How many recycling containers are going to die this week?
 

With all of the can grabbers that are being developed for champs and some of the power levels being tossed around in attempts to shave milliseconds, I think there are going to be many recycling containers destroyed at champs.

So, how many do you think will be destroyed over the 3 days?

I'll start it at 65

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my guess will be 26

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I haven't seen one destroyed this year.
I've heard of one being taken away and never heard of again at GTCR when a cleaner mistook it for one of their cans (their's were blue).

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I mean... no joke but we thought about throwing them... we thought it would have been appropriate for us given our robot from last year:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqHk50xX1_A

And yes, the code does exist to throw them... though it has been safely hidden away.

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Citrus Circuits has already proven they can bust an RC lid. So, with that in mind, 600 teams, 8 divisions..... I'm guessing we will see 24 RC's sent to an early retirement.

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I say no more than a few.

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I thinking with newly minted and untested canburgulars on many machines, the potential for can (and robot) carnage is definitely elevated.

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Poor cans are pretty beat up already. I'm guessing in the 10s max.

Noodles, about 30 per division (I saw about 20 dead noodles/regional max). Especially mechanum-heavy divisions.

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Will they be recycled?

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5 or less. You might pop the top off but that's just 2 zip ties to replace. I have not heard of an actual failure of the cans at all.

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I wouldn't imagine the cans taking much damage. Some canburglar mechanisms might render a few unusable, though only maybe 3 or 4. Noodles, on the other hand...there might be a few packs of those lost.

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Less than 5. Ive seen 1000 matches live this year and even the most lengthy battles only end in penalties.

Seen a few popped tops though.

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I have a bet running with a teammate on at least 1.

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If anyone is going to destroy a can, I'd put my money on 340. They grip the can so tight it is sometimes still indented when they let go. It also hurt them once at FLR.

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Looking at the mechanisms for rapid tote-grabbing, I'd guess that there will be no fatally damaged cans all weekend. I also guess five fatally damaged lids before Einstein, and another five on Einstein.

There will be many more lids separated from the cans which can be restored to service with new tie wraps and perhaps a half second with a drill.

I also expect at least one "spectacular G18" where a robot is dragged mostly or completely across the step. This seems most likely to happen when two grabbers engage with each other rather than being transitive through an RC.

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Were there any recycling containers removed from play at champs? I don't remember seeing any.

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I didn't notice any. They're Rubbermaid cans. They're supposed to take abuse from garbage truck which are far far more rough than any FIRST robot could ever hope to be.
The only time we lost one was at GTCR to a cleaner who wasn't paying attention and took it away. Other than that they were fine for the most part.

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Do you know if any lids were ripped off the can?

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If they didn't rip off on einstein, with all the abusive can burglars there, i doubt it...

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We almost had this at Finals 2 on Einstein. If 118 hadn't let go...

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I don't expect any damage to the cans. I do expect damage to can burglars though, seeing as we have broken ours a few times.

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I do recall seeing one fairly tall robot whose top was pulled across the step, into the airspace over the opposite landfill. However, it appeared to be above the landfill totes and did not (I believe) result in a G18 violation.

Not only did the canburgular wars not quite reach the fever pitch I anticipated, I do not recall alliances going after the inverted totes or totes on the step in an effort to get those last few points, which I sort of expected at the division finals and on Einstein.

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I remember watching 2338 grab an inverted tote so they could use it to push the opposing pool noodles next to the step. A very smart move that helped them move on to the next round.

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There was a case of entanglement during Finals 2 of the Hopper sub-division. The tug of war between 987 Highrollers & 1218 Vulcan Robotics begins around 0:40 and continues for over a minute. The red alliance received a red card for a G18 violation.

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This is actually an amazing thing. I want one.