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ShaneP 04-09-2015 13:25

Re: Question for FRC Game Animations 2008-2014
 
As much as we love Dozer, he doesn't have an arm and a big yellow sprocket so he can't be ours.

Trevor1523 04-09-2015 13:27

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Originally Posted by BrennanB (Post 1495126)
The only question is... Which of these teams kept bringing dozer/plowie to the field?

The only robot I can think of that fits the category would be 148 in 2008. :P

Alex2614 04-09-2015 13:32

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Originally Posted by logank013 (Post 1495194)
Haha. I always love how Dozer always somehow works for every game. Basically, every year requires driving and that's all Dozer does :) They need to keep the same design but add something of some sort. Haha

2011 he had a mini-bot deployment system. :)

GeeTwo 04-09-2015 14:36

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Originally Posted by logank013 (Post 1495168)
..needs to learn that using the same robot for 7 games isn't a good idea.

So do the other five teams .. or maybe they do bring a different robot each year and rotate among the three on the alliance?

EricH 04-09-2015 20:24

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Originally Posted by GeeTwo (Post 1495206)
So do the other five teams .. or maybe they do bring a different robot each year and rotate among the three on the alliance?

The OTHER robots were all different every year. The differences could be rather subtle, but they were there. Dozer's main changes were number of wheels and addition of bumpers (and, in '08, he had an engine put on).

GeeTwo 04-09-2015 21:28

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Originally Posted by EricH (Post 1495242)
The OTHER robots were all different every year. The differences could be rather subtle, but they were there. Dozer's main changes were number of wheels and addition of bumpers (and, in '08, he had an engine put on).

And the difference between "number of wheels and addition of bumpers" for Dozer and "subtle changes" for the other five robots was what, exactly? I'll grant that I have not watched the reveals pre-2013 like I was going to build them, but my general impression as I watched reveal videos for 2013 and 2014 was that it was the same six robots, with minor tweaks. My later viewings of earlier reveal videos (without the same immediacy) did not make me think otherwise.

And OBTW, my first three years of reveal videos has taught me that reveal videos, fully as much as the cake, and nearly as much as each of Dave's off-the-cuff hints, LIES. The hardest thing about each game (defense, defense, and litter, including not only defense nodles but game pieces dropped by you or your alliance partners) was massively underplayed in the video each of those three years.

OK, I've watched a few more, and it still looks like somebody comes to each show with a multi-jointed are, somebody comes with a single-joninted arm, and somebody comes with a tennis racket. The other two have a good bit more variation.

Second Edit: Now that I've watched more of the videos specifically looking at the robots, I do see that many of them had variation. However, single-arm, multi-arm, and tennis racket were pretty well represented throughout (as well as dozer), plus a number of utterly unexplained shooters. It seems like nearly every robot through these years had a magical magnetic field it could set up to attract that year's game piece into the manipulator, and turn off when it activated its kicker, shooter, or other launcher.

EricH 04-09-2015 21:32

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Originally Posted by GeeTwo (Post 1495252)
And the difference between "number of wheels and addition of bumpers" for Dozer and "subtle changes" for the other five robots was what, exactly? I'll grant that I have not watched the reveals pre-2013 like I was going to build them, but my general impression as I watched reveal videos for 2013 and 2014 was that it was the same six robots, with minor tweaks. My later viewings of earlier reveal videos (without the same immediacy) did not make me think otherwise.

Different grippers, different arms, different manipulators, they're all out there. Like many FRC robot teams, there is a "common core" that is built on, but the build-on is different every year.


I do recall Dave saying something to that effect, but it was *just* a *couple* years ago (er, closer to a decade).

Gregor 04-09-2015 23:31

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Summer CD...

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Originally Posted by GeeTwo (Post 1495252)
And OBTW, my first three years of reveal videos has taught me that reveal videos, fully as much as the cake, and nearly as much as each of Dave's off-the-cuff hints, LIES. The hardest thing about each game (defense, defense, and litter, including not only defense nodles but game pieces dropped by you or your alliance partners) was massively underplayed in the video each of those three years.

Great observation!

logank013 05-09-2015 08:34

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Originally Posted by GeeTwo (Post 1495206)
So do the other five teams .. or maybe they do bring a different robot each year and rotate among the three on the alliance?

Haha. True. But Plowie/Dozer is always the "runt" the other bits can actually score a lot of points with their use of plungers 😂😂

EricH 05-09-2015 12:37

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Originally Posted by logank013 (Post 1495272)
Haha. True. But Plowie/Dozer is always the "runt" the other bits can actually score a lot of points with their use of plungers 😂😂

FTFY.

Actually, someone did analysis a year or two ago and found that Dozer is actually at least competitive in any game he's played, in terms of points scored or assisted.


Dozer also provides the comic relief. The little guy who's always getting beat up...


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