Newton Division 2015
 

Divisions are out! Check out Newton here.

Team List:
Top 20 Max OPR (From the link provided):

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My money is on Newton to win Einstein.

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4 Indiana teams in Newton! We're excited to compete with 1720, 3940, and 5188 as well as all the other great teams from around the world!

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2468 is excited to be in Newton with several old friends and looking forward to matches with new friends.

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Skunk Works is ready to stink up Newton again.
Looking forward to playing with our buddies 955 and lots of other friends both old ones and new ones to make while we are there!!

Good luck to everyone!!
This could be fun.....

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Wow, this looks like it's going to be fun! We're super excited to make lots of new friends this year and play with old ones.

Are we actually going to have a Qualification match with 1983?! Only time will tell :rolleyes:

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Newton has always been good to us. Time to add a new feature to our robot.

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Team 4522- Team SCREAM is proud to be on Newton with the rest of these awesome teams!

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This should be fun. 195 is happy to be in Newton once again.

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What makes you think that? Have you seen Curie?

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A bit of gut feeling, and an abundance of "canburglars."

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2607 is very excited to be able to play in the venerable Newton Division!

Well, hopefully we won't be needing many trips to the practice field...

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Quoted for Truth.

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Nothin wrong with gut feelings.

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I'm from 3641, what a diverse group of teams (at least for us.) I expected that we'd be with a ton of other Michigan teams, but we're one of the few Michigan teams in the division,:ahh: But I certainly look forward to working with teams from all around the country, good luck Newton teams! :D

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Just a quick question, how many landfill bots do we have in Newton?

List of teams I know:
118
1741
1720

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Hey, that's a familiar logo! :p Hehe

I noticed this, too... When we were in Galileo in 2013, there were a few more Michigan teams than this, but again we were kinda isolated. A lot of them went to Curie that year, I think.

It makes me really curious how FIRST decides which teams go to which divisions...

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3015 is pumped to bring our machine to the classic Newton Division.

At first glance, Newton has some incredibly fast canburglars in 118, 1678 and 3310. It's going to be interesting to see how alliance selections goes when you include all of the other great robots. Can't wait!

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Team 1111 is also a land fill bot

Looking at the online database the only other one I can see is 2158 but a lot of teams haven't filled it out.

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The Gila Monsters (3785) is proud and excited to be a part of Newton Division this year. This is the first time attending Championship.

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540 is proud to represent Virginia in Newton! :D

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The Ligerbots, from Newton,MA, are excited to be in Newton

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1756 can do landfill. Put up 2 stack of 6 and a stack of 5
http://www.thebluealliance.com/match/2015ilch_qm33


also can do 3 stack of 6 from feeder
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGww...C9wQRyaHUmAe_O

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Team 3940 is excited to show off some new features of our robot in the Newton division.

See you all there!

-Nick

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Updated list of Newton landfill bots:

2158
1756
1741
1720
1111
118

Anyone else?

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3130
3539
3314

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537 is a landfill bot as well

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Team 3171 is capable of playing land fill. However we prefer to play from the human player station.

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We will almost definitely be seeing Newton in the grand finals. Probably rivaled by Carson.
This division is very top heavy

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Could someone start the scouting sheet for we can figure out who are all the great canburglar in the division? :D

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It's not going to be very useful information. The number of teams with new or upgraded systems is going to take that list and render it obsolete.

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There is already one going for all divisions, and due to this being the internet, refer to this.

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4118 is excited to be a part of the Newton Division this year and having the opportunity to compete against some of the best in the world. See you next week!

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587 is happy to be joining the fun and to be one of two teams representing NC in the Newton Division division. We can do land fill and are adding bin burglars for Champs.

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3574 is happy to join our Skunky friends in Newton. Funny to have both teams from Highline School District on one field.

You can add 3574 to the list of landfill bots, and the easiest one to spot.

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118 and 1678 have won together already this season (Sacramento-Week 4). My money's on them to get to Einstein.

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1466 is a landfill robot as well. We can't wait to compete with you guys!

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Alright, so now my list reads:

118
537
587
1111
1466
1720
1741
1756
2158
3140
3171
3314
3574

Anyone I'm missing?

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They are definitely the obvious pairing, and it'll probably happen if either of them seeds first. They still have to be wary of the qualification schedule though.

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1671 is excited to compete on Newton again. We look forward to competing with everyone as well as joining 1678 and 118 on Newton, who we competed with in Week 4 in Davis.

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We are a landfill bot too

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I think many scouters will be surprised by the improvements that some of the teams will have made by champs.
We may be one of those surprising teams...

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5012 is excited to be playing on Newton this year!

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So, Newton division, what features do you guys want to see in a robot for alliance selections?

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3467 can play landfill but it isn't our preferred method. From the HP station we can make 2 6-stacks and cap them or do 4 5-stacks uncapped for our partner to cap (we usually have enough time to cap one of our own stacks). From the landfill we probably can do 2-3 5-stacks uncapped or 1-2 6-stacks capped but we haven't yet tested this theory.

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In that case, I hope we have an alliance together at some point. Whether it be elims or quals.

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Team 3539 is a landfill bot

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Team 74 is happy to playing in Newton. I am glad to play in a division that isn't over run by michigan teams. I like to go to worlds and play with teams I don't get to play with all year.

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Note: Newton lost a team and is now at a total of 75 (and is currently the smallest division).

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Looks like we lost 3783.

Think they'll move someone from Archimedes, or will we stay with 75?

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Looking at the range of teams I doubt they will move a team but you never know with FIRST

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Did I see a tether wire to a robot in that video on the red alliance? If so what is the purpose of it and didn't it cause tangling problems with robots driving over it?

Just curious

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The wires is 1756 tether to there slide. It is used to connect are robot to a slide. We have gone through extensive testing to find the best tether that is the least likely to get tangled.

Side note it looks like one of the video links are broken. Bellow are the correct links

1756 can do landfill. Put up 2 stack of 6 and a stack of 5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGww...C9wQRyaHUmAe_O


also can do 3 stack of 6 from feeder
http://www.thebluealliance.com/match/2015ilch_qm33

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1756

Have you changed your tether since the last match you showed (the three stack)? It appeared that your partner got caught on it. Can you explain?
thanks!! You guys sure can stack...

How do you use your can grabbers? Do you have to stack without your ramp then?

We look forward to playing with you on Newton!!

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It looks like they moved 2522 to Newton from Archimedes.

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Who did they move?

Edit: Looks Like you updated your post.

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Welcome to Newton, 2522!

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It's great to see another Washington team coming to Newton
Welcome Royals!! We look forward to playing with you!!

:)

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Can we get something together maybe a google doc of robot pics from every team in newton. Would help alot of teams out.


We cant wait to show off a few new upgrades.

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Sorry about that one i forgot they got tangled in are tether. i modified the post above to be more correct. From what i remember they got tangled due to excessive turning on the tether and were the only one to get tangled at Midwest.

The can grabber can be used in Auto to grab 2 cans or during teleop to grab a single can.

During playoffs we gave the ramp away so that we could have the option to do auto can grabber. However we found are 3 tote auto to be worth more points due to are teammate having a great can grabber.

we can play without are ramp though. We have put up 2 stack of 6 and 1 stack of 5 from the land fill. I am pretty sure if we did it correctly we could put up 3 stack from the landfill.

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Thanks for the info
We look forward to playing with you on Newton!!
You look like you have a terrific robot!!

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I think this would be a good idea, it could be a way for people who can't see a team's number to identify the team.

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Do you guys have any video of your can grabber ?

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thanks you guys are looking good to. Can you get can from the step?

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We ended up only using them once in a match during teleopo. We are making new grabbers that should preform better.

Can you guys grab cans from the middle? How do you deal with knocked over cans?

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We cannot grab cans from the middle. If we have a knocked-over can we upright it and then grab it, takes ~5 seconds extra vs. picking up an upright can. Can you give a match number where you used your can burglar? I watched some of your matches last night but never saw it. You guys are looking like a strong bot, especially if you thrown on some fast burglars, and landfill stacking will be valuable.

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Yes, we can get cans from the step. We've used it in auto and teleop in our matches.

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Our 2 can grabber can be seen at 1:16
video from Tech Valley Regional
(we are working on improvements this was our first tests of it :) )
[also at 2:33 you can see me throwing a noodle :D :o ]

Here's our robot reveal that includes footage of our robots can grabber

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And playing with 1678 for the THIRD year in a row! Makes watching matches with my sister and brother in law much easier when we're on the same field.:)

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May the marketing begin! ;)

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We don't have bin grabbers, but we can consume cheesecake rapidly...

At worlds, we should have (finally) the ability to stack with tipped over bins without wasting 15 seconds.

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We do not have a video of are bot using auto grabbers but we did do it once during teleop http://www.thebluealliance.com/match/2015ilch_qm54

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We will be ready to flip totes right side up and we love the cheesecake and dont mind being tethered to a ramp

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I know right! Hopper and Archimedes have almost all of the big Michigan teams.:confused: :ahh: :yikes:

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Yeah we're two of only four Michigan teams in Newton this year!:ahh:

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FTFY

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74, 1918, 3539, 3641, and 5710. Huh. I don't know how I messed that up. Thanks!

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We are looking forward to seeing all of these great robots on Newton. We have made several upgrades, allowing us to turn our 5 stacks into 6 stacks, we can do at minimum 2 capped+noodled stacks. Also we are working on perfecting our 20 pt auto.

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Like many other teams 587 will be upgrading our robot at championships. We've been testing a two bin grabber on our practice bot and it looks very encouraging. Can't wait to see it on the field. Also modified our arms so we can quickly stand bins upright as most of us seem to prefer them in that orientation.

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Anyone tried to make a 0.2 pound canburglar? :eek: ::rtm::

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Our students just finished putting together a little highlight video of our robot at the two regionals we attended this year and it also includes a sneak peak of our new auton they have been working on.

Enjoy and see you all in a few days!

https://youtu.be/NVTRUIfjxxU

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Amazing autonomous for the coolest robot I've seen this year. Good luck on Newton!

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have you seen carson its going to be carson and curie in finals thats where my money is

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It's hard to win when the other alliance has 7 bins to your 3. Raw stacking power does you no good unless you have bins in your possession. Whoever pairs with 1678 will win Newton and whoever pairs with 971 will likely win their division also.

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Really?

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I think that is a fairly good prediction. 1678 has shown that they have a very reliable can grabbing system, and also another set for cheesecake that is fairly reliable as well. A team that picks them has a good chance for getting all 4 cans from the step, which would be hard to beat. They also are a great team with a history of doing well at champs.

JohnSchneider what about that prediction is not reasonable?

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I wouldn't say that prediction is inherently wrong. 1678's canburglar and overtly offensive power could potentially guarantee their win. Assuming their scouting system is as comprehensive as it was last year, and assuming they rank as high as predicted, they're in pretty good shape to validate that prediction.

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I just didn't realize we had collectively thrown in the can burgling towel. No one sent us the memo.

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I think the point is that this is one team that has the potential of getting 4 containers with just one pick. Their cheesecake arms have been shown to be reliable and effective.

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I think your team might have something to say about this...

It will be fun

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John,

3310 inspired us to drop out 4 can grabber and try something new.

Everyone should know that the race has only begun.

Deciding a winner now would be foolish.

We look forward to playing with and racing against some of the best teams in the world.

-Mike

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Wasn't a knock on you guys. But it's a competition, and it bothers me so many people give up so easily :)

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I don't think anyone has given up I think it was just an opinion based on what has been seen so far.

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Team 1111 has been working on a 4 can grabber ;)

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May the battle of the milliseconds commence swiftly and end decisively!

Remember, every 0.001 second adds up.

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What you've seen so far is nothing compared to what we're going to see come Thursday.

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And Saturday is going to make Thursday and Friday look glacial.

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Sounds like fun!

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I'm not gonna lie, I don't feel nearly that confident, if we're not the fastest then we have a very slim chance of winning anything. No one has any idea how fast anyone else is. No matter how fast we go there's always someone who could go faster. I can tell you that the mechanism we showed off during the season definitely wouldn't cut it, I doubt it would have been good enough to make it through division semifinals. We're going as fast as we can with the materials available to us, but that still may not be fast enough, and I'm definitely not willing to put down any money until I see what everyone else has up their sleeve.