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carpedav000 13-07-2015 14:10

Re: 2015 Pre-IRI Event Scouting
 
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Originally Posted by aeastet (Post 1490019)
We get our first stack done in about 20 seconds now. It will do well for us.

So what Im hearing is... add 107 to the list of bots that make 4 full stacks?

Jim Schaddelee 13-07-2015 15:26

Re: 2015 Pre-IRI Event Scouting
 
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Originally Posted by Kevin Leonard (Post 1490000)
I don't know what this means, but it scares me.

look at the yellow totes. that is precision stacking.:)

logank013 13-07-2015 15:32

Re: 2015 Pre-IRI Event Scouting
 
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Originally Posted by carpedav000 (Post 1490021)
So what Im hearing is... add 107 to the list of bots that make 4 full stacks?

I'd say they probably can do 4 stacks maybe in eliminations. Since the yellow totes can be used in eliminations, the basically do there a three totes, 1 can auto with the can on top. Then they already have half a stack in autonomous. So then they just have to add 3 more totes and litter for a full stack.

Jim Schaddelee 13-07-2015 15:41

Re: 2015 Pre-IRI Event Scouting
 
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Originally Posted by logank013 (Post 1490005)
How is the half stack auto working out for Elims?

Here is a link to our autonomous. https://youtu.be/kGj0PjfuGgU
with the yellow tote being use as scoring stacks after auton in eliminations
matchs we just grab the 3 yellow totes and add three totes to finish our first stack. I would like to thank team 74 letting us us there space and totes to practice. Good luck to all the teams at IRI . I cant wait.

logank013 13-07-2015 15:49

Re: 2015 Pre-IRI Event Scouting
 
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Originally Posted by Jim Schaddelee (Post 1490039)
Here is a link to our autonomous. https://youtu.be/kGj0PjfuGgU
with the yellow tote being use as scoring stacks after auton in eliminations
matchs we just grab the 3 yellow totes and add three totes to finish our first stack. I would like to thank team 74 letting us us there space and totes to practice. Good luck to all the teams at IRI . I cant wait.

I see. I don't think you can have a can preloaded so will u have to go get a can and then go back for those 3 totes?

bkahl 13-07-2015 15:53

Re: 2015 Pre-IRI Event Scouting
 
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Originally Posted by logank013 (Post 1490042)
I see. I don't think you can have a can preloaded so will u have to go get a can and then go back for those 3 totes?

Can preload is allowed. It is one of the 2 extra cans that alliances are allowed to place ANYWHERE.

Jim Schaddelee 13-07-2015 15:55

Re: 2015 Pre-IRI Event Scouting
 
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Originally Posted by logank013 (Post 1490042)
I see. I don't think you can have a can preloaded so will u have to go get a can and then go back for those 3 totes?

Iri rule change, I think it's really going to help team with good 3 tote autons.

logank013 13-07-2015 15:56

Re: 2015 Pre-IRI Event Scouting
 
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Originally Posted by bkahl (Post 1490045)
Can preload is allowed. It is one of the 2 extra cans that alliances are allowed to place ANYWHERE.

Yeah but I figured anywhere meant anywhere touching th floor... Could you put it on top of a tote? Cuz then any team with a three tote auto can run their 3 tote auto and have half a stack

Kevin Leonard 13-07-2015 15:57

Re: 2015 Pre-IRI Event Scouting
 
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Originally Posted by logank013 (Post 1490049)
Yeah but I figured anywhere meant anywhere touching th floor... Could you put it on top of a tote? Cuz then any team with a three tote auto can run their 3 tote auto and have half a stack

Yes.
But only during elims.

logank013 13-07-2015 15:59

Re: 2015 Pre-IRI Event Scouting
 
Yeah obviously. But you could still preload that can in if you have a can holder at the top to save you some time. Just not on top of that tote.

Kevin Leonard 13-07-2015 16:02

Re: 2015 Pre-IRI Event Scouting
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by logank013 (Post 1490052)
Yeah obviously. But you could still preload that can in if you have a can holder at the top to save you some time. Just not on top of that tote.

Why not on top of the tote?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Fultz (Post 1480474)
The attached paper contains the 2015 IRI Rule Changes, in the form of a FIRST "Team Update".

To summarize -

The IRI Committee has the benefit of seeing RecycleRUSH in action and seeing the level of play that can be achieved by teams. With this benefit, we are incorporating the rule changes, modification and additions as outlined below.

The intent of the IRI Committee is to minimize the changes to the game and avoid negatively impacting a team / robot / strategy that was implemented to play the game as originally designed, while also increasing the game challenge and level of play for the IRI. Our goals for these changes include: 1) Allow for high scores by minimizing the chance of running out of game pieces; 2) Minimize the number of match outcomes determined in the first second of the match; 3) Don’t invalidate an existing good design or strategy; 4) Keep the event safe; and 5) Don’t start a can-war arms race that encourages teams to invest significant time and resources into an ever-faster device to capture Recycle Containers from the step.
The committee believes the rule changes below meet these goals.

2015 IRI Rule Changes

Each Alliance is allowed 2 extra Recycle Containers, placed on their side of the field, where the Alliance wants. These Containers can be placed anywhere between the guardrails, player station wall and the step, but must be completely out of the Auto Zone. (For example, they can be on a tote, on the carpet, on the scoring platform, on another Recycle container.) The Alliance can also choose to not place these on the field and they will remain out of play for the duration of the match.

6 extra totes per corner (12 per alliance).

Yellow Totes can be used to make regular stacks during Playoffs.

No penalty for yellow totes that cross the step until after co-op has scored.
(Note: Intentionally pushing yellow totes onto the other side before co-op will be a warning, and then a yellow card.)

During the Autonomous period, the "Right side" (from the drivers station perspective) Recycle Containers on the step may only be contacted by the alliance facing them. After Autonomous, Recycle Containers remaining on the step are open to either alliance.

The alliance is allowed to adjust the Yellow Totes and Recycle Containers - as long as they stay within the taped rectangles and in the same "order".

Slightly larger than transport robots can go on / off the field in "play mode" to save time if this can be safely done. The FTA and / or Head Referee may request for teams to return to the transport configuration for safety reasons. All robots must be a able to demonstrate that they can achieve the transport configuration.

A human player may contact with Litter that has entered the field as long as the human player does not cross the field boundary.

+5 pound weight allowance to allow for modifications, repairs, etc.

No inspection - however the FTA or Head Referee may challenge the safety of a device and may request modifications.

Alliance selection draft order is 1-8, 1-8, 8-1. All other alliance selection rules are unchanged.

In PLAYOFFS -
4 team alliances.
All teams on the Alliance do not have to play.
A human player from the 4th team may be a part of the alliance in the match.
The Alliance captain must submit the driver station positions before the match.

Draft order 1-8, 1-8, 8-1

No change to Playoff structure, maximum stack height, noodle use, scoring values.

Emphasis mine.

logank013 13-07-2015 16:09

Re: 2015 Pre-IRI Event Scouting
 
Not on top of the tote for qualifications because the yellow totes can't be used for stacks in qualifications.

Kevin Leonard 13-07-2015 16:11

Re: 2015 Pre-IRI Event Scouting
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by logank013 (Post 1490055)
Not on top of the tote for qualifications because the yellow totes can't be used for stacks in qualifications.

There is no rule preventing this. (Although, sure, I don't see much of a competitive advantage being gleaned from doing this, unless teams wanted to show that they could for some reason.)

logank013 13-07-2015 17:31

Re: 2015 Pre-IRI Event Scouting
 
Yes. The rules above say "yellow totes may be used to make regular stacks in playoff" so not in qualifications.

Jim Schaddelee 13-07-2015 18:10

Re: 2015 Pre-IRI Event Scouting
 
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Originally Posted by Kevin Leonard (Post 1490056)
There is no rule preventing this. (Although, sure, I don't see much of a advantage being gleaned from doing this, unless teams wanted to show that they could for some reason.)

That is a great point and the only reason we posted the video was to show our capability for eliminations.but for us adding the can grabber helps by saving time on our first stack and also helps us on our delivery time when play from the first player station.


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