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jojoguy10 23-04-2015 19:15

Airplanes. Airplanes everywhere!
 
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Post your paper airplane pictures here!

tyler34 23-04-2015 19:22

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Call me blind, but I can't see a single paper airplane in that picture...

BrennanB 23-04-2015 19:25

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Or we don't encourage mass littering?

Hallry 23-04-2015 19:26

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Originally Posted by BrennanB (Post 1475261)
Or we don't encourage mass littering?

But you get points for littering on someone else's property...

Electronica1 23-04-2015 19:26

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Originally Posted by tyler34 (Post 1475259)
Call me blind, but I can't see a single paper airplane in that picture...

Hmm, guess they are using stealth. First manned aircraft, then UAVs, guess it was bound to transfer over to paper airplanes at some point :P

AlexanderTheOK 23-04-2015 19:31

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Originally Posted by Hallry (Post 1475262)
But you get points for littering on someone else's property...

So when do you think we'll start to see human players learning to fold their noddles into paper airplanes? I imagine they'l fly quite a bit farther!

jojoguy10 23-04-2015 19:45

It's not the best picture, but there were a BUNCH of airplanes flying through the air!

DKdude1 23-04-2015 19:46

Here's one!

jojoguy10 23-04-2015 19:58

Here's a video of everyone throwing one at the same time!
https://youtu.be/4k9Y1LO9ie8

Headphones 23-04-2015 20:26

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Brings back memories of 2013, when I scored one in the pyramid goal on Einstein.... (from the highest tier of stands, no less)

cbale2000 23-04-2015 20:37

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Originally Posted by jojoguy10 (Post 1475283)

Announcer: "If you're in the air force, we simply call that, air..."
*Video Cuts*

NOOOO what did he say?!? :(

pleaseignore 23-04-2015 20:43

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Originally Posted by cbale2000 (Post 1475304)
Announcer: "If you're in the air force, we simply call that, air..."
*Video Cuts*

NOOOO what did he say?!? :(

He said "air power."

protoserge 23-04-2015 21:13

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Please don't encourage this activity. It IS fun to throw a plane, but it's also dangerous, disruptive, and disrespectful to the host venue event staff and volunteers (they have to clean it up).

The biggest takeaway here is safety. Pointy bits at speed and unprotected eyes do not mix.

There are threads from the past few years that really shine a light on more reasoning to "why not".

cadandcookies 23-04-2015 21:25

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Now the paper airplanes will never stop. Throwers have literally been encouraged by the Air Force to continue.

Hallry 23-04-2015 21:59

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Originally Posted by stinglikeabee (Post 1475320)
Please don't encourage this activity.

You should tell that to the speaker from the Air Force today at Opening Ceremonies who encouraged everyone to throw paper airplanes.

EricH 23-04-2015 22:03

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Originally Posted by Hallry (Post 1475337)
You should tell that to the speaker from the Air Force today at Opening Ceremonies who encouraged everyone to throw paper airplanes.

I'll see your Air Force speaker, and raise you one FRC director. http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...45#post1381845

sanddrag 23-04-2015 23:42

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It was literally a barrage of paper airplanes coming in down on the floor, most from nearby that were rather poorly crafted and did not fly well at all. I was hit probably a dozen times, and I was taking cover near the wall. I thought it was rather rude and unprofessional to essentially be throwing trash in the venue prior to a grand event like the opening ceremonies. Do they do this at the Olympics? Then again, our game involves an element of the alliances throwing trash at each other...

And then there were flying saucers. Yes, plates being thrown like Frisbees.

And then, the Air Force guy encouraged everyone to make and throw an airplane...

I will be honest and say though, I was mildly amused by the couple that made it all the way to the big screen on the stage, and they seemed to catch Dean and Woodie's attention (in some way, not sure which) too.

Perhaps we ought to have a one-time airplane contest on one of the days, and ban them the rest of the time.

Hallry 23-04-2015 23:45

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Originally Posted by EricH (Post 1475338)
I'll see your Air Force speaker, and raise you one FRC director. http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...45#post1381845

Oh yes, I agree with Frank's opinion, and while it is a tradition, it is a hassle to both spectators and the custodial crew. I personally have been hit by many paper airplanes while sitting on the Dome floor watching the Einstein matches in 2012 and 2013. All I'm saying is that if it is to stop, everyone must be on board, including the sponsors who speak to literally everybody in attendance.

dodar 23-04-2015 23:46

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Originally Posted by sanddrag (Post 1475362)
It was literally a barrage of paper airplanes coming in down on the floor, most from nearby that were rather poorly crafted and did not fly well at all. I was hit probably a dozen times, and I was taking cover near the wall. I thought it was rather rude and unprofessional to essentially be throwing trash in the venue prior to a grand event like the opening ceremonies. Do they do this at the Olympics?

And then there were flying saucers. Yes, plates being thrown like Frisbees.

And then, the Air Force guy encouraged everyone to make and throw an airplane...

I will be honest and say though, I was mildly amused by the couple that made it all the way to the big screen on the stage, and they seemed to catch Dean and Woodie's attention (in some way, not sure which) too.

Perhaps we ought to have a one-time airplane contest on one of the days, and ban them the rest of the time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN5iZVxnSr8

Maybe not the Olympics but still a professional sport.

Abrakadabra 23-04-2015 23:51

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Let's see - they kick everyone out of the pits at 5:30 sharp, and then rather than starting the ceremony on time at 6:00, the actual starting time gets dragged out till almost 6:30.

What do they expect thousands of idle engineering hands to do in the meantime?!?!:) :rolleyes:

OAXACA 24-04-2015 00:29

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Watching all the airplanes launch was literally the coolest thing ever.

BrennanB 24-04-2015 00:35

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Originally Posted by OAXACA (Post 1475382)
Watching all the airplanes launch was literally the coolest thing ever.

And the worst nightmare of whoever has to clean it up.

216Robochick288 24-04-2015 00:36

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Originally Posted by OAXACA (Post 1475382)
Watching all the airplanes launch was literally the coolest thing ever.


Until you cant watch them because you got hit in the eye by a rouge airplane. I was in the seats, I don't feel like I need to wear safety glasses in the seats :(

OAXACA 24-04-2015 00:43

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Originally Posted by 216Robochick288 (Post 1475386)
Until you cant watch them because you got hit in the eye by a rouge airplane. I was in the seats, I don't feel like I need to wear safety glasses in the seats :(

I'm sorry :(

Lil' Lavery 24-04-2015 00:43

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Originally Posted by dodar (Post 1475367)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN5iZVxnSr8

Maybe not the Olympics but still a professional sport.

Strictly speaking, the Calgary Hitmen are an amateur team. They are a major junior (ages 16-20) hockey team in the Western Hockey League. However, teddy bear tosses do happen at professional games as well. Sorry, I had to #hockeynerd there.

I've made my opinion known about the "safety concerns" (or lack of) regarding paper airplanes in the past. I stand by them.

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Originally Posted by BrennanB (Post 1475385)
And the worst nightmare of whoever has to clean it up.

Aside of when FIRST releases confetti after Einstein, that is. ;)

Electronica1 24-04-2015 00:49

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Ever get the feeling that the human player throwing noodles in this years game is a response to the paper airplanes last year?

BrennanB 24-04-2015 00:51

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Originally Posted by Lil' Lavery (Post 1475390)
Strictly speaking, the Calgary Hitmen are an amateur team. They are a major junior (ages 16-20) hockey team in the Western Hockey League. However, teddy bear tosses do happen at professional games as well. Sorry, I had to #hockeynerd there.



:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Lil' Lavery (Post 1475390)
Aside of when FIRST releases confetti after Einstein, that is. ;)

Aha you do bring up a point. Though they are arguably different things.

dodar 24-04-2015 01:19

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Originally Posted by BrennanB (Post 1475393)
Aha you do bring up a point. Though they are arguably different things.

Are they both not paper? :cool:

EricH 24-04-2015 01:34

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Originally Posted by dodar (Post 1475402)
Are they both not paper? :cool:

Confetti is rather more expected. It would be in the venue paperwork somewhere that "yeah, verily, we intend to release a cloud of confetti at some point during this event" and the venue would then go "Oh, yeah, these guys plan to release confetti, we'll need extra man-hours to clean that up, not a big deal" and either plan more time or plan more personnel.

Paper airplanes, on the other hand... ain't nobody gonna know they're comin' from the venue side, or at least that's what you should expect.

wireties 24-04-2015 07:25

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I had a professor in college once who said that you don't pour sidewalks where you prefer but where the grass is already gone. In other words you sometimes go with the flow even if you don't get it - human engineering.

I understand people who don't agree with the paper airplanes. Personally I think calling the throwers rude is a step too far. And are they all that dangerous, really? Plus the level of effort to pick them up is not all that crazy, nowhere near the effort to clean bathrooms etc. The airplanes are good clean, if justifiably annoying to some, fun.

Perhaps we should go with the flow and ask people to throw them at the same time? Or make a contest out of it?

Anna3098 24-04-2015 08:43

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I love the paper airplanes, I think most of us do. And yeah I don't think that the volunteers have to clean them all up, but I don't see a huge problem with them before Einstein or opening ceremonies, but it seems so tied to me when people throw them while there are people on stage speaking. It seems like it gets kind of out of hand.

jojoguy10 24-04-2015 09:09

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Originally Posted by Anna3098 (Post 1475421)
I love the paper airplanes, I think most of us do. And yeah I don't think that the volunteers have to clean them all up, but I don't see a huge problem with them before Einstein or opening ceremonies, but it seems so tied to me when people throw them while there are people on stage speaking. It seems like it gets kind of out of hand.

100% agree!

MechEng83 24-04-2015 10:41

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Someone from the upper deck just threw a plane onto Newton field at the end of match 68. Completely unacceptable! They should be ejected from the arena.

the_godfaubel 24-04-2015 11:03

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Originally Posted by MechEng83 (Post 1475447)
Someone from the upper deck just threw a plane onto Newton field at the end of match 68.

Did it count for 4 points? :D

planetbrilliant 24-04-2015 11:29

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Originally Posted by MechEng83 (Post 1475447)
Someone from the upper deck just threw a plane onto Newton field at the end of match 68. Completely unacceptable! They should be ejected from the arena.

I feel like that's the main issue with the paper airplanes: when they land on the field. Keeping them in the stands is okay, but they can still get difficult to control. It's all in good fun but fun can still have consequences.

Tom Line 24-04-2015 11:34

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Originally Posted by planetbrilliant (Post 1475451)
I feel like that's the main issue with the paper airplanes: when they land on the field. Keeping them in the stands is okay, but they can still get difficult to control. It's all in good fun but fun can still have consequences.

Not difficult to control if you have control of your team. Last year someone thought it would be funny to dump a load of shredded paper from the upper deck. The real question is-how did the mentors not know?

I love the airplanes. I have a problem with teams not watching their members.

dmaggio744 24-04-2015 12:10

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its only gonna be a problem in the 2016 water game, because the staff will have to fish out all the soggy paper airplanes from the field.

planetbrilliant 24-04-2015 12:12

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Originally Posted by Tom Line (Post 1475452)
Not difficult to control if you have control of your team. Last year someone thought it would be funny to dump a load of shredded paper from the upper deck. The real question is-how did the mentors not know?

I love the airplanes. I have a problem with teams not watching their members.

Yeah, that makes sense. It's likely that maybe some team members split up from the team, but that's a different issue altogether regarding keeping track of ones team.
I remember last year our chief mentor told everyone on our team to pick up as many paper airplanes as they threw, to try to take care of at least some of the waste.

lamk 24-04-2015 22:01

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I actually love the airplanes and I miss coming to St. Louis this week. For personal reason I was not able to come with my team despite this is our most successful year and I am the main mentor and sponsor.

One simple way to deal with the "litter" is to place multiple green recycle container in each section of the dome and have a small competition just before the ceremony start to see which section can put all their "litter" into the green recycling container the fastest.

Hallry 24-04-2015 22:06

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Originally Posted by lamk (Post 1475549)
One simple way to deal with the "litter" is to place multiple green recycle container in each section of the dome and have a small competition just before the ceremony start to see which section can put all their "litter" into the green recycling container the fastest.

I foresee many spectators and team members getting trampled during this...

cadandcookies 24-04-2015 22:10

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To clarify, volunteers do not pick up the airplanes. In fact, when we started we were told to stop because there was a union that took care of it.

lamk 24-04-2015 23:22

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Originally Posted by Hallry (Post 1475550)
I foresee many spectators and team members getting trampled during this...

OOps, you are probably right.

Jay Trzaskos 25-04-2015 16:09

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Airplanes are one thing, but I think we can all agree that throwing large, tightly wadded rolls of paper towels into the stands isn't a good idea, right?

#LitterAgreement

BethMo 25-04-2015 16:27

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I just saw a neat circular one make it to the middle of the field, and then another of the same design all the way past the field.

the duderoni 25-04-2015 16:38

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If you're legitimately upset by people having fun by throwing some paper airplanes, you should probably find something to be more concerned about.

Also, this kind of stuff totally happens in actual sports - not that we need to try and be like a professional sport. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtE7eFcKvvs

Ben Wolsieffer 25-04-2015 16:54

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Someone threw a plane onto Einstein Mass during the match countdown. :(

Robby Unruh 25-04-2015 17:04

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Originally Posted by the duderoni (Post 1475835)
If you're legitimately upset by people having fun by throwing some paper airplanes, you should probably find something to be more concerned about.

Also, this kind of stuff totally happens in actual sports - not that we need to try and be like a professional sport. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtE7eFcKvvs

You're looking at this all wrong. Of course we have better things to care about. It's about respecting the teams on the field and the staff that are going to have to pick that crap up.

George A. 25-04-2015 17:15

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Its all fun until one lands on a field after the match starts....

Jeanne Boyarsky 25-04-2015 22:49

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Originally Posted by Jay Trzaskos (Post 1475811)
Airplanes are one thing, but I think we can all agree that throwing large, tightly wadded rolls of paper towels into the stands isn't a good idea, right?

#LitterAgreement

Yes!

I tweeted today that I was sitting in a paper airplane flight path. I don't mind that I got hit many times by them and grazed on my cheek once. After all, this happened because I has a great seat:)

I do mind that I got hit in the back by a foam stress ball toy plane. I get that it was thrown as a joke. And it didn't hurt. But it felt like a bit much

Nathan_H 25-04-2015 23:24

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I personally quite enjoyed seeing the airplanes. The only problem I have with them is when they're made out of an entire newspaper section. Those things can get pretty heavy, and when they get airborne for a while they get up to good speeds. A couple landed near me before the Einstein matches. Thankfully they only hit my shoes...

Mr. Rip 25-04-2015 23:31

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Airplane throwing got out of hand. It was fun while we waited for the Einstein playoffs to start. It was an unnecessary nuisance the remainder of the afternoon and detracted from the proceedings.

I asked my students to stop throwing. I wish others had done the same.

If you that think it is all in good fun, please encourage your students to throw paper products during all FIRST events.

Scott Rippetoe

George A. 26-04-2015 00:13

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http://imgur.com/oEJoulQ

http://imgur.com/UyxYex6

http://imgur.com/4WFTKk7

These are 3 pictures I took on my way out after the last finals match. The number of people I saw slip on the paper was absurd. I've been to numerous professional sporting events and this was worse than all of them. As other have said paper airplanes are one thing. But airplanes made out of an entire Championship Brochure, folded poster board, or even just throwing random heaps of paper over the edge isn't fun. Its immature and incredibly disrespectful to those sitting below. Some of the airplanes even had chewed gum holding them together....


/rant

protoserge 26-04-2015 00:32

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That is so disrespectful to the venue. We are part of the FIRST family. We share the principles of Gracious Professionalism. Making a mess for others to clean up is not Gracious Professionalism. Annoying the thousands of fellow FIRSTers watching the event proceedings by hitting them with a barrage of paper is not Gracious Professionalism. Creating an unneccesary safety risk is not Gracious Professionalism.

Do we even need to have this argument anymore?

Please. No more paper airplane throwing.

Lead by example.

orangemoore 26-04-2015 00:34

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Originally Posted by George A. (Post 1476159)
http://imgur.com/oEJoulQ

http://imgur.com/UyxYex6

http://imgur.com/4WFTKk7

These are 3 pictures I took on my way out after the last finals match. The number of people I saw slip on the paper was absurd. I've been to numerous professional sporting events and this was worse than all of them. As other have said paper airplanes are one thing. But airplanes made out of an entire Championship Brochure, folded poster board, or even just throwing random heaps of paper over the edge isn't fun. Its immature and incredibly disrespectful to those sitting below. Some of the airplanes even had chewed gum holding them together....


/rant

I think it was excessive. It should stop but how will it?

Koko Ed 26-04-2015 04:58

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I apologized to the poor guy who had to clean it up saying that this isn't what FIRST is about. He said it was all good. You guys need to start thinking about your actions and who it affects. How would you feel if you had to clean up that mess and planes just kept coming down?

Koko Ed 26-04-2015 05:05

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Originally Posted by Anna3098 (Post 1475421)
I love the paper airplanes, I think most of us do. And yeah I don't think that the volunteers have to clean them all up, but I don't see a huge problem with them before Einstein or opening ceremonies, but it seems so tied to me when people throw them while there are people on stage speaking. It seems like it gets kind of out of hand.

Some of the volunteers were shoveling paper airplanes to the side to move game pieces to tear down.

Anna3098 26-04-2015 07:23

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Originally Posted by Koko Ed (Post 1476196)
I apologized to the poor guy who had to clean it up saying that this isn't what FIRST is about. He said it was all good. You guys need to start thinking about your actions and who it affects. How would you feel if you had to clean up that mess and planes just kept coming down?

I brought this up to the rest of my team and they literally said "they aren't that hard to clean up, the just take a big broom and they have to clean the stands anyway." That seemed surprisingly disrespectful coming from them. I feel so awful for the people that take time out of their day trying to do us a service and end up having to pick up airplanes. Honestly I think FIRST should release some kind of serious statement about it next year - not just "please don't throw paper airplanes."

sanddrag 26-04-2015 07:52

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Originally Posted by Anna3098 (Post 1476208)
I brought this up to the rest of my team and they literally said "they aren't that hard to clean up, the just take a big broom and they have to clean the stands anyway." That seemed surprisingly disrespectful coming from them. I feel so awful for the people that take time out of their day trying to do us a service and end up having to pick up airplanes. Honestly I think FIRST should release some kind of serious statement about it next year - not just "please don't throw paper airplanes."

It's hard to undo an Air Force official " ordering" everyone to throw planes.

And it wasn't just the planes. There was all sorts of trash including food trash all over the place. It reflected poorly on our program. It sends the message of "thanks for hosting us in your city, hopefully you've got someone to clean up our mess when we leave"

Qcom 26-04-2015 08:04

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I'm bringing this up here because I haven't seen it discussed.

If this is such a problem, why doesn't FIRST put a message on the screen before Einstein starts? The vast majority of kids at these events are not the rulebreaker type. And though I loath to say it, many mentors would crack down on airplane throwing out of fear of the all seeing judges nixing their chairman's award at the last moment.

Anupam Goli 26-04-2015 08:33

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Think of the airplanes as trash and litter in a different form. That's right, whenever you throw a plane, you're littering. Even worse, you're making your trash someone else's responsibility. Also some of these less aerodynamic planes really nosedive and accelerate, making them a safety concern. In a game themed with recycling, it would be nice to see someone recycle their unused program instead of turning them into planes and littering them onto the dome floor and in the stands.

I'm proud to say no one on my team even thought about throwing an airplane, because they all thought it was childish and was annoying. That, and I jokingly threatened to kick some of them off the team ;)

GaryVoshol 26-04-2015 08:37

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Several years ago in Atlanta I thanked a maintenance worker and asked how we compared to a typical football crowd. "Oh, much better!"

I haven't had the opportunity to go to St. Louis because of school and work, but I really hope that is still the case - that FIRST is much better than a typical football crowd. If not, we need to make it happen again!

Jay Trzaskos 26-04-2015 09:08

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Originally Posted by Jay Trzaskos (Post 1475811)
Airplanes are one thing, but I think we can all agree that throwing large, tightly wadded rolls of paper towels into the stands isn't a good idea, right?

#LitterAgreement

http://imgur.com/rgqjMzH

These both landed within 3 feet of me in the VIP lounge prior to Einstein. What kind of message is that sending to our invited guests? Just for reference, the smaller of the two is larger than a softball, and that was only two of many.

I also saw a team dump what appeared to be their entire events worth of scouting data from the upper deck. A large portion of which landed in the judges seating section.

protoserge 26-04-2015 09:16

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Originally Posted by Qcom (Post 1476216)
I'm bringing this up here because I haven't seen it discussed.

If this is such a problem, why doesn't FIRST put a message on the screen before Einstein starts? The vast majority of kids at these events are not the rulebreaker type. And though I loath to say it, many mentors would crack down on airplane throwing out of fear of the all seeing judges nixing their chairman's award at the last moment.

FIRST expects us to self-monitor and hold ourselves accountable for our actions. We need to set the example.

Again, our mess being "not as bad as a football game" should not be used as an excuse to trash the place. Would you leave your trash in the stands too? It's no different than throwing paper airplanes, wads of paper, or any other object. Think about it.

GreyingJay 28-04-2015 09:24

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When I left the stands I made sure to clean up all of my own food and drink garbage, then I grabbed a popcorn bucket that someone sitting beside me had left behind, and I crammed into that as many paper airplanes as I could grab off the floor on my way out.

I participated in throwing some of those planes so I figured the least I could do was pick up more than I tossed.

In retrospect I should have set a better example by not throwing planes in the first place, AND asking my students to each grab a pile to throw out on their way out.

Tinmint1 28-04-2015 09:47

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I think throwing the planes at an appropriate time is fine and fun. During the time that a speaker is talking about something serious or personal is not cool. Also the ones made out of anything other than printer paper or line paper hurt.

Using first brochures that could be used for outreach is in my opinion a stupid move those could be used more constructively. My team loves getting their hands on first brochures to use when we talk to people at events and wasting those make zero sense to my team.

Tungrus 28-04-2015 11:02

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I got hit in my eyes, the plane glided right into my eyes from side, I had no idea it was coming. Some of these "planes" were not planes or gliders, they were just missiles. I don't know how many elderly people get hit with these stupid flying things and what will trigger FIRST to ban them. I don't believe if it will stop anytime soon. It seems Boeing, a sponsor was teaching how to make paper plane or something to that effect and one of the guest speaker mentioned he will give job to those who threw it close to VIPs (some thing to that effect). Fun should not come at the cost of others' safety or peace. Hope no one got seriously injured.

bigbeezy 28-04-2015 11:13

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One landed right in front of us while placing a stack on Einstein Semis...

For how awesome Einstein is and how well done everything looks and feels. Seeing a bunch of trash lying around really kills it. I also noticed when leaving the stands later that because of the airplanes (a.k.a. trash) people felt compelled to leave their own trash (food, drinks, candy wrappers, etc.) on the ground as well. Its embarrassing. :o

Thank you to the mentors who made sure your teams policed their areas and cleaned up after themselves.

Andrew Schreiber 28-04-2015 11:20

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Originally Posted by stinglikeabee (Post 1476171)
That is so disrespectful to the venue. We are part of the FIRST family. We share the principles of Gracious Professionalism. Making a mess for others to clean up is not Gracious Professionalism. Annoying the thousands of fellow FIRSTers watching the event proceedings by hitting them with a barrage of paper is not Gracious Professionalism. Creating an unneccesary safety risk is not Gracious Professionalism.

Do we even need to have this argument anymore?

Please. No more paper airplane throwing.

Lead by example.

Can we lead by example and pick up the food I see left in the stands AT EVERY EVENT? The airplanes are pretty easy to clean up from the dome floor. The food in the stands? Not only is it gross, it's much harder to clean up because someone has to walk the stands.

Pauline Tasci 28-04-2015 11:30

Re: Airplanes. Airplanes everywhere!
 
Honestly, these airplanes need to stop. It is a pain not only for everyone in the stands (especially the lower levels who get hit with them) but for the people on the field needing to push them out of the way.
This is mass littering and sure it's fun to see your plane make it down to Einstein, but think about every single person who now has to stay 2 hours extra because you threw a plane.

Gweiss96 28-04-2015 11:35

Re: Airplanes. Airplanes everywhere!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BrennanB (Post 1475261)
Or we don't encourage mass littering?

It's worth 1 point if you move it to your landfill...

216Robochick288 28-04-2015 12:26

Re: Airplanes. Airplanes everywhere!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bigbeezy (Post 1477780)
One landed right in front of us while placing a stack on Einstein Semis...


Head ref- "Hmm I'm sorry this stack of 6 and the RC and trash doesn't count as scored because there is an airplane under it"

I horribly wish that it would have happened and a match would have to be replayed just so FIRST would have to address the problem :(

Scott Morgan 28-04-2015 13:05

Re: Airplanes. Airplanes everywhere!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay Trzaskos (Post 1476234)
http://imgur.com/rgqjMzH

These both landed within 3 feet of me in the VIP lounge prior to Einstein. What kind of message is that sending to our invited guests? Just for reference, the smaller of the two is larger than a softball, and that was only two of many.

I also saw a team dump what appeared to be their entire events worth of scouting data from the upper deck. A large portion of which landed in the judges seating section.

Someone dumped their scouting sheets on us last year. We recovered their sheet for us, which was not filled out. Safe to say we were impressed.

Anyways, I'm anti-plane. You shouldn't be making a mess that other people will have to clean up.


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