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This year in the reveal video FIRST seemed to lean to how much they wanted people to not only use pool noodles but to pick them up with the robots. In this season I personally did not see a single robot do this and I would not be surprised if this made Dean a bit disappointed. So I am thinking for the 2016 game he may try and reuse the pool noodles and make the game more focused on them. Thoughts?
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I would be surprised... Did you notice how they break up so easily? Would make such a huge mess on the field, and they would have to replace them more often
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Shooting noodles into goals.
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Ultimate assist played on Lunacy flooring with bridges and towers
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In response to the glaring lack of interaction (aka violence) in this year's game FIRST will bring back violence and then some by having robots be the goal/target and score as many hit points as possible on opposing robots. Bonus points for making hard contact dents with bumper to bumper interaction. There will even be an endgame where teams deploy drones to attack drive teams with Nerf darts. Human players armed with baseball bat will stand ready to swat marauding drones from the sky.
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Let me guess:
Hockey Game Football Game Water Game :rolleyes: |
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Oh man, my favorite kind of thread.
I think its going to be every game played in the history of FIRST combined. Get ready for 30 minute matches. |
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Hovercraft. And they must be maneuvered through a figure-eight race course with an elevated ramp on one section so the robots must jump the gap. Bonus points will be awarded if you drive through a human station and add various size weights between laps.
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They may add more action which I personally would love to see however something that would be hilarious is having to catch hollow Frisbees on pool noodles
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2011 was the 20th anniversary of FRC, so they had a FIRST-based game. Scoring the FIRST logo gave you bonus points, and the addition of mini-bots was to try to get FRC teams to work with FTC teams.
2015's game hint showed all the previous games being played, but didn't recycle the games. Because 2016 will be the 25th anniversary of FRC, a "landmark year", I think we see a combination of previous game elements. Here's hoping for a 2009 playing field and wheels, playing the 2008 game with 2015 litter, divided in half with 2012 co-op bridges, and 2011 minibots climbing the 2013 pyramid. What, not a good idea? |
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The pool noodles would be great for a water game |
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Damaged mechanism: 10 points Damaged drivetrain: 20 points Damaged motor: 30 points Damaged motor controller: 40 points Damaged RoboRIO: 50 points Damaged battery: 50 points and a $75 clean-up fine for the damaged team In addition, teams are given a five minute period after the end of the match to repair as much damage as they can. You earn the same points for fixing something as you would for damaging it. This provides incentives for elite teams to cripple themselves in a match, evening out the playing field during the course of play. |
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Recycle rush under water and the pool noodles have to be used for robot buoyancy.
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1.89kg X 2.2=4.16 lbs 1 foot of 3.5" diameter pool noodle should float about a 4lb piece of metal on top of the noodle. 120/4=30. So about 30 1 foot long 3.5" diameter pool noodles. |
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Did anybody else notice the tetras in the background during the reveal? I bet it'll be Triple Play 2: Robotic Boogaloo.
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FIRST games in recent years have followed the FTC game the year prior. I'm expecting us to see a lot of small balls on the field (Tennis or Squash) and a relatively open field. There will be defense, and something to put the balls in. Tote maybe? Also there will be high goals like 2013. This is just a guess, but looking at previous games compared to FTC I'd be surprised if this isn't at least a little accurate.
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I just want noodles as launch-able game pieces. Preferably requiring them to travel at least 1/2 the field with considerable accuracy.
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Given the fact that this year's game had pool noodles, I'm guessing a pool will be part of next years game. The pool noodles were just training for next year's game where you have to pick up pool noodles while inside a pool.
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It would be especially interesting if they also had ramps or platforms that teams had to climb over. |
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This thread is called "Possibility for 2016 Game"...Yes I think there will be a game in 2016:rolleyes: :D
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2016 Football game would be amazing, it'll make senior year so much fun!
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Here's the next game. It's part of a campaign by FIRST to teach teenagers how to pick up after themselves.
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Folding towels? How about folding two at the same time!:D |
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My personal hope is that they use Recycle Rush++, in which the robots must pick up the pool noodles, and are permitted to use tote cannons. The tote cannons would shoot totes onto the other side of the field and knock down the other alliance's stacks.
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Next years game is going to be something involving triangles or 3's. Look at the buttons they give out with each game; Aerial Assist, the button was a circle, there was a large circular ball. Recycle rush, the button is a square, there were squarish boxes that we had to stack. FIRST probably wants to have next years button be a triangle to make the first logo with all 3 buttons. This means that the game piece will be something with a triangle. If it is FIRST's 25 anniversary in 2016 and they want to use old game pieces then maybe they want to replay Triple Play or make a triangle game.
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One game that I would love to do in the next few years would be golf :) I am not so sure if it would work well...
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Wheels aren't allowed. You must make a flying robot.
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The PE teacher in me is hoping for robotics dodgeball.
Dodge Duck Dip Dive and Dodge... with robots. |
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On that happy note, I may have my in-class robotics challenge for next year.
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Or require robots to display a KOP included target in all four directions in an unobstructed way. Make that worth more points than the robot frame itself. This could also encourage more vision tracking systems and first-person onboard cameras.
This challenge could also include points awarded for catching balls that hit you before they hit the floor, in true dodgeball form. I find that idea intriguing if only because it turns the robots into the targets. |
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How about a game of 8 ball? Pool is about as close to a water game as we will likely get. :yikes:
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Definitely going to be FRC Battlebots next year
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I remember during the 2011 lead-up I was very excited with all of the speculation involving trains. I had it in my head that the game was going to be one where there was no steering, all robots were on rails (think roller coaster track) and there would be heavy focus on object manipulation. Every year since, I have hoped for a game involving trains, if only for the sheer largely-impractical glory of it.
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I'm still holding out for skee ball with bowling balls of different (hidden) weights with a ball balancing aspect for the end game.
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This would also help with the lack of emphasis on good programming that's been discussed in other threads recently. |
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I speculate the game will have something to do with this game being the 25th anniversary. Maize Craze reboot with Roombas instead of corn?
But seriously, I think there will be references to some (or all!) past games. |
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I think ball game with 2007-esque end game.
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Whatever the next game is, I think Dean should get the guys from BattleBots to do a show just before Einsteins.
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The last 2 years reused similar game pieces
2nd yoga ball game in 2014 2nd tote game (totes were slightly different) in 2015 Can we see Frisbees or Soccer Balls in the next years? |
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Going back to the topic at hand, most of previous year's games that were interesting to watch were somewhat based off of real sports, such as basketball or soccer. The game has to be both feasible for rookie teams and a challenge for the heavyweights, and by basing it off a real life sport, which also have to be interesting on both a casual and professional level, seems like the most effective strategy for the GDC. When you go through the list of non-contact sports that are popular in the world, volleyball/tennis seems like the next contender for the robot game. It would also likely address some of the concerns about programming not being emphasized enough in FIRST, as many vision tracking robots are likely to be seen at comps if this happens.
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For some reason, I have the odd feeling that FIRST will introduce a programming challenge that is new to FRC this year (i.e. not vision tracking but something equally challenging)
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Some programming challenges that are common in FRC and FTC are reflective tape and IR beacons. Both of these are used every year now, some more useful than others (who used the reflective tape on the auto totes this year?). I hope to see more programming challenges in FRC, as there is potential. |
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Dont want to sound like a heckler, but are you just pulling ideas out of the blue, or is there actual evidence? From the way i see it, FRC makes sure that every game is a surprise, and everything can change. While i am extremely ecstatic about robotics 2016, i dont think we'll get anywhere with random guesses.
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I'll make this short: As soon as the season is over and the offseasons begin, various people start spreading rumors and speculating with absolutely no basis in fact on what the next game will be. Happens every year, regular as clockwork (though some folks try to start it early...). Every now and again, Frank (the Director of FRC) will drop "non-hints" in the FRC blog (such as the fact that he knows what the game is), which fuel said rumors and speculations. 'Long about registration, someone asks when the hint will come out (answer: sometime in December by tradition). The hint is the official "guess the game, good luck" red herring. If we're (un)lucky, we get more than one. But until Kickoff, nobody* knows what the game will be. *Unless you count the GDC and whoever has to build field elements--but if you can actually pry it out of them early, they won't be doing that for very long. |
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To look at the amount of scoring options, compare Cascade Effect to Recycle Rush. Cascade Effect had the most autonomous options I have ever seen in a game. You earned points for moving down a ramp, placing a ball in one or two rolling goals, moving 1-3 rolling goals into your zone, placing a ball in the center goal, and knocking over the kickstand. Recycle Rush you earned points for moving all three robots to the auto zone, moving three RCs to the auto zone, moving all three auto totes into the zone, and stacking all three auto totes in the zone. For scoring in general, FRC usually focuses on one element where FTC offers multiple objectives. Recycle Rush was entirely dependent on stacking totes. There were teams that specialized in capping, but they couldn't do much if they didn't have a stack to cap. Aeriel Assist was entierly scoring a ball. Ultimate Ascent had two options, Frisbees and pyramid. Cascade Effect had scoring balls into tubes and pushing goals around. Block Party had scoring blocks into a teeter-totter, spinning a crank shaft, and lifting your robot off the ground. Ring-it-Up had a tic-tac-toe peg score board to place rings, weighted rings for a score multiplyer, and lifting your partner up. FTC has been sort of a "testing grounds" for FRC. Some examples of this include an extra partner for finals and using two fields (MSC 2015). When it comes to autonomous features, IR beacons have been used in FTC the last few years just as reflective tape has been used in FRC. Both are staples in each game, some years being more useful than others. This year Recycle Rush had the weakest use of reflective tape. The totes started in a set position, so teams used that in their programming. Teams would have used the tape more if the totes were in random places. I hope I have answered your concerns. |
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In the spirit of these types of threads, I haven't read anything in this thread except the first and last pages, but I'd like to pose an idea that I consider original but that somebody mentioned a few pages back. ::rtm::
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I know! Lets play aerial assist again, but with frisbees! ... or totes!
We get to fling the totes across the field, just like everyone wanted to this year! Or we get to try to catch frisbees, which would mean no driving for half the match chasing it, as it would sit still on the ground! EDIT: Going through old threads someone pointed something out. This year we will have to lift robots as 2007, 2010, and 2013 involved lifting robots as an endgame, so 2016 could continue this pattern. |
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That's cool, I hope it's true :)
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On another note, it appears that the Average Joes (3620) are thinking the next game might be called Laundry Launch. |
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