and I'm sure working with everyone in this division will be a great experience! Good luck to everyone!

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Well this is going to be interesting... :yikes:

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This is gonna be one Shocking division, that's for sure. The Carson curse could also be Poofed before it even begins.

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Nope, that's Tesla.

You could say the division is Deep.

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Team 3339 is very excited and looking forward to play with all of you guys!
See you in St. Louis :)

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1058 is very excited to be playing on Carson! See you all in a week!

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Is there going to be posted a match schedule including the matches for Carson field like they did last year?

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1710 is pumped! Maybe we will be able to work with 1730 this time instead of against :)

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I look forward to seeing what can burglars teams bring. When glancing though the team list, there doesn't seem to be a ton of talent in that department going in.

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Rookie team 5406 is super excited to be competing with all the great teams in Carson division! Best of luck to everyone!:D

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Everyone please post pics of Carson teams.

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Yes please. We're digging through photos for something to throw on TBA. It's tempting to create a Flickr space for everyone to put a picture of each robot.

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I've handled pic collection in the past (don't have time this year), you don't want to leave it public and open.

Instead have the gallery view only, and people can email pics in.

You saw what trolls did to the division prescouting doc after all.

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Good point. I was impressed but disappointing as I watched Mario and Nyan cat take over the sheets. Does anyone want to volunteer to manage this photo collection?

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Wow this is very interesting!! Definitely one of the two most stacked divisions this year. Looking forward to it!

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3481 Bronc Bots

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You just wait....

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Important question: are any teams on Carson planning on recording all of the matches?

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20 will for scouting purposes, but I'm unsure whether we will post them (or whether they'll stay posted for that matter.)

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aside from having so many great teams, it's even better seeing that there are some many great teams who are older and younger, 254 and 4488 being the most notable in my perspective. 254...well everyone knows them and 4488 has been doing SOOOO well recently, last years robot and this years robot are top notch.
Best of luck and don't forget to stop by and ask about our team!!!!
(I'll be in the pit a decent amount of the time, if anyone want to say hi :) ...I can always use another robotics friend)

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4215 is excited to be in St Louis for the first time and we can't wait to play with all these amazing teams
Best of luck to everyone!

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1511 will be recording the matches as well; I'll do everything I can to get them uploaded ASAP. :D

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Interesting how our team keeps getting missed as somebody to look out for.. :rolleyes:

lol, see y'all at champs we are looking forward to playing with all of y'all! :D

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Cooper just accept it........ :mad: :mad: :mad:

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But..... :(

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Trust me, you guys will be on everyone's radars. I've been watching a lot of your matches. Love your design and it's awesome seeing you guys put up 3 full stacks! I look forward to taking a close look at your robot(s) next week :)

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999 checking in. Very excited for some matches with you all!

Here are some pictures. Best I could do on short notice
http://i.imgur.com/Qpm4JZ0.png
http://i.imgur.com/t6Bbjqx.png

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Here's FRC Team 1501 T.H.R.U.S.T. robot
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/photos/41906

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Who in our division has canburglars?

Here's my list so far:

16
67
1711

(I'm sorry that my list is so short, I don't know many of you guys. Yet!:D )

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I have added some more that I remember off the top of my head.

16
67
225
254
1511
1711
3339
4488 (1x)

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85 (1x) they used it at MSC

16
67
85 (1x)
225
254
1511
1711
3339
4488 (1x)

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5053 Laker Robotics is blown away by the quality of the robots in Carson.

We have been lucky to have been mentored by Killer Bees 33 and learn from Rush 27, who are in our neighborhood, but when I saw that HOT 67 was ranked 8th in the division I was both scared and thrilled.

We look forward to playing with all of you in St. Louis.

If you want to know more about our team please see:
the spot on Robozone about us, http://voice.adobe.com/v/SpXmE5TFSZJ
or our video about our first year, http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...6runI#t=10 80.

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And these are only the ones we've seen so far! I think every alliance could have a can grabber if they scout well. The question is: Who is the fastest?

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558 and 5122 both had them at NE Champs. 1058 is rebuilding ours.

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1519 also has a 2-can grab. It was well-practiced at the practice fields at NE DCMP, but it only saw use in one official match (see Q38 at DCMP, in which it worked perfectly)... a side-effect of having a dependable 3 tote auto is that we typically wanted to lock in the 20 points! We are currently speeding up our canburglars; for DCMP 'reliability!' was our mantra, now we're complimenting that with speed.

558 and 5122 both have quick ~1s 2-RC burglars that they used throughout NE DCMP. Both have two of the better canburglars at DCMP, but expect them to be speeding them up some!

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Me, filling out our pre-scouting table earlier:

4+ stacks
3 stacks
3 stacks
3 stacks
3 stacks
2.5 stacks
2.5 stacks
2.5 stacks
... (list continues impressively)

Yikes. Tough crowd to stand out in!

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You were not missed at Bayou :)

We will be cheering for you from the Tesla Field.

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I feel like Carson shouldn't have a field named after her. For example, Copernicus seems much more impactful than Carson.

Carson - alerted world about the impact of fertilizers/pesticides on environment
Copernicus - proved planets and planetary objects orbit around the Sun, not Earth

and most people have never heard of Carson. Maybe only known scientists should have fields named after them like Stephen Hawking, Ada Lovelace, Thomas Edison, or Dmitri Mendeleev. Anyone have any opinions?

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So what if people haven't heard of her? Does that make her work any less influential and impactful?
She did more than alert the world about pesticides and the environment; she inspired the green revolution.
Read her book.


On a similar note......we need a cheer.....

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Team 2471 has a two can grabber as well!

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RA-CHEL CAR-SON! *clapclapclapclapclap*

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Yes it does make her less impactful. Alerting the world about pesticides is far less impactful than what Einstein did. That is why the finals field is not named after her. And because the scientists I listed are more impactful than she, one of them should be named a field over her.

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The good news...with two Championships, there will be potentially be more field naming opportunities.
I appreciate what FIRST is trying to do by including a diverse set of changemakers in their naming schemes. Objectively measuring the magnitude of one's impact is not an exact science.

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16
67
85 (1x)
225
254
558
973
1511
1519
1711
2471
3339
4488 (1x)
5122

2471 is on the list as well, and we'll have new and improved burglars for champs.

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I'm going to have to disagree strongly with you there. As Jaywalker said, Rachel Carson changed the world, especially for scientists and engineers. Before Silent Spring, few people gave any thought to the side effects and long-term impacts of the products they produced and consumed. The future was bright, and humans could do no wrong that they couldn't fix later :)

Carson's careful research, and effective publicity woke us all up to the fact that our environment commons did not have a limitless capacity to absorb our crap. The book created a movement that led to the first really strong environmental protection laws, but more importantly changed the way everyone thinks of their place in nature. There are tens of thousands of environmental scientists working in fields of study that didn't exist before the 70s. Engineers today have to consider a much broader context when introducing new products, and I think we're a better profession because of that.

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Never said she didn't do anything or didn't have an impact. I said there are others who had greater impacts. And if you want to talk about things before the scientists, before Copernicus everyone believed Earth was the center of the universe. Before Ada, there was no programming. Before Edison, there were no lightbulbs.

My point was I think the fields should be named after people who are known. No doubt there are a myriad of scientists who impacted the world, but if no one knows of them, they shouldn't have fields named after them. The name of the field should make one think "Hey, I know of that person. They did this..." Not, "Never heard of them." Also, Nye Field would be cool.

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Predictions!

254-973-1241-85 W
1519-4488-236-1629 SF
225-1296-3339-999 SF
1730-16-203-3478 QF
67-5254-246-3604 F
1325-4587-2471-1058 QF
399-2085-1501-3547 QF
60-5406-1711-5122 QF

Most of this is totally unlikely- but hey, if you don't like my predictions, go out there and prove them wrong!

EDIT: Thanks for pointing that out, Nick.

Also add your predictions. I love this stuff.

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Forgot 4587.

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Lol..... :rolleyes:

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3339 is very excited to be able to play with so many amazing teams :D
SEE YOU !!

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This is going to be such a competitive division, I can't wait to get to work with these teams and some of our friends from PNW! #StackCity

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Team 60 is excited to make some PHAT $TACK$ with everyone!:D ;) This is definitely going to be the most exciting and competitive field! Good luck to everyone in advance!

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The Preliminary Match Schedules have been posted.

Practice

Qualification

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FIRST Robotics Team 5122 the RobOTies would like to share some photos of our robot:
https://www.facebook.com/frc5122/posts/647727005359627

By removing 3 parts we can be 10.5 LB underweight so cheesecake is an option!

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Wow!

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I've taken a stab at calculating everyone's "Strength of Schedule" (SOS) in Carson using the preliminary schedule. You can find the results here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

This was a little different than what I did last year (which was use OPR to predict a "win margin" for each team at each match and then average the predicted win margin). This year, I thought the best way to show SOS was, for each team, calculate the average number of *points* all of their alliance partners will bring to their matches (where max OPR is a stand in for points in this method). A team's own OPR is ignored, as are the OPRs of the opposing alliance. This ignores the resource constraints that will come into play during the high scoring matches (the limited number of chutes and cans), and any unique pairings that might help or hurt a team's efficiency, but I think it's a good first effort. The data could be useful for planning strategy, and might also influence scouting. Feel free to suggest modifications to my method!

And I'm sorry for team 1629 :(

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Yuck! SOS 74 out of 76....lets go partners, we gotta do better than that! Gonna have to come up with some creative strategies to maximize our skills together.

Planning has started already. Can't wait unil Wedbesday.

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25th. We can work with that.

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Looks like we got lucky...

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Let's remember these teams with super high negative rank differences (like 1629) when picking...
(not at all motivated by the fact that my team has the third most negative rank difference :D)

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Don't worry, I'm sure that the best teams will sort through the purple haze :yikes:

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Yeah, I mean, most of us should be scouting teams. And also, I'm definitely gonna be rooting for you to pull through because you are awesome for making it this far. I believe in you guys.

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1629 GaCo, is looking forward to the challenge. We have the 20 point auto, great at coopertition, and can make some stacks! We can/will be valuable for an alliance in elims, the 20 point auto can make or break things!!! We will just be out there trying to be as consistent as we can be! Keep us in mind!

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Ouch! We thought our 61 of 76 was going to be an uphill climb -- you're in an even tougher spot!

Then, looking at the average "SOS" for 1629 -- that's quite a hole, makes me wonder if it can even be correct, being over 20 points below 75th place -- but, assuming it is correct, it's cool to hear that they seem unphased by the challenge!

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I've updated the table to include a "SOS difference from the mean" column. This gives a signal for just how much boost or hindrance the schedule might mean for a team's QA:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...sp=sheets_home

Don't take this table as gospel though - the max OPRs from previous events won't tell you exactly how much your alliance mates will help at Carson (as previously disclaimed).

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... and I just read this post about the overly weighted influence of auto OPR on the predicted score. Oh goody, more work to do :)
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...8&postcount=13

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I have a favor for anyone in Carson...

We need a cross fitting (am-2380) for our pneumatics before inspection. We ordered one to our pit, but at MSC our order didn't get to our pit until Thursday night, so I'm not sure we will have it in time. If anyone could loan us one, we can give it back when ours arrives.

Thanks! :)

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OK, that took longer than expected, but I updated the SOS spreadsheet to show the modified method of match prediction mentioned upthread. It certainly shifted the SOS rankings around a bit, but the team955 OPR database has a couple of differences than Ed Law's, so that could have been responsible too.

I've also added a column for *prediction caution* which flags any match predicted to exhaust the 3 staged cans. That's like half of them, so expect there to be many fewer QAs over 130 than predicted.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...gid=1772597961

Finaly, Angelah - We don't have a cross fitting, but I think we can spare two (1/4" press-in) tee fittings. If that helps, feel free to visit us at our pit.

Edit - just thinking a bit more, there's some other weirdness about the predicted co-op scores in SOS V2. I've added some comments about that here: http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...1&postcount=24

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16
67
85 (1x)
225 (2+2)
254
558
973
1511
1519
1711
2471
3339
4488 (1x)
5122

Minor update to the canburgaling list...our 4 can autonomous ran successfully at the Upper Darby MAR District Event where we started on one side and then drove over to the other side of the field and got the other set of two cans.

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Do you remember in which game/s did you guys used this autonomous? And if you do do you have any videos?

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I dont have a link to tge video right now but I saw it yesterday and can verify that it happened at least in one match.

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Why would we be phased by the challenge? In 2015, we won a regional, and the Chairmans Award, what a great season already!!! Championships is just icing on the cake! We here at Team 1629 take everything in stride. To quote my 2 year old daughter "That's what you get and don't throw a fit". So when it comes to match schedules, that is the philosophy we use. The only thing we can control somewhat is the strategy that is played out in each match to maximize points!!! Good luck to all teams!

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I love this guy! I hope that we are on an alliance with you!

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Team 85 rocks my face off!!!!!!!! GO Carson division:] :] :] :] :]

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Sounds painful.

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What a fantastic attitude! Sorry we're not scheduled to have a match together.

When I saw that there was an "SOS v2" I thought, "Maybe 1629 won't still be 76 of 76 in the new list." However, it looks like you still are bottom of the list. :(

However, 1519 is moving down to keep you company. We went from "61 of 76" in "SOS v1" to "73 of 76" in the new list!

We're looking forward to working with our alliance partners to come up with some strategies that defy the predictions... :)

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The V2 algorithm works against consistent co-op teams like 1519 (and 5406 fwiw). It assumes that your team will do co-op all of the time, but that the next highest co-op teams on your alliance will only score their average number of stacks (instead of making more stacks with the time they save not co-oping). Still - it does highlight the fact that you need to work on the strategy for those matches.

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1629 is packing up and will be on the way tomorrow!!!! Let's do thing St. Louis!! FRC is coming, can you feel it??? Stop by our pit and see our LEGOS, and ask how we provide inspiration all over the world with our LEGOS!! Safe travels to all, have a great time, and stay calm and FRC on!

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Not the best view, but here it is: https://youtu.be/UTapc7CNcH4?t=2h58m46s

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1511's Championship re release video :)

https://youtu.be/B0R0skR1nFo

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Carson Robot Pics

imgur.com/a/OeFwI

Also if you know of any pics that arent on the album let me know and ill get them uploaded. I apologize if anyone is offended that their image was reuploaded. I found it the easiest way to compile the images.

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Team 3880 is ready to go! We have a nice light ramp for use by anyone, I believe it was under 3lbs., I will reweight it tomorrow.

We started a can grabber at Silicon Valley Regional with the help of Devin from Citrus Circuits and will should have it ready in time for qualifiers.
Mahalo Devin you are the man!

If not we currently have 7lbs. free and if we remove one part it will free up an additional 15lbs. That's 22 lbs of cheese caking goodness!!

I will post a new picture tomorrow after we uncrate to reflect the improvements added during our two regionals!

Very excited to be part of this division and look forward to working with all of you.

Good Luck to Everyone!

ALOHA!

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It looks like Carson is the one division where the official qualification schedule is different than the preliminary schedule: http://frc-events.usfirst.org/2015/C...qualifications

So much luck.. :'(

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OK I'm confused, I just turned on the stream at noon St. Louis time and they're on match 9. The schedule says they should be through match 26. Anyone know what happened?

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Delays.

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No delays. They just had to replay the match due to a field issue.