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tickspe15 22-05-2015 18:40

Re: Which robot(s) did you like the best this year?
 
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Originally Posted by Bryce2471 (Post 1483666)
I am very surprised that 1678 is getting so (relatively) few votes. In my opinion, they were by far the best team of the season. They found what was ultimately important very early, and made their season revolve around it.

I'm sure that somewhere in Northern California 1678 is wiping their tears with all the blue banners they have amassed.

evanperryg 22-05-2015 19:26

Re: Which robot(s) did you like the best this year?
 
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Originally Posted by Knufire (Post 1483665)
I'd argue the opposite. Their robot is a perfect example of a successful implementation of the strategic design process, and that's why it's also my favorite of this year.

I'd agree with that, but the complexity of it is staggering. I don't think I've ever seen another FRC robot (besides 118) with such complicated mechanisms throughout the entire machine. Their entire design was incredibly ambitious, and incredibly well executed.

Also, I'd like to point out another of my favorite robots this year- 1625. The amount they improved from their first event was very impressive.

JohnChristensen 22-05-2015 20:03

Re: Which robot(s) did you like the best this year?
 
My favorite two teams this year were 2826 and 1986. I thought 1986 was an underrated landfill bot (plus I am always impressed by their robots). 2826 had their obviously amazing auto, but most importantly I think garbage trucks are really cool and picking up three cans at one time is something the drivers for Waste Management can only dream of...

avanboekel 22-05-2015 21:15

Re: Which robot(s) did you like the best this year?
 
1114 was my favorite to watch this year. The way they could drive however they wanted without wrecking their stacks was one of the highlights of this game for me. The speed at which they cleared the landfill was incredible.

Likewise, 2826 set the standard for HP loading. The nature of the game made their playstyle more "boring", but was still one of my favorite robots this year.

billylo 23-05-2015 14:44

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logank013 23-05-2015 20:50

Re: Which robot(s) did you like the best this year?
 
I still believe after watching many matches at nationals that 254 had the best robot despite the sad ending for them. 148 definitely had the most interesting design of all and, it was pretty much just as good as 254's bot. I still feel like 254 won slightly between the 2. I also think that 1114 had the best design for a landfill bot but it started to fail them there at the end. Worlds is about whose robot can last the whole season and still be good. Unfortunately, their robot just couldn't last that many matches. 118 had a robot that was almost as good as Simbotics bot but because it held up all the way through worlds, it ending up winning. All in all, here are my ranks.

Human Player:
1. 254
2. 148

Landfill:
1. 1114
2. 118

Overall:
1. 254
2. 1114
3. 148
4. 118

Sperkowsky 23-05-2015 21:00

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Originally Posted by logank013 (Post 1483845)
I still believe after watching many matches at nationals that 254 had the best robot despite the sad ending for them. 148 definitely had the most interesting design of all and, it was pretty much just as good as 254's bot. I still feel like 254 won slightly between the 2. I also think that 1114 had the best design for a landfill bot but it started to fail them there at the end. Worlds is about whose robot can last the whole season and still be good. Unfortunately, their robot just couldn't last that many matches. 118 had a robot that was almost as good as Simbotics bot but because it held up all the way through worlds, it ending up winning. All in all, here are my ranks.

Human Player:
1. 254
2. 148

Landfill:
1. 1114
2. 118

Overall:
1. 254
2. 1114
3. 148
4. 118

Your game robot analysis seems a bit odd. Honestly I wasn't that impressed with 254 this year not saying they didn't make an amazing bot but I never thought they were going to Einstein. 1114, 118, 1678, 2826, 1657, 148, 179, 4488, 4039, 971, and 1538 are just some of the bots that I think had a way better design then 254 this year. I love 254 but I think after 2 years of making the community go crazy they missed their mark a bit.

logank013 23-05-2015 21:04

Re: Which robot(s) did you like the best this year?
 
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Originally Posted by Sperkowsky (Post 1483847)
Your game analysis seems a bit odd. Honestly I wasn't that impressed with 254 this year not saying they didn't make an amazing bot but I never thought they were going to Einstein. 1114, 118, 1678, 2826, 1657, 148, 179, 4488, 4039, 971, and 1538 are just some of the bots that I think had a way better design then 254 this year. I love 254 but I think after 2 years of making the community go crazy they missed their mark a bit.

Every match I watched 254, they were super efficient and consistently made 4 stacks like 148 would. The ramp was a great idea even though it was stolen from 2056 I believe. I thought that they could have been a contender to make it to the semis on Einstein.

MichaelBick 23-05-2015 21:18

Re: Which robot(s) did you like the best this year?
 
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Originally Posted by Sperkowsky (Post 1483847)
Your game robot analysis seems a bit odd. Honestly I wasn't that impressed with 254 this year not saying they didn't make an amazing bot but I never thought they were going to Einstein. 1114, 118, 1678, 2826, 1657, 148, 179, 4488, 4039, 971, and 1538 are just some of the bots that I think had a way better design then 254 this year. I love 254 but I think after 2 years of making the community go crazy they missed their mark a bit.

I'm not sure there was anybody more consistent at making 4 stacks a match capped than 254, especially considering the fact that they were also doing the co-op

logank013 23-05-2015 21:21

Re: Which robot(s) did you like the best this year?
 
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Originally Posted by MichaelBick (Post 1483852)
I'm not sure there was anybody more consistent at make 4 stacks a match capped than 254, especially considering the fact that they were also doing the co-op

Agreed. I forgot about how they did Co-op too.

tindleroot 24-05-2015 00:00

Re: Which robot(s) did you like the best this year?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sperkowsky (Post 1483847)
Your game robot analysis seems a bit odd. Honestly I wasn't that impressed with 254 this year not saying they didn't make an amazing bot but I never thought they were going to Einstein. 1114, 118, 1678, 2826, 1657, 148, 179, 4488, 4039, 971, and 1538 are just some of the bots that I think had a way better design then 254 this year. I love 254 but I think after 2 years of making the community go crazy they missed their mark a bit.

I agreed with this completely...until SVR happened. Since then, 254 has blown me away by their abilities. No team, I repeat, NO TEAM, can score over 200 points BY THEMSELVES as consistently as 254 can. 254, time and time again, has scored 20+42+42+36+36+40=216 (given their opponent completes Co-op), hence their average over 200 at their final events. For them not to make it at LEAST to Einstein semifinals I thought was crazy - until it happened. Regardless, their robot made me "go crazy" after they improved for SVR.

Tom Bottiglieri 24-05-2015 00:24

Re: Which robot(s) did you like the best this year?
 
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Originally Posted by Sperkowsky (Post 1483847)
Your game robot analysis seems a bit odd. Honestly I wasn't that impressed with 254 this year not saying they didn't make an amazing bot but I never thought they were going to Einstein. 1114, 118, 1678, 2826, 1657, 148, 179, 4488, 4039, 971, and 1538 are just some of the bots that I think had a way better design then 254 this year. I love 254 but I think after 2 years of making the community go crazy they missed their mark a bit.

Huh?

dodar 24-05-2015 00:41

Re: Which robot(s) did you like the best this year?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Bottiglieri (Post 1483895)
Huh?

I read his post then saw you literally had the same reaction as me.

254 built an Einstein caliber robot this year; like they do most years.

Bryce2471 24-05-2015 00:49

Re: Which robot(s) did you like the best this year?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by logank013 (Post 1483850)
Every match I watched 254, they were super efficient and consistently made 4 stacks like 148 would. The ramp was a great idea even though it was stolen from 2056 I believe. I thought that they could have been a contender to make it to the semis on Einstein.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Bottiglieri (Post 1483895)
Huh?

I had a similar response to reading this.

I would argue that 254's performance at SVR might have been the most dominant robot performance in the history of FRC. I haven't been around long enough to say for sure, but I can't imagine a robot that would be so much better than the competition.

I also don't have the numbers readily available, but I would be willing to bet that 254's OPR from SVR, put on a scale of standard deviation, would be the greatest outlier in FRC of all time.

dodar 24-05-2015 00:56

Re: Which robot(s) did you like the best this year?
 
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Originally Posted by Bryce2471 (Post 1483897)
I had a similar response to reading this.

I would argue that 254's performance at SVR might have been the most dominant robot performance in the history of FRC. I haven't been around long enough to say for sure, but I can't imagine a robot that would be so much better than the competition.

I also don't have the numbers readily available, but I would be willing to bet that 254's OPR from SVR, put on a scale of standard deviation, would be the greatest outlier in FRC of all time.

From what I've seen from people on here and the few videos around, 71 from 2002 is considered the most dominant. Since you say you've been around since 2007, just as I am, you should remember 1114 from 2008. I would place 254's performance this year behind both of those.


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