**FIRST EMAIL**/Please give us your feedback on FIRST Announcement of 2 Championships
 

I wonder if they'll have any results in time for the championship meeting.

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*cracks knuckles*

Time to get writin'

Re: **FIRST EMAIL**/Please give us your feedback on FIRST Announcement of 2 Champions
 

I just took the survey, most of the questions seem to be leading to a predefined result of the experience being more important than the actual competition. They only have a couple that actually ask about being around the best teams.

Re: **FIRST EMAIL**/Please give us your feedback on FIRST Announcement of 2 Champions
 

CD has been waiting for this...

Re: **FIRST EMAIL**/Please give us your feedback on FIRST Announcement of 2 Champions
 

Awesome that they're doing this. Sadly its WAY WAY too late. Months before signing contracts would have been the correct thing to do.

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I disagree. All of the elements they asked us to rate were quite distinct. They can't ask "how important is determining a world champion" three times.

I'm glad FIRST is actively seeking feedback. This makes me optimistic about our chances of coming to some sort of agreement between the FRC community and FIRST.

Re: **FIRST EMAIL**/Please give us your feedback on FIRST Announcement of 2 Champions
 

Oh they'll have them, its just a question of whether or not they will share :rolleyes:

Re: **FIRST EMAIL**/Please give us your feedback on FIRST Announcement of 2 Champions
 

The best time for FIRST to have sent out this survey would have been a year ago (or more).

The second best time is today.

Hopefully lots of people respond! (and yes it's okay to disagree with the hivemind)

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Kudos to FIRST for doing this.
I just hope they have an option of changing things according to the results.

The questions pretty much covered all the stuff that's been said in the threads, i believe the opinion should be well expressed here in general.

I wish they could add a field for original ideas on how to make Champs better, might have got some interesting responses...

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Guess you shouldn't fill it out then (?)

You get to rate 1-10 about 20 different elements of Championships, then pick your top 5. Meeting celebrities did not make my top 5, but you can put it there if you want!

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There are certainly more questions they could have asked about seeing the best teams.

There were no/very few questions asking for things like
How important is it that you see teams from the other side of the country?
How important is it that you see Woodie Flower Award winners and other leading mentors?
How important is it that you play with the most competitive teams?
How important is it that you make new relationships with teams on the other side of the country?
How important is it that you can learn from all of the most competitive teams?


Instead many of their questions are about the venue. How important is a fancy stadium? How important is it that there are a bunch of teams? How important is a large scale event? How important is the surrounding area?


Notice how those two groups of questions ask very different things.

Re: **FIRST EMAIL**/Please give us your feedback on FIRST Announcement of 2 Champions
 

Definitely important questions that should have been included, considering some complaints and easy solutions are based on these topics.

I feel like
-Seeing and competing with the teams with the best robots in FRC
-Seeing and meeting top teams, like prior Chairman's Award winners (Hall of Fame teams)
-Participating in a competition that identifies the best teams playing the game

All are identical topics to the questions you asked, or similar enough that you are adding redundant data points at best and confusing survey takers at worst.

I would say it/s a 50/50 between the competition and the periphery of the competition. The thing about surveys is that you're free to rate things like "seeing celebrities" at a 1 with impunity if that is your opinion. Some people may think playing in arena like the Georgia Dome or EJDome are imoprtant experiences, and that can be ok!

One thing I included in the survey is something along the lines of this: "I don't want to think we are at best customers, and at worst pawns. We're partners." Everyone should try to look at everything though that lens, inlcuding Manchester.

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Agreed. I covered your points in the comment box....barn door now closed, horse nowhere in sight...

Re: **FIRST EMAIL**/Please give us your feedback on FIRST Announcement of 2 Champions
 

My thoughts exactly. Two events is obviously a done deal and set in stone, however, there's a way that 2 events can actually work if they just listen to our feedback. Hopefully, enough people speak up that they'll be unable to ignore it or write it off as just a vocal minority.

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Hey folks....let's give them a chance. Let's see what they do with this.
There were boxes to put any comments in that you might want to give.

I remember a FIRST that would not have done this....before,after or during...