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Navid Shafa 29-12-2015 20:50

Re: [FF]: 2016 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
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Originally Posted by EricH (Post 1515298)
Sounds about right. It's a bit of a pain

Yep. So the way I pulled these lists was by combining all district event rosters, merging them into a single column, removing duplicates, as well as out of district teams. I attached my raw excel sheet too, in case anyone is interested.

Quote:

Originally Posted by EricH (Post 1515298)
I was looking at IN earlier and noticed 3-4 un-numbered rookie teams (AKA, still had their temporary number).

FIRSTinspires only shows 5944 and 6012, while the old domain show both of those, as well as 5978. 5978 doesn't even exist on FIRSTinspires and aren't shown as registered for any events.

Giantwalker 30-12-2015 16:11

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I have a question about district scoring: according to the rules page given at the start of this thread, scoring for teams in district drafts is the average of their scores for all district events.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Season Long Fantasy First Traditional Rules
"For the district event draft, each team’s final score will be the average of their FF score for all district events played."

Does this mean that third district count and if so do we also count cross district events (e.g. NE team goes to MAR)?

Navid Shafa 30-12-2015 16:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Giantwalker (Post 1515403)
Does this mean that third district count and if so do we also count cross district events (e.g. NE team goes to MAR)?

Yes, and yes.

Quote:

Originally Posted by EricH (Post 1400767)
I would also like to make a note regarding scores for interdistrict play. For all scorers: A district team, playing in districts, is drafted in and has its score counted towards its home district only. You draft 'em in their home district, you get the average score across all district events attended, home or away.


Giantwalker 30-12-2015 16:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Navid Shafa (Post 1515404)
Yes, and yes.

Thanks Navid!

orangemoore 30-12-2015 17:34

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I had to take myself off of the MI draft entirely I have too many conflicts popping up to run it. Hopefully someone else can run it.

Anthony Galea 30-12-2015 17:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by orangemoore (Post 1515424)
I had to take myself off of the MI draft entirely I have too many conflicts popping up to run it. Hopefully someone else can run it.

I can try to do it, if nobody else wants to.

EDIT: After looking through the draft runner sheet, I think I can do this. I'll do it.

MARS_James 30-12-2015 19:08

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So with the help of the RFA data base i have begun updating the drafts but while going through them a thought crossed my mind about an update the to the waiver rules:

Lockout Period:
If a team has competed at an event the previous week they are given temporary on-waiver status until 2 days following the event.


Why the change:
In order to avoid a scenario where an unexpected team does exceedingly well at their first (or second) event and someone picks them for all their subsequent events just by being quicker to the keyboard, it will still give priority to the teams at the top of the waiver queue.

It isn't a big change and it shouldn't result in much headaches for who ever is running the waiver wire but it makes being at the top of the waiver list still worth while, and makes picking up said teams more fair for the whole league.

Just a thought that crossed my mind that we may want to implement.

EricH 30-12-2015 19:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MARS_James (Post 1515462)
Lockout Period:
If a team has competed at an event the previous week they are given temporary on-waiver status until 2 days following the event.


Why the change:
In order to avoid a scenario where an unexpected team does exceedingly well at their first (or second) event and someone picks them for all their subsequent events just by being quicker to the keyboard, it will still give priority to the teams at the top of the waiver queue.

It isn't a big change and it shouldn't result in much headaches for who ever is running the waiver wire but it makes being at the top of the waiver list still worth while, and makes picking up said teams more fair for the whole league.

Just a thought that crossed my mind that we may want to implement.

I like. Usually there's one or two teams like that. That being said, they've often been snapped up as somebody's third-rounder in their later events...

JosephC 30-12-2015 20:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Navid Shafa (Post 1515293)
*Excluding TBC's unnamed swap for 120 at Buckeye, still waiting on that ;)

We changed our minds and don't want them anymore, so no swap.

Navid Shafa 30-12-2015 20:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JosephC (Post 1515508)
We changed our minds and don't want them anymore, so no swap.

In that case, the picks posted should now be up to date as of tonight's drafts.

EricH 30-12-2015 21:02

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Schedule and other notes:

Enjoy the days off (there are no scheduled drafts until Saturday). That being said, the MI and MAR drafts are both up for picking, should anybody want to do so.

So, the basic plan on these two-day, 6-round drafts is that the first day is a normal 3-round day, and the second day reverses the drafting order but maintains the picklists. There's a reason for that "non-random players" button on the draft generator part of the sheet, and this is it.

The schedule from now until Kickoff is all district drafting: MI, MAR, PNW, and NE are all 2-day drafts; Chesapeake is likely to be another. North Carolina and Peachtree are single-day. Then we get a day to relax and then it's time to build a robot.

A couple of notes as far as "what's next": Waivers remain open for any team that crops up and wasn't in the initial draft; trades are perfectly valid between players if everybody is willing.


Further schedule note: We still have a number of drafts to run. However, we don't know the teams attending those events yet. I'm referring, of course, to the DCMP events, which will draft sometime around Week 5-6 of competition, and to the Championship's 8 divisional drafts, which will draft the weekend before Champs if at all possible. This is going to be a little hectic during those draft weekends...

tindleroot 30-12-2015 21:31

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Can we send a second pick list for day 2 of the block drafts?

EricH 30-12-2015 21:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tindleroot (Post 1515525)
Can we send a second pick list for day 2 of the block drafts?

Sure. I'll use whatever the most current list I have is.

MARS_James 01-01-2016 16:46

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So I have a late addition to the Swamp Life team: Jeremy Callahan, he will be handling the remainder of Swamp Life's FiM picks.

EDIT:
I have finished updating the threads and everything should be up to date, check the threads to make sure you have your appropriate teams

EDIT EDIT:
Just letting everyone know that 2383 Ninjineers showed up as a team at the Orlando Regional, feel free to put in waiver claims.

Navid Shafa 01-01-2016 19:45

Re: [FF]: 2016 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MARS_James (Post 1515761)
I have finished updating the threads and everything should be up to date, check the threads to make sure you have your appropriate teams.

Thanks to feedback from James, the spreadsheet with picks should be current as well.

EricH 01-01-2016 22:49

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2383 is on waiver in Orlando. Claims will need to be in by 1/4/16, 8 PM Eastern.

Rangel 03-01-2016 18:35

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Team 987 looks to be signed up for Arizona West. OrangeJuice would like to make a claim for them.

EricH 03-01-2016 22:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rangel(kf7fdb) (Post 1516235)
Team 987 looks to be signed up for Arizona West. OrangeJuice would like to make a claim for them.

And THIS waiver will close on 1/6, 7 PM Eastern. But it'll be a moot point unless OJ adds a claim for 2383 in Orlando, which comes off first.

Current priority is:
OrangeJuice
Broconnor
Falcon
The Breakfast Company
Swamp Life
Rotten Fruit Alliance
The ULCAN
FIRST Pick

Rangel 04-01-2016 15:31

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We will not be making a claim for 2383. Once the waiver claim goes through for 987, we will trade out 3187.

EricH 04-01-2016 20:00

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Well... It's 8 PM Eastern.

So, it's time to reveal that Rotten Fruit Alliance picks up 2383 in Orlando off of waivers.

And by virtue of being at the top of the waiver list, Orange Juice picks up 987 in Arizona West.


Speaking of Arizona West, Falcon claims 1197 there, replacing 991 (if successful). (OK, so I've got inside info...) Waiver closes 1/7 at 8 PM Eastern.

Current waiver priority list:
Broconnor
Falcon
The Breakfast Company
Swamp Life
The ULCAN
FIRST Pick
Rotten Fruit Alliance
OrangeJuice

Navid Shafa 04-01-2016 23:04

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RFA will bring in 2383 for 2556 at Orlando. I have updated the pick sheet to reflect the new waivers.

EricH 06-01-2016 21:13

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Only two drafts left: Chesapeake Day 2 and Peachtree. And Kickoff is still three days away...

So, what happens after the last drafts? That's easy... Waiting. Waiting for teams to come off of the waitlists (or not). Offering and accepting trades (or not). And waiting for Week 0...

After all the waiting comes the drafting of the DCMPs. The good news is that they're spread over two weekends: PNW, Chesapeake, and NC will draft between 4/3 and 4/5, and the rest will draft between 4/10 and 4/12. The bad news is that the teams are really good, and you only get 3.

And then comes the week after DCMPs, better known as Championship Division Draft Week (er... OK. Whatever. ;) ) All 8 divisions get drafted, but the drafting order is no longer random... We'll get to that later.

Navid Shafa 07-01-2016 20:14

Re: [FF]: 2016 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EricH (Post 1516598)
Speaking of Arizona West, Falcon claims 1197 there, replacing 991 (if successful). (OK, so I've got inside info...) Waiver closes 1/7 at 8 PM Eastern.

Are they yours?

EricH 07-01-2016 20:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by EricH (Post 1516598)
Speaking of Arizona West, Falcon claims 1197 there, replacing 991 (if successful). (OK, so I've got inside info...) Waiver closes 1/7 at 8 PM Eastern.

No other claims were received for this waiver. Falcon picks up 1197 for 991 in Arizona West.


Current waiver priority list:
Broconnor
The Breakfast Company
Swamp Life
The ULCAN
FIRST Pick
Rotten Fruit Alliance
OrangeJuice
Falcon

Navid Shafa 07-01-2016 20:20

Re: [FF]: 2016 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EricH (Post 1517837)
No other claims were received for this waiver. Falcon picks up 1197 for 991 in Arizona West.

With that waiver processed and drafts completed, the rosters have been updated.

EricH 10-01-2016 19:54

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Apologies to an anonymous claimant for making them wait over a day for the posting:

1023 is on waiver in Pittsburgh, with a claim. Claim window closes 1/13 at 8 PM EST.

Navid Shafa 11-01-2016 13:32

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The same District Ranking Method used last year will be implemented this season.

EricH 12-01-2016 23:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Navid Shafa (Post 1521153)
The same District Ranking Method used last year will be implemented this season.

I noticed that. OTOH, W-L-T is back as the primary method of ranking. (And then there's the extra RPs...)

Usually, we go W-L-T at 2-0-1, then add on ranking points for just the top 15 or 16 teams. (Last year, of course, was an exception.) I'm thinking there are a few ways to go here.

1) W-L-T, + standard rank points for the teams that seed high enough to make elims on their own if the cards line up.
2) RP total, + standard rank points.
3) District Ranking.
4) W-L-T, + District Ranking.
5) RP total, + District Ranking.

Of the 5, I'm leaning towards #5, as it gives out the most total points and is the easiest to calculate. OTOH, it'll really bias towards districts and smaller events with their 12+ matches/team. My second option would be #2, due to it being more standard.

Navid Shafa 13-01-2016 21:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by EricH (Post 1522450)
Usually, we go W-L-T at 2-0-1, then add on ranking points for just the top 15 or 16 teams. (Last year, of course, was an exception.) I'm thinking there are a few ways to go here.

I'm not recalling how this was done in 2014 and prior. Would that be W-L-T points plus additional rank points starting at 16 for 1st seed and down to 1 point for the 16th seed? Is this what you are referring to as Standard rank below?

Quote:

Originally Posted by EricH (Post 1522450)
1) W-L-T, + standard rank points for the teams that seed high enough to make elims on their own if the cards line up.
2) RP total, + standard rank points.
3) District Ranking.
4) W-L-T, + District Ranking.
5) RP total, + District Ranking.

Of the 5, I'm leaning towards #5, as it gives out the most total points and is the easiest to calculate. OTOH, it'll really bias towards districts and smaller events with their 12+ matches/team. My second option would be #2, due to it being more standard.

Since we have the table on the last sheet here from last season, this should be easy enough for us to use while working on automated FF scoring via the API for this year. Without ease of calculation being an issue, I am strongly against most options, save for 3.

Trying to use W-L-T as a stand-alone is a poor metric, because most teams may be designing strategies that net them a higher average RP, but net them a lower match score. Trying to use RP is a little better, but it creates an inflation of ranking points (relative to award and elimination points). This inflation may adversely affect Fantasy teams that made databases/picks based on a certain weighting of on-field performance.

The fact that District Ranking is normalized and is comparable between events has me leaning this route. Trying to add additional rank points to the district ranking defeats the purpose of normalization IMO.


Quote:

Originally Posted by EricH (Post 1520532)
1023 is on waiver in Pittsburgh, with a claim. Claim window closes 1/13 at 8 PM EST.

Who got lucky? ;)

EricH 13-01-2016 22:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Navid Shafa (Post 1523198)
I'm not recalling how this was done in 2014 and prior. Would that be W-L-T points plus additional rank points starting at 16 for 1st seed and down to 1 point for the 16th seed? Is this what you are referring to as Standard rank below?

It is what I'm referring to as Standard rank. From the posted rules:
1st seed, 20 points
2nd-3rd seed, 12 points
4th-8th seed, 6 points
9th-12th seed, 3 points
13th-16th seed, 2 points

Subject to change based on the game given, naturally.

Quote:

Since we have the table on the last sheet here from last season, this should be easy enough for us to use while working on automated FF scoring via the API for this year. Without ease of calculation being an issue, I am strongly against most options, save for 3.

Trying to use W-L-T as a stand-alone is a poor metric, because most teams may be designing strategies that net them a higher average RP, but net them a lower match score. Trying to use RP is a little better, but it creates an inflation of ranking points (relative to award and elimination points). This inflation may adversely affect Fantasy teams that made databases/picks based on a certain weighting of on-field performance.

The fact that District Ranking is normalized and is comparable between events has me leaning this route. Trying to add additional rank points to the district ranking defeats the purpose of normalization IMO.
Just as a thought, the defenses may adversely affect real FRC teams that developed offseason drivetrains based on a certain assumption of field terrain. ;)

The main reason we went to the district ranking in the first place is because FIRST wasn't tracking W-L-T, so we had no way to calculate that. District rank only affects district advancement, which was also the case last year, but we have W-L-T back this year. Remember, we're scoring at events, NOT between them. FIRST doesn't normalize between events. (Except for the district ranking.)

The only two times we HAVEN'T used straight W-L-T were 2012 (the bridges were added in) and 2015 (no W-L-T to count). In all other years, it's been W-L-T + rank. That's a big part of why I favor the options without the district ranking--this is, after all, a Traditional league, though being the only league kind of led to that tag being dropped.


How about using Option 4? Keep the W-L-T, but swap out the rank bonus points for the district ranking, which gives all the teams points. If we really wanted to, we could assign a negative value to the losses.



Quote:

Who got lucky? ;)
Swamp Life, for 2526.

Navid Shafa 13-01-2016 22:41

Re: [FF]: 2016 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EricH (Post 1523222)
How about using Option 4? Keep the W-L-T, but swap out the rank bonus points for the district ranking, which gives all the teams points. If we really wanted to, we could assign a negative value to the losses.

I think it's the lesser of the evils, fine by me. ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by EricH (Post 1523222)
Swamp Life, for 2526.

Updated Rosters


Quote:

Originally Posted by EricH (Post 1523222)
Just as a thought, the defenses may adversely affect real FRC teams that developed offseason drivetrains based on a certain assumption of field terrain. ;)

Tangential: I would strongly argue that teams of this caliber are unlikely to blindly copy-paste their offseason drive trains. Teams willing to put in the time for off-season R&D, and/or training are likely smart enough to design around a game.

Rangel 13-01-2016 23:31

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What's the problem with option 1? You have your standard W/L/T and then extra RP would be reflected in the actual standings.

EricH 20-01-2016 00:46

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OK, we have another waiver claim up:

Anonymous team has claimed 11 in South Florida. This one closes 1/22/16, we'll call it midnight PST.

Alpha Beta 21-01-2016 15:05

Re: [FF]: 2016 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
GKC just went from 57 to 58 teams. ;)

EricH 21-01-2016 19:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Alpha Beta (Post 1527896)
GKC just went from 57 to 58 teams. ;)

OK, I see a lot of folks figured out that that's 1986 in GKC. Waiver closes 1/24, 8 PM EST.

For reference, the current priority list is:
Broconnor
The Breakfast Company
The ULCAN
FIRST Pick
Rotten Fruit Alliance
OrangeJuice
Falcon
Swamp Life

EricH 23-01-2016 00:01

Re: [FF]: 2016 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Well, I do believe that I've got some waivers to award.

The Breakfast Company picks up 11 for 2905 in South Florida.

And ordinarily I'd let the waivers run for 1986, but when the top of the list makes a claim, there's no point. Broconnor drops 5730 to pick up 1986 in GKC.

Current priority list:
The ULCAN
FIRST Pick
Rotten Fruit Alliance
OrangeJuice
Falcon
Swamp Life
The Breakfast Company
Broconnor

EricH 21-02-2016 23:51

Re: [FF]: 2016 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
OK, folks, as a reminder, we're coming up on competition season. So, we've got a few notes...

--Lists will lock (no trades, unless someone is replacing a no-show) at midnight on Wednesday prior to an event beginning. So, Palmetto locks the day after Bag Day. Week 1 events lock 1 week later.
--Scoring: As discussed some time ago, we will be scoring W-L-T, and adding in some ranking points using the District ranking model.


And a waiver is up: 842, Las Vegas, closes 2/24 at midnight Eastern.

EricH 22-02-2016 01:21

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And another waiver just went up: 5817, Orange County. We'll call that the same close time as before.

Navid Shafa 26-02-2016 15:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by EricH (Post 1544040)
And a waiver is up: 842, Las Vegas, closes 2/24 at midnight Eastern.

Quote:

Originally Posted by EricH (Post 1544092)
And another waiver just went up: 5817, Orange County. We'll call that the same close time as before.

Results?

tindleroot 26-02-2016 15:14

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Just for reference, can someone list the point values for scoring? I know there's been discussion on the style but it has all been fairly ambiguous as to the actual point values. Thanks.

Navid Shafa 26-02-2016 17:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tindleroot (Post 1547591)
Just for reference, can someone list the point values for scoring? I know there's been discussion on the style but it has all been fairly ambiguous as to the actual point values. Thanks.

As long as we get a clarification from Eric on ranking, I'm assuming we'll be set. With Palmetto already underway, this seems to be a critical decision.

I believe the rest is the same as last year?

EricH 26-02-2016 20:12

Re: [FF]: 2016 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Navid Shafa (Post 1547636)
As long as we get a clarification from Eric on ranking, I'm assuming we'll be set. With Palmetto already underway, this seems to be a critical decision.

I believe the rest is the same as last year?

Same as last year.

Here's the changes:
W-L-T is back at 2-0-1.
And we'll use the district ranking for ranking pointage.

OK, the waivers...
842 goes to ULCAN
5817 goes to Broconnor for 6220.

NEW WAIVER: 1197, San Diego Regional. Falcon claims.

If you're missing a team in a locked regional, you'll be assigned a random team during scoring.

Waiver Priority:
FIRST Pick
Rotten Fruit Alliance
OrangeJuice
Falcon
Swamp Life
The Breakfast Company
The ULCAN
Broconnor

Navid Shafa 29-02-2016 12:37

Re: [FF]: 2016 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EricH (Post 1547710)
OK, the waivers...
842 goes to ULCAN
5817 goes to Broconnor for 6220.

NEW WAIVER: 1197, San Diego Regional. Falcon claims.

The rosters are current, with the exceptions of Bayou and the claims awarded above (pending swaps).

As for automated Fantasy scoring, RFA is getting close. In the meantime, I'm working on the manual scores for Palmetto, for those curious ;)

BrennanB 29-02-2016 12:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Navid Shafa (Post 1549009)
As for automated Fantasy scoring, RFA is getting close. In the meantime, I'm working on the manual scores for Palmetto, for those curious ;)

TBC's manual scoring:

Code:

Swamp Life            165
FIRST Pick            147
Rotten Fruit Alliance 137
The Breakfast Company 120
OrangeJuice          105*
Broconnor            94
The ULCAN            71
Falcon                69

*down a team (we didn't sub in the random team)


Navid Shafa 29-02-2016 15:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BrennanB (Post 1549012)
TBC's manual scoring:

Code:

Swamp Life            165
FIRST Pick            147
Rotten Fruit Alliance 137
The Breakfast Company 120
OrangeJuice          105*
Broconnor            94
The ULCAN            71
Falcon                69

*down a team (we didn't sub in the random team)


RFA Automated Palmetto scoring is close to the same result, with the following differences:

*Falcon is 4 points short, missed QF finish for 1102
*OJ's team 4013 is 2 points short, missed imagery award
*OJ's team 2614 is 10 points short, maybe incorrect elims finish?

Code:

Swamp Life                165
FIRST Pick                147
Rotten Fruit Alliance        137
The Breakfast Company        120
OrangeJuice                117*
Broconnor              94
Falcon                        73
The ULCAN                71

OJ: Since 1319 was confirmed on the list and then later dropped, the next random to fill this spot would be 4902, correct?

EricH 29-02-2016 19:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Navid Shafa (Post 1549009)
The rosters are current, with the exceptions of Bayou and the claims awarded above (pending swaps).

I'm advised that ULCAN's drop is 6154.

Also, Breakfast Company has claimed 5872 in Bayou off of waivers.


I think I forgot to put the close of waivers on 1197 at San Diego--Midnight tomorrow (Tuesday, 3/1). 5872 will close at list lock (midnight of Wednesday, 3/2).

BrennanB 01-03-2016 13:49

Re: [FF]: 2016 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Navid Shafa (Post 1549135)
RFA Automated Palmetto scoring is close to the same result, with the following differences:

*Falcon is 4 points short, missed QF finish for 1102
*OJ's team 4013 is 2 points short, missed imagery award
*OJ's team 2614 is 10 points short, maybe incorrect elims finish?

Code:

Swamp Life                165
FIRST Pick                147
Rotten Fruit Alliance        137
The Breakfast Company        120
OrangeJuice                117*
Broconnor              94
Falcon                        73
The ULCAN                71

OJ: Since 1319 was confirmed on the list and then later dropped, the next random to fill this spot would be 4902, correct?

Looks good. And yes, fill with the next random.

EricH 02-03-2016 21:21

Re: [FF]: 2016 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
I was reminded that as a standard practice, picking up an otherwise-waiver team in the week before the event (defined as "Midnight Saturday night until list lock") doesn't count as waiver. *Checks time for the 1197 claim*--Guess I could have called that as free agent...Oh well, I called it as waiver.

Falcon picks up 1197 for 1159 in San Diego (waiver). There's a trade in GTR-C, too, by RFA (attempted challenge to that did not have priority, on top of that standard practice I'd forgotten about).

FIRST Pick
Rotten Fruit Alliance
OrangeJuice
Swamp Life
The Breakfast Company
The ULCAN
Broconnor
Falcon


One reminder: For any team that is competing in Week 1, there will be a 2-day waiver period on ADDING them to future alliances. Subtractions have no such restriction. The reason behind this is so that "breakout" teams aren't snapped up by quick trigger fingers (or concerted strategies by teams... not that anybody would do that).

ttldomination 02-03-2016 21:26

Re: [FF]: 2016 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Folks, for this past week, I've been working on an automated scoring system to help everyone out.

Leveraging the power of pivot tables and a little bit of scripting, the end result is available by clicking here.

Just some of the sheets:
"ScoreTotal" - Total scores for all teams.
"ScoreByEvent" - Score breakdown for all FF teams by the event.
"ScoreByWeek" - Score breakdown for all FF teams by the competition week.
"Raw Picks" - All picks and points for each FF teams.

The rest of the sheets hold raw data, roll ups, and other information needed to power the autoscoring.

As of right now, this thing will (should) score regionals and districts and keep it up as the season goes on.

If there are any questions/suggestions I can field them here. Additionally, if you poke around and find any errors, let me know and I'll get them ironed out as soon as possible.

Thanks,
- Sunny G.

Edit: As a note, the scoring isn't real-time. The processing for gathering data can be manually kicked off.

MARS_James 02-03-2016 23:18

Re: [FF]: 2016 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Has high score been eliminated as a point getter at regionals, cause it is listed under championship but not regionals.

Navid Shafa 02-03-2016 23:20

Re: [FF]: 2016 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MARS_James (Post 1550650)
Has high score been eliminated as a point getter at regionals, cause it is listed under championship but not regionals.

We've been counting it in the automated scoring system, a confirmation would be nice.

EricH 03-03-2016 00:08

Re: [FF]: 2016 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Navid Shafa (Post 1550651)
We've been counting it in the automated scoring system, a confirmation would be nice.

High score is still counted, 5 points for all teams in that alliance. As I recall it's quals high score only.

Navid Shafa 03-03-2016 00:20

Re: [FF]: 2016 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EricH (Post 1550674)
High score is still counted, 5 points for all teams in that alliance. As I recall it's quals high score only.

As of right now I believe Sunny has it checking overall event high score, want to verify that ruling? We can get that changed if so.

Also, I have removed the rosters from the drafting schedule sheet, and will now be only updating the Live Scoring Raw Picks sheet.

As of right now these rosters are up to date, excluding the pending waiver at Bayou on 5872. Note: Many of the CD threads have not been caught up to reflect all the waivers and trades.

EricH 03-03-2016 00:41

Re: [FF]: 2016 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Navid Shafa (Post 1550683)
As of right now these rosters are up to date, excluding the pending waiver at Bayou on 5872. Note: Many of the CD threads have not been caught up to reflect all the waivers and trades.

*checks waiver post*
*checks time*

It's after midnight Eastern, and nobody else has asked for the Bayou team. Looks like TBC is getting a fresh team.


Current Waiver Priority
FIRST Pick
Rotten Fruit Alliance
OrangeJuice
Swamp Life
The ULCAN
Broconnor
Falcon
The Breakfast Company


Oh, right, the high score. It's not clearly called out in the rules. High EVENT score it is, then. I'll have to remember to make a note about that.

ttldomination 05-03-2016 21:37

Re: [FF]: 2016 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Folks,

Just as a reminder, the automated scoring sheet is available here, and the scores are up-to-date as of 7:39 PM on 3/5.

With that being said, I would like to encourage folks to double check the sheet, and please let me know if you find any errors (points missing, missing data, etc.).

Thanks,
- Sunny G.

tindleroot 05-03-2016 23:42

Re: [FF]: 2016 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ttldomination (Post 1551857)
Folks,

Just as a reminder, the automated scoring sheet is available here, and the scores are up-to-date as of 7:39 PM on 3/5.

With that being said, I would like to encourage folks to double check the sheet, and please let me know if you find any errors (points missing, missing data, etc.).

Thanks,
- Sunny G.

I checked FIRST Pick's scores (my team) and came up with the following results:

GTRC: (Automatic) 170, (Us) 165. Update: 4001 only scored 15 award points, not 20 (Creativity).
Lake Superior: Good
Northern Lights: Good
San Diego: (Automatic) 87, (Us) 138. This is probably because of the automated system being outdated.

Also, We only have 35 listed for FIM even though 1025 scored 77 points (again probably the outdated-ness), And I have us for 84 in PNW, not 85. I'm not referencing the other districts since they are incomplete.

I might have made some mistakes since I'm scoring for the first time.

ttldomination 07-03-2016 12:59

Re: [FF]: 2016 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tindleroot (Post 1551934)
I checked FIRST Pick's scores (my team) and came up with the following results:

GTRC: (Automatic) 170, (Us) 165. Update: 4001 only scored 15 award points, not 20 (Creativity).
Lake Superior: Good
Northern Lights: Good
San Diego: (Automatic) 87, (Us) 138. This is probably because of the automated system being outdated.

Also, We only have 35 listed for FIM even though 1025 scored 77 points (again probably the outdated-ness), And I have us for 84 in PNW, not 85. I'm not referencing the other districts since they are incomplete.

I might have made some mistakes since I'm scoring for the first time.


Looking at the issues:

With 4001, the automated system is giving them 5 extra points for the highest score. That would make it a total of 20 for Creativity Award and the Highest Score.

San Diego, I believe the issue was older data. Automated scoring is showing 138 in San Diego for you guys.

FIM, Refreshed data is showing 77 points for you guys.

PNW, Refreshed data is showing 85 points for you guys.

That should address all the issues. In addition, there was an issue with data formatting impacting the MAR district; thanks to Navid for bringing that to my attention.

If there's anything else, please let us know,
- Sunny G.

tindleroot 07-03-2016 14:35

Re: [FF]: 2016 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ttldomination (Post 1552853)
Looking at the issues:

With 4001, the automated system is giving them 5 extra points for the highest score. That would make it a total of 20 for Creativity Award and the Highest Score.

San Diego, I believe the issue was older data. Automated scoring is showing 138 in San Diego for you guys.

FIM, Refreshed data is showing 77 points for you guys.

PNW, Refreshed data is showing 85 points for you guys.

That should address all the issues. In addition, there was an issue with data formatting impacting the MAR district; thanks to Navid for bringing that to my attention.

If there's anything else, please let us know,
- Sunny G.

As of last night, thanks to a missed tie in quals, all of my data matches yours. Thanks for making the automated scoring!

BrennanB 07-03-2016 14:51

Re: [FF]: 2016 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
ULCAN needs a random at GTRC, 4777 didn't compete and has a 0 score.

Also at San diego with 2504

Fun visuals:




Navid Shafa 07-03-2016 19:19

Re: [FF]: 2016 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BrennanB (Post 1552963)
ULCAN needs a random at GTRC, 4777 didn't compete and has a 0 score.

Also at San diego with 2504

Fun visuals:

I fixed those missing teams for The ULCAN, thanks for keeping an eye out. Love the charts, can you keep it up throughout the season? Maybe with a breakdown of Regionals/Districts, and overall weekly changing totals?

tindleroot 08-03-2016 11:00

Re: [FF]: 2016 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
IIRC, inter-district play counts towards the home district as well. In that case, Falcon, The ULCAN, and OrangeJuice should get points respectively for Indiana's 234, 1501, and 5188 who all played in NC last weekend. Similar for other inter-district teams, if there were any others. This should be reflected in the Automated Scoring sheet as well.

Navid Shafa 08-03-2016 11:12

Re: [FF]: 2016 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tindleroot (Post 1553483)
IIRC, inter-district play counts towards the home district as well. In that case, Falcon, The ULCAN, and OrangeJuice should get points respectively for Indiana's 234, 1501, and 5188 who all played in NC last weekend. Similar for other inter-district teams, if there were any others. This should be reflected in the Automated Scoring sheet as well.

Good catch. Yes, I believe it's the average of scores a team receives at every district they compete in (including inter-district play).

BrennanB 09-03-2016 02:15

Re: [FF]: 2016 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Navid Shafa (Post 1553137)
I fixed those missing teams for The ULCAN, thanks for keeping an eye out. Love the charts, can you keep it up throughout the season? Maybe with a breakdown of Regionals/Districts, and overall weekly changing totals?

Good idea and will do :)

ttldomination 13-03-2016 16:47

Re: [FF]: 2016 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tindleroot (Post 1553483)
IIRC, inter-district play counts towards the home district as well. In that case, Falcon, The ULCAN, and OrangeJuice should get points respectively for Indiana's 234, 1501, and 5188 who all played in NC last weekend. Similar for other inter-district teams, if there were any others. This should be reflected in the Automated Scoring sheet as well.

Thanks for bringing this to our attention; we've implemented a fix and the automated scoring should work as expected.

There was also an issue where some week 6 regionals were not showing up. We've made the fix and now all week 6 regionals should be available.

Let us know if there's anything else,
- Sunny G.

BrennanB 13-03-2016 16:48

Re: [FF]: 2016 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Again there are still some randoms that need to be added

Navid Shafa 13-03-2016 16:50

Re: [FF]: 2016 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BrennanB (Post 1556277)
Again there are still some randoms that need to be added

Point them out and I'll make the swaps. I am caught up on roster changes (Other than RFA's last three free trades).

Edit: Added randoms that needed to be filled for no-shows as suggested:

Spoiler for Randoms Filled:

Code:

FF Team        Event        Out        In
Swamp Life        San Diego        5896        4486
The Breakfast Company        Arkansas Rock City        4849        2461
Rotten Fruit Alliance        Arkansas Rock City        4215        2359
The ULCAN        Greater Kansas City        938        3172
The ULCAN        Greater Toronto East        1310        2198
The ULCAN        Orlando Regional        5967        5145


EricH 14-03-2016 00:52

Re: [FF]: 2016 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
I'd like to remind folks that if a team competed in an event this last weekend, they're on waiver until tomorrow night if somebody picks them up.

BrennanB 14-03-2016 01:12

Re: [FF]: 2016 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EricH (Post 1556639)
I'd like to remind folks that if a team competed in an event this last weekend, they're on waiver until tomorrow night if somebody picks them up.

Where is this rule found?

EricH 14-03-2016 01:13

Re: [FF]: 2016 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BrennanB (Post 1556649)
Where is this rule found?

It was put in earlier this season, but didn't make it into the rulebook yet. Gimme a minute to dig up the links.

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...&postcount=248
Discussion started at http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...&postcount=207. I heard no objections at that time, or when I brought it up last week.

BrennanB 14-03-2016 01:17

Re: [FF]: 2016 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EricH (Post 1556650)
It was put in earlier this season, but didn't make it into the rulebook yet. Gimme a minute to dig up the links (there's more than one, because it was discussed back in drafting time).

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...&postcount=248

Perfect thanks. :)

ghostmachine360 15-03-2016 19:59

Re: [FF]: 2016 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
RFA -

NC District:
5511 (OUT), 4290 (IN)

IN District:
4485 (OUT), 4982 (IN)

MAR District:
2729 (OUT), 834 (IN)

MI District:
107 (OUT), 4377 (IN)

CHS District:
1895 (OUT), 2199 (IN)

NE District:
246 (OUT), 4761 (IN)

Anthony Galea 15-03-2016 20:06

Re: [FF]: 2016 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ghostmachine360 (Post 1557920)
RFA -

NC District:
5511 (OUT), 4290 (IN)

IN District:
4485 (OUT), 4982 (IN)

MAR District:
2729 (OUT), 834 (IN)

MI District:
107 (OUT), 4377 (IN)

CHS District:
1895 (OUT), 2199 (IN)

NE District:
246 (OUT), 4761 (IN)

Are we allowed to switch out teams when they have already competed in one district? It would seem like you could compare it to switching out in the middle of an event.

EricH 15-03-2016 20:10

Re: [FF]: 2016 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 3175student17 (Post 1557923)
Are we allowed to switch out teams when they have already competed in one district? It would seem like you could compare it to switching out in the middle of an event.

I checked the rules on that, couldn't find anything.

I'd say ONE event is the limit for district teams. I seem to remember that being the ruling either this year or last year.

ghostmachine360 15-03-2016 20:11

Re: [FF]: 2016 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EricH (Post 1557927)
I checked the rules on that, couldn't find anything.

I'd say ONE event is the limit for district teams. I seem to remember that being the ruling either this year or last year.

I'm looking to find it again, but that's the ruling I was going off from for these changes.

Anthony Galea 15-03-2016 20:20

Re: [FF]: 2016 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EricH (Post 1557927)
I checked the rules on that, couldn't find anything.

I'd say ONE event is the limit for district teams. I seem to remember that being the ruling either this year or last year.

If this is the ruling, I would like to swap 2959 with 3548 and 4362 for 2851 (I know they haven't competed yet, would that only count their second event?) in FiM.

EricH 15-03-2016 20:21

Re: [FF]: 2016 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 3175student17 (Post 1557940)
If this is the ruling, I would like to swap 2959 with 3548 and 4362 for 2851 (I know they haven't competed yet, would that only count their second event?) in FiM.

You'll end up with the average scores based on the alliance you have at the end of the district season.

Navid Shafa 16-03-2016 02:12

Re: [FF]: 2016 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
All swaps have been processed, the Live Scoring sheet is up to date.

BrennanB 17-03-2016 19:59

Re: [FF]: 2016 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
More fun visualizations. If you have any suggestions of things you want to see let me know.

Firstly the overall picture:




Week 2 stats ONLY:




Districts ONLY:


BrennanB 19-03-2016 03:15

Re: [FF]: 2016 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Also we shouldn't have recieved points from 68 since they played in a regional not a district. :ahh:

tindleroot 19-03-2016 10:00

Re: [FF]: 2016 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BrennanB (Post 1559618)
Also we shouldn't have recieved points from 68 since they played in a regional not a district. :ahh:

Tippecanoe was a district event that 68 played at.

BrennanB 19-03-2016 10:45

Re: [FF]: 2016 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tindleroot (Post 1559657)
Tippecanoe was a district event that 68 played at.

Ah right you are. Remind me to not check regional info at 3 am. xD

jlmcmchl 19-03-2016 21:43

Re: [FF]: 2016 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tindleroot (Post 1559657)
Tippecanoe was a district event that 68 played at.

68 is from Brandon / Holly, Michigan. They were competing in Indiana.

This is the same situation as 27 or 217 competing at Buckeye this weekend. They're competing outside of their district. Appropriately so, 27, 68 and 217 do not get points for FiM based on their performances outside FiM.

In addition, 68 could not compete for Chairman's or Engineering Inspiration, as that would require them attending the Indiana District Championship. So they literally could not achieve the same number of points as any other team there, excluding 1701, which is also in the same boat (being from Michigan).

68 should not get FF points for Indiana. We don't allow them to be drafted in Indiana, so they shouldn't get FF points for competing in Indiana.

Navid Shafa 19-03-2016 21:48

Re: [FF]: 2016 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jlmcmchl (Post 1559809)
68 is from Brandon / Holly, Michigan. They were competing in Indiana.

This is the same situation as 27 or 217 competing at Buckeye this weekend. They're competing outside of their district. Appropriately so, 27, 68 and 217 do not get points for FiM based on their performances outside FiM.

In addition, 68 could not compete for Chairman's or Engineering Inspiration, as that would require them attending the Indiana District Championship. So they literally could not achieve the same number of points as any other team there, excluding 1701, which is also in the same boat (being from Michigan).

68 should not get FF points for Indiana. We don't allow them to be drafted in Indiana, so they shouldn't get FF points for competing in Indiana.

Your logic seems sound. I'd be one in favor of modifying the rules now or in the future to perhaps only include the first two events in district that a team competes at. There are other factors like bowing out of playoffs out of state, or at third plays in their own region that may mess with a team's average. It adds an inconsistency across teams that are drafted. Certainly something worth discussing in my opinion.

tindleroot 19-03-2016 23:27

Re: [FF]: 2016 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Navid Shafa (Post 1559810)
Your logic seems sound. I'd be one in favor of modifying the rules now or in the future to perhaps only include the first two events in district that a team competes at. There are other factors like bowing out of playoffs out of state, or at third plays in their own region that may mess with a team's average. It adds an inconsistency across teams that are drafted. Certainly something worth discussing in my opinion.

I would agree that this issue is worth discussing for the future, however, I believe the current ruling should stand through the season as I adjusted my picks accordingly to said rules (and I would suggest anyone do the same - play to the rules laid out even if they don't necessarily make sense).

EricH 19-03-2016 23:33

Re: [FF]: 2016 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tindleroot (Post 1559840)
I would agree that this issue is worth discussing for the future, however, I believe the current ruling should stand through the season as I adjusted my picks accordingly to said rules (and I would suggest anyone do the same - play to the rules laid out even if they don't necessarily make sense).

Same here.

For this season, as noted, district teams playing in district events get their points averaged for all district events (regardless of district location), while district teams playing in regionals get the regional points they earn. Easiest way to sum it up.

For next season... we'll figure that out after the season ends.

tindleroot 20-03-2016 17:19

Re: [FF]: 2016 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
If two alliances are tied for high score, how is that scored? Do all 6 teams receive 5 points?

BrennanB 20-03-2016 19:29

Re: [FF]: 2016 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tindleroot (Post 1560066)
If two alliances are tied for high score, how is that scored? Do all 6 teams receive 5 points?

Yep.

Navid Shafa 20-03-2016 20:05

Re: [FF]: 2016 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
I've got a long list of swaps to process, I checked to make sure they are legal. None of these teams competed this weekend and as such shouldn't be waivers. I'll post when these are implemented.

Code:

FF Team        OUT        IN        Event
TBC        1723        3928        Iowa
TBC        5906        2883        Iowa
TBC        3988        5910        Montreal
TBC        4239        5914        North Star
TBC        3137        2053        SBPLI
TBC        1388        5802        Ventura
TBC        5802        3309        Ventura
TBC        2695        4587        Oklahoma
TBC        5411        3478        Dallas
FP        5762        3661        NC
TBC        4939        5631        Waterloo
TBC        5807        865        North Bay
TBC        4285        5624        MAR
TBC        2635        4131        PNW
TBC        3494        3559        IN
FP        5484        3147        IN

*TBC = TheBreakfastCompany *FP = First Pick

ghostmachine360 21-03-2016 00:33

Re: [FF]: 2016 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Rocket City: 4188 (IN), 1706 (OUT)
Free agent, has been two days since competing.
PCH: 1683 (OUT), 4910 (IN)
Free agent, has been two days since competing.

Navid Shafa 21-03-2016 20:48

Re: [FF]: 2016 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
I've gotten behind... Here's more to add to my processing list:

Code:

FF Team        OUT        IN        Event
FP        3543        5807        North Bay
FP        687        4984        Las Vegas
RFA        1706        4188        Rocket City
RFA        1683        4910        PCH
TBC        1559        3044        Finger Lakes

*Edit, the earlier Oklahoma drop for TBC is 2395 not 2695 as I mistyped...


I'm working on getting caught up as we speak.

Update: All swaps *excluding the Waterloo issue with TBC* have been processed. The scoring sheet has been updated as of 3/21/16, 9:13pm ET

Navid Shafa 21-03-2016 22:45

Re: [FF]: 2016 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Submitting some swaps and going to process the 2 new Waterloo requests as well:

Code:

FF Team        OUT        IN        Event
Ulcan        5719        4940        Waterloo
Ulcan        5158        1285        Waterloo
RFA        1389        5546        CHS
RFA        5112        172        NE
RFA        6012        2197        IN
RFA        3974        5404        MAR
RFA        4749        5632        PCH


Navid Shafa 22-03-2016 11:07

Re: [FF]: 2016 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
TBC is busy, mroe swaps to process:

Code:

FF Team        OUT        IN        Event
TBC        4630        281        Smoky Mountains
TBC        5416        3991        Lone Star
TBC        5872        4240        South Florida
TBC        2028        1389        CHS
TBC        1712        3974        MAR

Edit: All above are processed.
_____________________________

Submitting some more to process:

Code:

FF Team        OUT        IN        Event
RFA        3350        3735        Dallas Regional
RFA        5672        4069        North Bay Regional
RFA        1209        4403        Oklahoma Regional
RFA        2073        2102        Sacramento Regional
RFA        3145        4009        Idaho Regional
FP        314        5926        MI
RFA        3200        2486        Las Vegas


ghostmachine360 22-03-2016 13:22

Re: [FF]: 2016 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
MI: 3688 (IN), 74 (OUT)

thatprogrammer 22-03-2016 15:00

Re: [FF]: 2016 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
NE
out:2170 In 1099
out: 3146 IN 839

BrennanB 22-03-2016 15:35

Re: [FF]: 2016 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
2486 at LVR is a waiver claim. 836 is already picked. Can we put claims in threads instead of here? It's a bit of a pain to have to check here.

Also rule wise. It's kinda crap that the pick stealing strategy has devolved into "wait till they are free agents then pick them"

thatprogrammer 22-03-2016 15:37

Re: [FF]: 2016 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BrennanB (Post 1561300)
2486 at LVR is a waiver claim. 836 is already picked. Can we put claims in threads instead of here? It's a bit of a pain to have to check here.

Yeah, I'd prefer that too. It makes it easier to follow, though having everything in 1 thread makes it easier to update rosters. Can we set it up so it is posted in both?

BrennanB 22-03-2016 15:43

Re: [FF]: 2016 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
4009 is a waiver claim as well

Navid Shafa 22-03-2016 16:14

Re: [FF]: 2016 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BrennanB (Post 1561300)
836 is already picked.

First Pick is trading in 839, which is free?

Here are the list of swaps I just processed:

Code:

FF Team        OUT        IN        Event
RFA        3350        3735        Dallas Regional
RFA        5672        4069        North Bay Regional
RFA        1209        4403        Oklahoma Regional
RFA        2073        2102        Sacramento Regional
FP        314        5926        MI
TBC        2551        2073        Sacramento Regional
RFA        74        3688        MI
FP        2170        1099        NE
FP        3146        839        NE

Yes, you're correct, the other two (2486, 4009) are Waivers, we'll leave those two on the board as submitted waiver claims.

Rangel 22-03-2016 16:36

Re: [FF]: 2016 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BrennanB (Post 1561300)
2486 at LVR is a waiver claim. 836 is already picked. Can we put claims in threads instead of here? It's a bit of a pain to have to check here.

Also rule wise. It's kinda crap that the pick stealing strategy has devolved into "wait till they are free agents then pick them"

I'm not a big fan of being able to trade in teams that have already played. At least them being free trades part. I think they should be waiver teams indefinitely so it's not an arms race to trade in teams once they are free. At least that's what I believed to be the point of FF. To make educated predictions of who will do well and form your team, not they were decent in their last event so lets get them. Idk I'm okay either way but next season it is a change I would like to see.

BrennanB 22-03-2016 16:45

Re: [FF]: 2016 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Navid Shafa (Post 1561336)
First Pick is trading in 839, which is free?

Here are the list of swaps I just processed:

Whoops 839 =/= 836.

My bad.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rangel(kf7fdb) (Post 1561358)
I'm not a big fan of being able to trade in teams that have already played. At least them being free trades part. I think they should be waiver teams indefinitely so it's not an arms race to trade in teams once they are free. At least that's what I believed to be the point of FF. To make educated predictions of who will do well and form your team, not they were decent in their last event so lets get them. Idk I'm okay either way but next season it is a change I would like to see.

I think the reasoning beforehand was that waivers are time consuming for Eric to deal with, which is why it's run like this. But this is the most competitive I have seen FF thusfar, and it might be worth changing


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