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I would say next best landfill because most of the feeder robots can put up at least 2 full stacks.

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Well if you look at the next best landfill robots: (1310, 3130, 1756, etc.), they can all make 2 stacks/match, and you're likely to get one of them in the second round. While the next best feeder robots are making 3 stacks/match.

So it depends on whether you believe you can get a good enough landfill machine in the second round, if you need specific attributes (tote stack auto, can grabbers), or if you think you need the consistency at the human player station more.

It also depends on whether teams have good scouting (and I've talked to a number of very good teams who don't have any scouting planned for IRI because they don't have the manpower. :yikes:)

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those teams should glean inspiration from here http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...hreadid=137681

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You will see a ton of 300+ scores at IRI because they're adding a couple hundred extra points worth of green bins to the field. Virtually every team there can stack and cap, so seeing 7 or even 8 capped six stacks shouldn't be unexpected.

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When did +2 cans equal a couple hundred points? I think we'll definitely see a fair share of 300 point matches, but I'd be willing to say there will be a lot more that fall around 294.

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You mean +4. There have been dozens of matches that totaled more than 200 where at least 4 RCs were used.

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+2 cans plus the all stars of the game can definitely makes 300+ points possible
obv not every match but many and definitely playoffs

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I'm not sure I'm following you. I was under the impression we were talking about individual alliance scores. If you want to group entire match scores, the 300 point mark got broken awhile ago.

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I think DareDad was talking about the whole field but I think I was misunderstanding him also because 4 cans would still be worth only 168 points at most.

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My bad. I was thinking there were 3 additional cans added per side, plus I was exaggerating a bit because the new cans are essentially available without effort.

But as for 300, the "bad" teams at IRI can put up 2 capped six stacks so at an alliance level, 42*6 or 252 is almost a baseline score. Add a 20 to 28 point auton and you're up at 270-280. If an alliance has one robot that can put up a third capped six stack it's over 300.

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In reality you only have 5 cans available to your side easily; the first hurdle will be retrieving more cans from the step.

Many teams who can make 2-3 stacks do so with the already available cans, so even with the ones from the step teams have to manipulate those to whatever orientation they need and then proceed to stacking.

Furthermore, landfill robots are scarce, so often you will find a qualification alliance with three HP loading robots (or possibly vice versa, maybe you get multiple landfillers while there are only 3 stacks worth in the landfill). Such an alliance is limited to how much they can stack as an alliance as well.

I think 300 will definitely be broken multiple times, but I don't think it will be as often as some may think. Combined with the usual IRI factors like new drive teams, robot degradation over the season, etc. it will be a rare but exciting feat when it does happen.

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I predict there will be 7 games that are 300+ points.

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After doing th match, it seems that there are forty some double can burglars at IRI. Getting the two cans on the right every match should be simple. I bet most matches, each side will have 7 cans as long as they lign someone up to get the cans on the right.

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How many single can burglars (I count three so far [1741, 5188, 1720])

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Yeah. I messed that up. There are 26 Double can Burglars and 7 Single Can Burglars.

the 8 singles are 1024, 1720, 1741, and 5188 have consistent 1 step can autos
the 4 not so consistent robots are 5254, 2614, 2337, and 217

1024 is 1 can for IRI rules due to the fact they grab the 2 center cans