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BrennanB 24-03-2016 06:04

Re: [FF]: 2016 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Visuals for week 3:

We definitely have distict packs forming, RFA solidly in first place, the chase for the remaining spots btwn TBC, FP, Broconnor, and OJ is alive.



Really what set this breakaway is RFA's killer score at Australia.



And of course their current lead in overall district points



District Points over time:


BrennanB 24-03-2016 06:05

Re: [FF]: 2016 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Week 3 specifics:



And we see Australia again with the week 3 progression only:


EricH 24-03-2016 09:41

Re: [FF]: 2016 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rangel(kf7fdb) (Post 1561391)
If somebody(I guess I volunteer) made an online tool that automatically handled waiver claims, would people be open to this? It seems like it would be simple to submit waiver claims and handle them without a person's input. Things that it would publicly display would be waiver priority, teams currently up for claim, and a log of awarded claims. Even if we don't do this for the current year, it would be helpful for waiver claims in general I would think.

I've been working off and on (and haven't gotten very far on) an Excel sheet. Trust me on waivers now being better(ish) than a couple years back.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tindleroot (Post 1561483)
I think that this is a good idea.

One other thing I want to propose is to offer waiver priority to teams at a regional who have one (or more) pick drop out of the regional. In these cases, I think it makes sense that their new pick should be allowed regardless of waiver priority and time before the event, but once an event starts, then their team is replaced with a random.

In the rules--if you're missing a team, you have top waiver priority at that event, regardless of order.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Navid Shafa (Post 1562282)
Just the natural waiver order, which I believe is as follows:



RFA brought to attention the claims on 4009 (Idaho) and 2486 (Las Vegas). Since FIRST Pick was at the top of the list and RFA second, FIRST Pick had priority and should be rewarded 4009 (swapping out 3513, per their request). They would then move to the bottom of the list, giving RFA 2486 (choosing to drop 3200). I'll wait for Eric to chime in here before processing.

I believe the new waiver priority should be:

Code:

Waiver Priority:
OrangeJuice
Falcon
Swamp Life
The Breakfast Company
The ULCAN
Broconnor
FIRST Pick
Rotten Fruit Alliance

The waiver claim for 48 at Queen City is still on the table, posted today by The ULCAN.

That would be correct. (Falcon is putting a claim on 48, though.)

ghostmachine360 27-03-2016 00:12

Re: [FF]: 2016 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
RFA:

Queen City: 4028 (IN), 144 (OUT)
South Florida: 2905 (IN), 3556 (IN), 4471 (OUT), 4500 (OUT)
Western Canada: 3211 (IN), 5078 (OUT)

BrennanB 27-03-2016 05:49

Re: [FF]: 2016 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
2522 in 1378 out hawaii
3802 in 4570 out Hub City
4301 in 4799 out Hub city
5818 in 5461 out Idaho
4125 in 5430 out Idaho
5847 in 2709 out Midwest
2393 in 4740 out Smoky Mountain

tindleroot 27-03-2016 13:46

Re: [FF]: 2016 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BrennanB (Post 1563470)
2522 in 1378 out hawaii
3802 in 4570 out Hub City
4301 in 4799 out Hub city
5818 in 5461 out Idaho
4125 in 5430 out Idaho
5847 in 2709 out Midwest
2393 in 4740 out Smoky Mountain

Are 3802 and 5818 waiver claims since they played this weekend?

BrennanB 27-03-2016 13:48

Re: [FF]: 2016 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Yes sir.

While we are on waivers, we are also claiming

4639 Lonestar
4904 SVR
167 North Star
2352 Lonestar

Priority will be sent to Eric privately later.

Anthony Galea 27-03-2016 14:35

Re: [FF]: 2016 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Just for the sake of clarity, I have sent in a claim for 5050 in FiM.

tindleroot 27-03-2016 15:39

Re: [FF]: 2016 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Automated scoring is still having quite a bit of trouble with district calculations, it seems. Many, many picks for every team are missing points at one or multiple events for ranking and awards. Qualifications win/loss is almost always correct and eliminations performance is always right. In the case of First Pick, my calculations are bringing us more than 300 points higher than the score listed on the Automated Scoring, and I'm sure every other team has similar situations.

If you go into the "Raw Picks" tab and look at districts, you can see the gaps of missing data.

ttldomination 27-03-2016 15:55

Re: [FF]: 2016 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tindleroot (Post 1563621)
Automated scoring is still having quite a bit of trouble with district calculations, it seems. Many, many picks for every team are missing points at one or multiple events for ranking and awards. Qualifications win/loss is almost always correct and eliminations performance is always right. In the case of First Pick, my calculations are bringing us more than 300 points higher than the score listed on the Automated Scoring, and I'm sure every other team has similar situations.

If you go into the "Raw Picks" tab and look at districts, you can see the gaps of missing data.

Just a couple of questions so that I can better understand the issues here:

1) When you say "gaps of missing data", what exactly are you referring to?

2) Can you provide an example of picks that are missing awards and eliminations information at events? This'll help me chase down the issues much quicker.

Thanks,
- Sunny G.

BrennanB 27-03-2016 16:04

Re: [FF]: 2016 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Draft order from the 2016 season.

Teams that were kicked/withdrawn from the league were factored out

eg. if the draft was

1. Team that got kicked out/withdrew
2. Team that is still in

The team bumps up to #1 pick position.

Districts aren't included cause it got swapped around.




Weighted rankings

1st pick = 8 pnts
2nd pick = 7 pnts
3rd pick = 6 pnts
.....
....
8th pick = 1pnts


Navid Shafa 27-03-2016 19:35

Re: [FF]: 2016 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BrennanB (Post 1563470)
2522 in 1378 out hawaii
3802 in 4570 out Hub City
4301 in 4799 out Hub city
5818 in 5461 out Idaho
4125 in 5430 out Idaho
5847 in 2709 out Midwest
2393 in 4740 out Smoky Mountain

2522, 4125 and 2393 have all been picked and are already on rosters. 167 is also an illegal waiver claim, as they are already on a roster.

I have these as the following floating waivers:

Code:

FF Team        OUT        IN        Event
Falcon?        ?        48*        Queen City
TBC        ?        3802        Hub City
TBC        ?        5818        Idaho
ULCAN        ?        5050        MI
TBC        ?        4639        Lonestar
TBC        ?        4904        SVR
TBC        ?        2352        Lonestar

I processed these legal swaps:

Code:

FF Team        OUT        IN        Event
RFA        144        4028        Queen City
RFA        4500        2905        South Florida
RFA        4471        3556        South Florida
RFA        5078        3211        Western Canada
TBC        4799        4301        Hub city


BrennanB 27-03-2016 19:55

Re: [FF]: 2016 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Navid Shafa (Post 1563743)
2522, 4125 and 2393 have all been picked and are already on rosters. 167 is also an illegal waiver claim, as they are already on a roster.

Whoopsies my bad. ::rtm::

EricH 27-03-2016 20:31

Re: [FF]: 2016 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
The 48 claim is good to process (dropping 6084).

The rest should be handled by Tuesday night--there is at least one other claim for 5818 in Idaho that I'm aware of, will advise. And Falcon will put a claim in for 5818 as well (dropping 1566 if successful).

tindleroot 28-03-2016 12:00

Re: [FF]: 2016 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ttldomination (Post 1563632)
Just a couple of questions so that I can better understand the issues here:

1) When you say "gaps of missing data", what exactly are you referring to?

2) Can you provide an example of picks that are missing awards and eliminations information at events? This'll help me chase down the issues much quicker.

Thanks,
- Sunny G.

The gaps of missing data that I'm referring to are missing points for mostly district teams (regionals are almost perfect except for a few instances of missed qualification win points). In the "Raw Picks" tab, Column J (District Points) are shown as 0 for all CHS teams except 1262 and 1610. This problem maintains over all of the districts. Some teams also have ranking points missing from one of their two events, such that they are awarded approximately half points for ranking.

Without much more knowledge than educated guesses about how, when, and where you pull data and parse through it, I can't really help trace back the problem, but to me it looks like random teams are missing random points, and these missing points are traced to the ranking points in almost every case.

Looking further, it appears that many district teams are also missing points for robot awards and high scores. 1024 won two robot awards this year and also had the high score at all three of their district points, so if I'm reading the chart correctly their column K on the raw picks sheet should have 45 points but instead has 0.

That's the best help I can give at identifying the problem. I am really happy that you guys made the system to simplify scoring throughout the season, and I will keep checking it against First Pick's scores (calculated manually by me) to make sure all points are being awarded properly.


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