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I saw the PNW district diagram, and never heard of a Voronoi diagram I thought I would check it out. I used the site http://lpetrich.org/Science/Geometry...Demo_GMap.html but could not figure out how to save the data points, so it would be more dynamic.

I was interested in seeing how the new Marysville district impacted the home venues for some of the teams we typically run up against. Also with the elimination of the Bedford district, what impact that had to the down river teams.

Also the tip of the thumb data is inaccurate, as has them competing in Saginaw, but interesting.

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Has this actually been confirmed?
There are only 18 districts currently listed for FiM, and I expect anywhere from 20-22 for the 2016 season. My assumption was that they had not agreed upon a hosting week yet.
If confirmed, anyone know why they are pulling back?

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The absolute straight-line distances don't take into account that sometimes "you can't get there from here." For example, the tip of the thumb is split off, presumably to the Standish event, when in reality it would be much shorter for them to go to Marysville, Flint or Midland.

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Gary: the other half of the state does show Standish as the thumb tip's "home" location.

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Nothing confirmed, just going by what is posted as of today on http://www.usfirst.org/roboticsprogr...egional-events

It may be that they are holding it in reserve to see how many rookie teams get added.

Just based on what is published... and that registration for home events opens this Thursday.

Seeing the current schedule has:

4 events week 1 Kettering, Southfield, Standish, Waterford
2 events week 2 Gull Lake, St. Joesph
3 events week 3 Centerline, Escanaba, Midland
4 events week 4 GVSU, Livonia, Marysville, Mason
3 events week 5 Howell, East Kentwood, Troy
2 events week 6 Woodhaven, Traverse City

It would seem if they need to add it would be week 2 and week 6.

When I first looked at this I thought there was a typo, as they had 4 week 1 events, and only 2 week two, but now with Week 4 with 4 events... I think it is not in error, they will have to have 4 fields in Michigan.

It all depends on how new rookies are added and how many rookies are still viable after the 1st and 2nd years.

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My understanding is that Bedford district will not be occurring this year. I also believe that the other events are just about set, but just have yet to be announced (hopefully FiM will be forthcoming with that information, oh wait they've never been forthcoming with information).

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I heard a semi-official rumor that there will be something like 20 district events this year. No idea where they will be (*fingers crossed for Sault Ste. Marie*)

Using some math, 18 events can support 18*40/2=360 teams (assuming 40 team event, 2 plays for everyone). Last year, Michigan had 347 teams. So, if the state grows by even +14 teams, they will NEED a 19th event. Midland moved from week 2 to week 3, but that may well have been a schedule conflict coming up at Midland itself (and not necessarily working around an unannounced event).

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Speaking of being forthcoming, has FiM ever released a list of who was assigned where in past years or do you just have to infer based on when teams register?

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I have not seen a list published. About 5 years ago I asked for our home event be changed from Waterford to Kettering. Kettering was (and is) a sponsor for the team, and we wanted to build on that relationship.

We were denied, I looked for the information published at that time, and could not find any.

I have not looked in earnest since then.

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The Gary edit. :)

tip of thumb edit by Scott McBride, on Flickr

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How do districts work in Michigan? Do they have to play their 2 events in their smaller sub-district or are these sub-districts showing how the teams inside their sub-district will probably go to their events in their sub district? Does that make sense? Haha. Thanks

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This map is just a distance measurement of what is probably your "home" event (ie, the event closest to you). At initial signup (this Thursday) we get to accept or reject the home event. At second event signup, we get to pick any other one that has room.

For example, for the last two years and this year our home event is Escanaba and our second closest event is Traverse City. But last year (because shenanigans) we went to Kentwood as the non-home event. And this year, Traverse City being a week 6 is making us look at other options.

But no, there is no sub-districting (this map's subdistricts are for administrative purposes and have no bearing on teams).

Edit: Seeing you're from Indiana - having a map like this is nice because we have a metric ton more events than Indiana with a more interestingly shaped state.

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That information for the 2015 season is available in the below spreadsheet. It was sent out last September 23rd (2014), so it's not perfectly up-to-date (e.g. rookies don't have numbers). I don't have and am not aware of any source for this information for any other year.

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Haha. Yeah. You guys have a lot more events than us. Our team is actually looking at going to an FiM event so that's why I was curious. So do the "home teams" in their "home district" have "first dibs" on that event if they have too many people sign up for that event? Like, I'd be guaranteed to go to my "home event" no matter what? Thanks

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According to what I understand is that FiM has first dibs on the events then out of district teams do after all Michigan teams have but a according to first this what they said on iter-district play for 2015 "FIRST will collaborate with FIRST HQ to fill any “open” district event spots with teams from other districts. An “open district spot” is defined as a spot that remains open after all teams in a district have had the opportunity to sign up for their two events plus any additional plays they desire."

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Pretty Much Yes... When Registration Opens for the first time, this Thursday, the choice is do you accept your home event, or do you decline your home event.

If you decline, then when registration opens up for the second event, you are trying to register for two events.

The kicker to this is FiM will hold some registration spots in reserve, for rookie teams that are in the process of forming. Last two years this reserve was 10 teams, so when registration opens for the first and second times, you are registering for events that only have a 30 team capacity. This tends to fill up fast, and ends with many teams being wait listed, and not sure of where they will compete until weeks into the build season. Which just adds stress to the whole process.

So my advise is if you can make your home event, better register for it on Thursday. :)

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I see. So I take it registration for out of district teams get to register after all teams in Fim have registered for 2 events? And will event teams list be updated on the us first website as teams sign up for the events? I found 2015 Fim districts interesting last year so I'm curious to see which FiM teams will be at which events. Thanks

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I generally keep a google spreadsheet that tracks just FiM registration stats. I'll probably post a link in the main registration thread when that pops up, but if I don't and/or you can't find it (because that thread blows up) PM me and I'll send you the link.

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Thanks. As a scouter, I always enjoy a good spreadsheet ;)

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Actually I believe out-of-district teams go after in-district 3rd event registration.

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Yes.

Just received email about home events from FiM, below is the list of teams and assigned home events.

345 teams listed.

Teams per Home event.
17 Waterford
23 Livonia
39 Kettering
20 West Michigan
21 Southfield
30 Centerline
14 Troy
17 Kentwood
18 Woodhaven
19 Midland
16 Escanaba
16 St. Joseph
12 Howell
14 Lansing
29 Traverse City
21 Gull Lake
7 Marysville
12 Standish-Sterling

So if they reserve 10 registration spots for rookies.
Kettering will be wait listed, Centerline and Traverse City will be full after round 1 of registration.

Also of note of the "Gary" rule did not apply, my friends the Ubly Bearcats that is in the middle of the thumb, team 5155 Home event is Standish.
Ubly to Marysville 75 miles
Ubly to Midland 72 miles
Ubly to Standish 86 miles

Standish has 12 home teams, Marysville has 7.

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So I just thought of this. With event registration coming up this week, when will a list be published will all the new rookie teams joining FIRST? Thanks

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That list is really never finalized, pretty sure you can join anytime. In practice, it doesn't make much sense to join much after kickoff. Teams that join just prior to kickoff, get a temporary number, and when a number is finalized they will show up on the FIRST website.

Last year rookie teams were showing up new the third week of build season.

That is why the hold spots in registration process.

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FIRST's website doesn't yet show it, but FIM will have a 19th district event in Bloomfield Hills week 2 (or misspelled as Bloomfiled Hills).

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I'm not seeing that event on the FiM site. Was it removed in the last few days?

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Hmm, looks like they did remove it. Hopefully they make up their mind about it.

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Yes, it looks to be gone...

I am sure it will come back if the rookie numbers push us into it, but as of right now there enough spots for everyone to play there 2 districts.

(nice for them to tip their hand though)

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And now the USFIRST website is showing Kettering University Event #2 in week 2.