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DonRotolo 12-08-2015 20:42

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Originally Posted by efoote868 (Post 1493088)

Details.

Compare and contrast. The crust has a crumbly, pitted texture..

Darn that is a really good rendering of a cheesecake.

In all seriousness, there is no technical issue preventing you from printing a cheesecake, or a pizza for that matter - but you'd still need to bake the pizza.

McD's uses high-speed large-capacity printers, but they've found real wheat buns are more cost-effective.

As for the filament cartridges, Cheddar isn't the right material for this kind of cake.

What's scary about this thread is that it can turn into a real, serious discussion at any moment. And there are people here with the chops to actually do it. I mean, they already print chocolate and cupcake icing...

techhelpbb 12-08-2015 20:57

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Originally Posted by DonRotolo (Post 1493310)
In all seriousness, there is no technical issue preventing you from printing a cheesecake, or a pizza for that matter - but you'd still need to bake the pizza.

Well 3D printers can be enclosed.
Easy Bake ovens are enclosed.

I did once suggest using an incandescent light bulb as a 3D printer enclosure heater.
Turn up the wattage - or better yet - use an infrared lamp and lower it to the pizza to produce localized heating (runs to the pizza patent office).

hectorcastillo 12-08-2015 22:26

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We're coming for you, Papa John's!

Darkseer54 13-08-2015 10:35

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Originally Posted by techhelpbb (Post 1493312)
Well 3D printers can be enclosed.
Easy Bake ovens are enclosed.

I did once suggest using an incandescent light bulb as a 3D printer enclosure heater.
Turn up the wattage - or better yet - use an infrared lamp and lower it to the pizza to produce localized heating (runs to the pizza patent office).

What would be better though, this method or finding a way to heat the bed to a high enough temperature to cook the pizza? I have no experience cooking pizzas so I don't know how they are generally cooked, but wouldn't heating the bed make it so that it wouldn't have to be enclosed? Also I have no idea if a 3d printer's bed can get to a high enough temperature to cook a pizza.

tr6scott 13-08-2015 13:14

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Originally Posted by hectorcastillo (Post 1493056)
The slice is 1.42in tall, has a 2.35in radius, and a 50 degree angle.

Who designs a slice of cheesecake to be 7.2 pieces per whole? No one will settle for the 0.2 piece. That's just crazy talk.

Iter-ate... one more time.

techhelpbb 13-08-2015 14:13

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Originally Posted by Darkseer54 (Post 1493360)
What would be better though, this method or finding a way to heat the bed to a high enough temperature to cook the pizza? I have no experience cooking pizzas so I don't know how they are generally cooked, but wouldn't heating the bed make it so that it wouldn't have to be enclosed? Also I have no idea if a 3d printer's bed can get to a high enough temperature to cook a pizza.

Heated beds from printed circuit boards might survive this. It would probably take several heater cartridges to get the heating even. Then again there is good old nichrome or Inconel wire.

hectorcastillo 13-08-2015 17:56

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Originally Posted by tr6scott (Post 1493375)
Who designs a slice of cheesecake to be 7.2 pieces per whole? No one will settle for the 0.2 piece. That's just crazy talk.

Uhhh... the cake is cone-shaped and there are 350 degrees around the center. I cut it into seven pieces because 7 is a nice number... also America.

DonRotolo 13-08-2015 20:04

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Originally Posted by Darkseer54 (Post 1493360)
I have no experience cooking pizzas so I don't know how they are generally cooked

You need to get out more. Or at least observe more closely. Surely there is a non-chain type Pizzeria near you? Go visit and ask questions (as if you were in the pits at a regional...) Living in northern NJ would help (pizza capitol of the world, arguably).

Pizza ovens are generally at 450 to 500 degrees. They universally have stone 'floors' to maintain the temperature evenly and avoid the cooling effect of an uncooked pizza. So yes, one CAN make a bed that will cook a pizza, but you really want to print it first, then cook it.

Henrique Schmit 15-08-2015 00:05

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Originally Posted by Darkseer54 (Post 1493360)
What would be better though, this method or finding a way to heat the bed to a high enough temperature to cook the pizza? I have no experience cooking pizzas so I don't know how they are generally cooked, but wouldn't heating the bed make it so that it wouldn't have to be enclosed? Also I have no idea if a 3d printer's bed can get to a high enough temperature to cook a pizza.

ABS printers alraedy have heated beds, so you could base your bed on something like that, they go up to ~110ºC

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Originally Posted by hectorcastillo (Post 1493123)
Sadly, no. We couldn't get anyone to agree to this. Our current plan is to print it using an industrial triple injection 3D printer, but instead of feeding it ABS filament, we're going to use cheesecake, whipped cream, and whatever the crust is made of. As you can see, we have left plenty of room in the design for expansion... (i.e. cherries)

Has anyone figured out how to print the irregularities in the cake to make it more accurate and useful? Maybe adding bubbles inside the filament would create a pattern like that

Chief Hedgehog 15-08-2015 01:00

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Originally Posted by DonRotolo (Post 1493421)
Living in northern NJ would help (pizza capitol of the world, arguably).

Ummm... Are we talking per capita? Because here in Becker, MN we have 4 different joints in a town of 4500; or one pizzeria per 1125 residents. And if you include the local bars and c-store, it jumps to 7; or one per 643 residents. Only one is a national chain. We love Pizza and robots here in Becker!

DonRotolo 15-08-2015 14:07

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Originally Posted by Chief Hedgehog (Post 1493525)
Ummm... Are we talking per capita? Because here in Becker, MN we have 4 different joints in a town of 4500; or one pizzeria per 1125 residents. And if you include the local bars and c-store, it jumps to 7; or one per 643 residents. Only one is a national chain. We love Pizza and robots here in Becker!

My focus was on quality and variety, not per capita.

Electronica1 15-08-2015 16:13

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Maybe this style of printer would work for pizza/cheesecake. But, would this be considered a pizza printer?

GeeTwo 15-08-2015 17:28

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Originally Posted by DonRotolo (Post 1493421)
Pizza ovens are generally at 450 to 500 degrees. They universally have stone 'floors' to maintain the temperature evenly and avoid the cooling effect of an uncooked pizza. So yes, one CAN make a bed that will cook a pizza, but you really want to print it first, then cook it.

Yes, yes. An automated pizza baker would definitely have to have separate construction and baking chambers; unless you print the bubbles in, the crust has to have time to rise at a lower temperature, and go quickly to a much higher one. (I suppose you could move the pre-heated stone to the pizza, but that sounds even more problematic.) I also seriously doubt that current 3-D technology can passably reproduce a hand-tossed and pressed crust, or even a machine-kneaded and rolled one.

Darkseer54 23-08-2015 20:38

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It seems that we have been beaten to the punch on pizza 3D printers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGxr3boyIus

Now the real question is if it can add pineapple and ham.


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