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carpedav000 11-07-2015 13:41

Re: IRI Predictions
 
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Originally Posted by logank013 (Post 1489694)
Yeah. I messed that up. There are 26 Double can Burglars and 7 Single Can Burglars.

the 8 singles are 1024, 1720, 1741, and 5188 have consistent 1 step can autos
the 4 not so consistent robots are 5254, 2614, 2337, and 217

1024 is 1 can for IRI rules due to the fact they grab the 2 center cans

I dont think 1024 is going to be using their burglars.

logank013 11-07-2015 13:46

Re: IRI Predictions
 
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Originally Posted by carpedav000 (Post 1489698)
I dont think 1024 is going to be using their burglars.

I don't see why not. Just take away the right can burglar (since they back up) and run the same auto. Or keep the right can burglar and change the auto, then, they would be able to scoop up the center can the other alliance missed in auto.

carpedav000 11-07-2015 13:56

Re: IRI Predictions
 
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Originally Posted by logank013 (Post 1489700)
I don't see why not. Just take away the right can burglar (since they back up) and run the same auto. Or keep the right can burglar and change the auto, then, they would be able to scoop up the center can the other alliance missed in auto.

Wait... we're allowed to grab the cans the other alliance misses? The time has come for the 4-bar claw to shine!

logank013 11-07-2015 15:10

Re: IRI Predictions
 
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Originally Posted by carpedav000 (Post 1489702)
Wait... we're allowed to grab the cans the other alliance misses? The time has come for the 4-bar claw to shine!

Yes. The left side can ban is only for autonomous mode from what I understand. The rule states "During the Autonomous period, the “Right side” (from the drivers station perspective) Recycle Containers on the step may only be contacted by the alliance facing them. After Autonomous, Recycle Containers remaining on the step are open to either alliance.

Kevin Leonard 14-07-2015 12:34

Re: IRI Predictions
 
Final pre-IRI predictions- this time with no explanations.

1114-2056-1325-4678 SF
118-624-2468-330 F
33-1625-225-2590 W
2826-1218-1640-4143
1730-1619-3824-125
2338-1023-195-3130 SF
1756-4039-68-1310
1806-2122-16-233

2015 IRI Champions: Killfire Winesis

Brian Maher 14-07-2015 12:49

Re: IRI Predictions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin Leonard (Post 1490163)
33-1625-225-2590 W

2015 IRI Champions: Killfire Winesis

With a name like that, you have me convinced.

One issue though: if I'm not mistaken, 2590 is the only chute door stacker on that alliance.

The other Gabe 14-07-2015 19:07

Re: IRI Predictions
 
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Originally Posted by BMSOTM (Post 1490165)
With a name like that, you have me convinced.

One issue though: if I'm not mistaken, 2590 is the only chute door stacker on that alliance.

extra weight= RAMPS!!!!!

because you're right, 3/4 bots prefer landfill, and 1 can't do feeder. it could work as an interesting strategy, though, with either 33 or 1625 clearing most of the landfill, leaving step totes for 225

John Retkowski 14-07-2015 21:59

Re: IRI Predictions
 
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Originally Posted by The other Gabe (Post 1490230)
extra weight= RAMPS!!!!!

because you're right, 3/4 bots prefer landfill, and 1 can't do feeder. it could work as an interesting strategy, though, with either 33 or 1625 clearing most of the landfill, leaving step totes for 225

That strategy doesn't seem like it would hold up. For starters lets say 33 or 1625 clears most of the landfill (heck the whole landfill even) and makes 3 stacks. Lets say 2590 makes 3 stacks from the feeder station. Why would you waste 225's talents on the step totes? There's not much benefit of having three landfill bots on an alliance of four unless one of them can adapt to feeder station. There's 42 totes to us back there. Using only 18 is just a shame.

Ben Martin 14-07-2015 22:47

Re: IRI Predictions
 
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Originally Posted by John Retkowski (Post 1490251)
That strategy doesn't seem like it would hold up. For starters lets say 33 or 1625 clears most of the landfill (heck the whole landfill even) and makes 3 stacks. Lets say 2590 makes 3 stacks from the feeder station. Why would you waste 225's talents on the step totes? There's not much benefit of having three landfill bots on an alliance of four unless one of them can adapt to feeder station. There's 42 totes to us back there. Using only 18 is just a shame.


Here is how I would prefer to play this one, if we were lucky enough to be on this alliance:

For autonomous, 33 does their 3-tote, we do our upright can grab. We leave 2 cans in the auto zone, 33 is holding 1, for +8 points. There is also a potential option to have 1625 ready to can grab immediately in teleoperated mode if the other alliance misses a can.

33 is capable of 3 stacks of 6 out of the landfill, so I don't think 4 stacks from the feeder station with a long ramp is unreasonable as a possibility. 1625 also gets a long ramp. 33 gets 4 cans, 1625 gets three, and they both empty the feeder station. They don't have to waste any time can-hunting, since every can is already upright and sitting near the feeder stations. We put up 18-20 totes from the landfill/step, nicely stacked super dense on the very full scoring platforms.

In this scenario, there are 7 cans scored at level 6, 28 auto points, all the feeder station totes scored, and the equivalent or more of all the landfill totes scored. If it doesn't work out, pull us out, have one of the other robots do landfill, and put 2590 on feeder station.

I think the consistent robots with long ramps, active intakes, fast stacking, and lots of practice will go first in the draft, whether they normally play landfill or feeder station. Shout-out to 5254, who implemented this strategy at Midknight Mayhem to make stacks faster than anybody else at the competition.

AWoL 14-07-2015 23:33

Re: IRI Predictions
 
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Originally Posted by BMSOTM (Post 1490165)
One issue though: if I'm not mistaken, 2590 is the only chute door stacker on that alliance.

We've actually been working on that. After a good bit of drive practice we can put up 2 stacks minimum from both stations and can get closer to 3 on a good run, especially from the right chute door where the platform is close.

orangelight 14-07-2015 23:45

Re: IRI Predictions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin Leonard (Post 1490163)
Final pre-IRI predictions- this time with no explanations.

1114-2056-1325-4678 SF
118-624-2468-330 F
33-1625-225-2590 W
2826-1218-1640-4143
1730-1619-3824-125
2338-1023-195-3130 SF
1756-4039-68-1310
1806-2122-16-233

2015 IRI Champions: Killfire Winesis

No 548 :ahh:

jajabinx124 15-07-2015 00:34

Re: IRI Predictions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin Leonard (Post 1490163)
Final pre-IRI predictions- this time with no explanations.

1114-2056-1325-4678 SF
118-624-2468-330 F
33-1625-225-2590 W
2826-1218-1640-4143
1730-1619-3824-125
2338-1023-195-3130 SF
1756-4039-68-1310
1806-2122-16-233

2015 IRI Champions: Killfire Winesis

125 isn't attending IRI. The list of attending teams for IRI was updated yesterday on the IRI invitation thread.

Brian Maher 15-07-2015 01:23

Re: IRI Predictions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by orangelight (Post 1490269)
No 548 :ahh:

Quote:

Originally Posted by jajabinx124 (Post 1490273)
125 isn't attending IRI. The list of attending teams for IRI was updated yesterday on the IRI invitation thread.

Well, that makes for an easy switch :p


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