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Christopher149 03-11-2015 13:56

Re: Registration 2016
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Taylor (Post 1502959)
#splitchigan

I would not be surprised by a split MSC.

We know in 2015 that percentage-wise, Michigan would send ~70 teams to CMP, and MSC was 102 teams. Coming 2017 with SplitCMP, number of CMP teams will go from 600 to 800, so a 33% increase there means Michigan sends 93 teams (assuming constant ratio, but Michigan is still increasing fast).

So, maybe MSC West in the DeltaPlex and MSC East at EMU, about 60 teams each? Or put MSC in Cobo.

Hallry 03-11-2015 14:05

Re: Registration 2016
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Taylor (Post 1502959)
#splitchigan

#2Chigan

Richard Wallace 03-11-2015 15:31

Re: Registration 2016
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Aren Siekmeier (Post 1502925)
Michigan over 400 :ahh:

So proportionally, Michigan will have 80 teams at CMP. Ten per division. Game announcers will be saying "and from <locality> Michigan, Team <nnnn>" before more matches than not. Maybe they'll make a special announcement when a match does not feature a Michigan team. :rolleyes:

Nyxyxylyth 04-11-2015 08:53

Re: Registration 2016
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Christopher149 (Post 1502965)
I would not be surprised by a split MSC.

We know in 2015 that percentage-wise, Michigan would send ~70 teams to CMP, and MSC was 102 teams. Coming 2017 with SplitCMP, number of CMP teams will go from 600 to 800, so a 33% increase there means Michigan sends 93 teams (assuming constant ratio, but Michigan is still increasing fast).

So, maybe MSC West in the DeltaPlex and MSC East at EMU, about 60 teams each? Or put MSC in Cobo.

Splitting it would be nicer than another looooong day with octofinals.

Kevin Leonard 04-11-2015 09:29

Re: Registration 2016
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hallry (Post 1502967)
#2Chigan

#2Mich?
Its actually not a bad idea. But only once real inter-district play is in place. I'd hate to have teams that are friends from opposite peninsulas not getting to see each other anymore.

Christopher149 04-11-2015 09:51

Re: Registration 2016
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin Leonard (Post 1503098)
#2Mich?
Its actually not a bad idea. But only once real inter-district play is in place. I'd hate to have teams that are friends from opposite peninsulas not getting to see each other anymore.

It'd be more like friends from Detroit / Not-Detroit not getting to see each other anymore. In 2016, there's only like 28 teams in the Upper Peninsula, and about 400 in the Lower Peninsula.

Jimmy Nichols 04-11-2015 10:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin Leonard (Post 1503098)
I'd hate to have teams that are friends from opposite peninsulas not getting to see each other anymore.

Districts in general have caused that to happen for us traditional regional teams.

logank013 04-11-2015 11:09

Re: Registration 2016
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin Leonard (Post 1503098)
#2Mich?
Its actually not a bad idea. But only once real inter-district play is in place. I'd hate to have teams that are friends from opposite peninsulas not getting to see each other anymore.

Isn't this what happens every time you make a district? The team I'm on in Indiana now never sees teams from our surrounding state like we used to.

Mark McLeod 04-11-2015 11:14

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2 Attachment(s)
Looking at rookie growth in areas that don't have many teams.
The attached chart emphasizes the rookie vs veteran team ratio (as of today's registration).

# rookies / # veterans / % growth / Country
------ 2 -------- 1 ----- 200.0% ----- Colombia
----- 17 ------ 15 ----- 113.3% ----- China
------ 1 -------- 1 ----- 100.0% ----- Taiwan
------ 8 -------- 8 ----- 100.0% ----- Turkey
----- 13 ------ 18 ------ 72.2% ------ Australia
------ 1 -------- 2 ------ 50.0% ------ Netherlands
----- 14 ------ 33 ------ 42.4% ------ Mexico
------ 1 -------- 5 ------ 20.0% ------ Brazil
----- 28 ----- 178 ------ 15.7% ----- Canada
------ 7 ------- 50 ------ 14.0% ----- Israel
---- 238 --- 2356 ------ 10.1% ----- USA
------ 1 -------- 0 ----- 100.0% ----- CzechRepublic
------ 1 -------- 0 ----- 100.0% ----- Ecuador
------ 1 -------- 0 ----- 100.0% ----- India
------ 1 -------- 0 ----- 100.0% ----- Poland


Here is a larger breakdown by state and country:
# rookies / # veterans / % / State-Country
----- 2 ------ 1 ----- 200.0% ---- Colombia
---- 17 ---- 15 ----- 113.3% ---- China
----- 1 ------ 0 ----- 100.0% ---- Canada-BC
----- 1 ------ 0 ----- 100.0% ---- CzechRepublic
----- 1 ------ 0 ----- 100.0% ---- Ecuador
----- 1 ------ 0 ----- 100.0% ---- India
----- 1 ------ 0 ----- 100.0% ---- NE
----- 1 ------ 0 ----- 100.0% ---- Poland
----- 1 ------ 1 ----- 100.0% ---- Taiwan
----- 8 ------ 8 ----- 100.0% ---- Turkey
---- 13 ---- 18 ------ 72.2% ----- Australia
----- 1 ------ 2 ------ 50.0% ----- Netherlands
----- 3 ------ 7 ------ 42.9% ----- AL
---- 14 ---- 33 ------ 42.4% ----- Mexico
----- 1 ------ 3 ------ 33.3% ----- DE
----- 7 ---- 22 ------ 31.8% ----- LA
----- 2 ------ 8 ------ 25.0% ----- IA
----- 1 ------ 5 ------ 20.0% ----- Brazil
----- 1 ------ 5 ------ 20.0% ----- RI
---- 66 -- 341 ------ 19.4% ----- MI
----- 3 ---- 16 ------ 18.8% ----- Canada-AB
----- 2 ---- 11 ------ 18.2% ----- ID
----- 6 ---- 39 ------ 15.4% ----- Canada-QC
---- 18 -- 122 ------ 14.8% ----- Canada-ON
----- 2 ---- 14 ------ 14.3% ----- AR
----- 5 ---- 35 ------ 14.3% ----- MD
---- 15 -- 105 ------ 14.3% ----- TX
----- 7 ---- 50 ------ 14.0% ----- Israel
----- 6 ---- 45 ------ 13.3% ----- OH
----- 6 ---- 46 ------ 13.0% ----- NC
---- 29 -- 227 ------ 12.8% ----- CA
----- 1 ------ 8 ------ 12.5% ----- MS
----- 2 ---- 16 ------ 12.5% ----- UT
----- 7 ---- 62 ------ 11.3% ----- FL
----- 1 ------ 9 ------ 11.1% ----- NV
----- 6 ---- 57 ------ 10.5% ----- GA
----- 4 ---- 39 ------ 10.3% ----- OR
----- 4 ---- 40 ------ 10.0% ----- WI
----- 6 ---- 65 ------- 9.2% ----- MO
----- 9 --- 105 ------- 8.6% ----- WA
----- 4 ---- 47 ------- 8.5% ----- OK
----- 6 ---- 72 ------- 8.3% ----- VA
----- 4 ---- 62 ------- 6.5% ----- MA
---- 12 -- 186 ------- 6.5% ----- MN
----- 2 ---- 31 ------- 6.5% ----- NH
----- 3 ---- 47 ------- 6.4% ----- IN
----- 4 ---- 66 ------- 6.1% ----- NJ
----- 3 ---- 56 ------- 5.4% ----- IL
----- 1 ---- 20 ------- 5.0% ----- KS
----- 7 -- 140 ------- 5.0% ----- NY
----- 2 ---- 45 ------- 4.4% ----- AZ
----- 1 ---- 31 ------- 3.2% ----- TN
----- 1 ---- 36 ------- 2.8% ----- CO
----- 1 ---- 39 ------- 2.6% ----- SC
----- 1 ---- 46 ------- 2.2% ----- CT

tindleroot 04-11-2015 11:25

Re: Registration 2016
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by logank013 (Post 1503110)
Isn't this what happens every time you make a district? The team I'm on in Indiana now never sees teams from our surrounding state like we used to.

Michigan has been in districts since '09 and many teams have gotten very close over those years. Separation might be necessary soon, but it will be sad for many of those Michigan teams who will stop competing together.

first3234 04-11-2015 11:37

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I think I should clear what I meant in my last post I didn't mean split Michigan in to two separate districts I meant a district competition

Taylor 04-11-2015 11:42

Re: Registration 2016
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by logank013 (Post 1503110)
Isn't this what happens every time you make a district? The team I'm on in Indiana now never sees teams from our surrounding state like we used to.

Which is why offseason events like CORI, RAGE, CAGE, Battle for the Bluegrass, etc., are so important.

Jared Russell 04-11-2015 12:02

Re: Registration 2016
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark McLeod (Post 1503112)
Looking at rookie growth in areas that don't have many teams.
The attached chart emphasizes the rookie vs veteran team ratio (as of today's registration).

# rookies / # veterans / % growth / Country
------ 2 -------- 1 ----- 200.0% ----- Colombia
----- 17 ------ 15 ----- 113.3% ----- China
------ 1 -------- 1 ----- 100.0% ----- Taiwan
------ 8 -------- 8 ----- 100.0% ----- Turkey
----- 13 ------ 18 ------ 72.2% ------ Australia
------ 1 -------- 2 ------ 50.0% ------ Netherlands
----- 14 ------ 33 ------ 42.4% ------ Mexico
------ 1 -------- 5 ------ 20.0% ------ Brazil
----- 28 ----- 178 ------ 15.7% ----- Canada
------ 7 ------- 50 ------ 14.0% ----- Israel
---- 238 --- 2356 ------ 10.1% ----- USA
------ 1 -------- 0 ----- 100.0% ----- CzechRepublic
------ 1 -------- 0 ----- 100.0% ----- Ecuador
------ 1 -------- 0 ----- 100.0% ----- India
------ 1 -------- 0 ----- 100.0% ----- Poland


Here is a larger breakdown by state and country:
# rookies / # veterans / % / State-Country
----- 2 ------ 1 ----- 200.0% ---- Colombia
---- 17 ---- 15 ----- 113.3% ---- China
----- 1 ------ 0 ----- 100.0% ---- Canada-BC
----- 1 ------ 0 ----- 100.0% ---- CzechRepublic
----- 1 ------ 0 ----- 100.0% ---- Ecuador
----- 1 ------ 0 ----- 100.0% ---- India
----- 1 ------ 0 ----- 100.0% ---- NE
----- 1 ------ 0 ----- 100.0% ---- Poland
----- 1 ------ 1 ----- 100.0% ---- Taiwan
----- 8 ------ 8 ----- 100.0% ---- Turkey
---- 13 ---- 18 ------ 72.2% ----- Australia
----- 1 ------ 2 ------ 50.0% ----- Netherlands
----- 3 ------ 7 ------ 42.9% ----- AL
---- 14 ---- 33 ------ 42.4% ----- Mexico
----- 1 ------ 3 ------ 33.3% ----- DE
----- 7 ---- 22 ------ 31.8% ----- LA
----- 2 ------ 8 ------ 25.0% ----- IA
----- 1 ------ 5 ------ 20.0% ----- Brazil
----- 1 ------ 5 ------ 20.0% ----- RI
---- 66 -- 341 ------ 19.4% ----- MI
----- 3 ---- 16 ------ 18.8% ----- Canada-AB
----- 2 ---- 11 ------ 18.2% ----- ID
----- 6 ---- 39 ------ 15.4% ----- Canada-QC
---- 18 -- 122 ------ 14.8% ----- Canada-ON
----- 2 ---- 14 ------ 14.3% ----- AR
----- 5 ---- 35 ------ 14.3% ----- MD
---- 15 -- 105 ------ 14.3% ----- TX
----- 7 ---- 50 ------ 14.0% ----- Israel
----- 6 ---- 45 ------ 13.3% ----- OH
----- 6 ---- 46 ------ 13.0% ----- NC
---- 29 -- 227 ------ 12.8% ----- CA
----- 1 ------ 8 ------ 12.5% ----- MS
----- 2 ---- 16 ------ 12.5% ----- UT
----- 7 ---- 62 ------ 11.3% ----- FL
----- 1 ------ 9 ------ 11.1% ----- NV
----- 6 ---- 57 ------ 10.5% ----- GA
----- 4 ---- 39 ------ 10.3% ----- OR
----- 4 ---- 40 ------ 10.0% ----- WI
----- 6 ---- 65 ------- 9.2% ----- MO
----- 9 --- 105 ------- 8.6% ----- WA
----- 4 ---- 47 ------- 8.5% ----- OK
----- 6 ---- 72 ------- 8.3% ----- VA
----- 4 ---- 62 ------- 6.5% ----- MA
---- 12 -- 186 ------- 6.5% ----- MN
----- 2 ---- 31 ------- 6.5% ----- NH
----- 3 ---- 47 ------- 6.4% ----- IN
----- 4 ---- 66 ------- 6.1% ----- NJ
----- 3 ---- 56 ------- 5.4% ----- IL
----- 1 ---- 20 ------- 5.0% ----- KS
----- 7 -- 140 ------- 5.0% ----- NY
----- 2 ---- 45 ------- 4.4% ----- AZ
----- 1 ---- 31 ------- 3.2% ----- TN
----- 1 ---- 36 ------- 2.8% ----- CO
----- 1 ---- 39 ------- 2.6% ----- SC
----- 1 ---- 46 ------- 2.2% ----- CT

It would also be interesting to look at these stats aggregated for each of the district areas.

I find it very interesting that Michigan continues to see 20% year-over-year growth while MAR and NE are well below the average. I am a big proponent of districts for a lot of reasons, but it seems like their introduction alone has not had a major impact on growth trends.

Lil' Lavery 04-11-2015 13:12

Re: Registration 2016
 
Michigan's growth is almost certainly related to the state funding for teams.

Mark McLeod 04-11-2015 14:38

Re: Registration 2016
 
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Looked at by System (District or Regional)
Teams registered to date

Rookies / Veterans / ratio of rookies to vets / System
---- 66 ----- 341 ---- 19.4% ----- FIM
--- 217 --- 1645 ----- 13.2% ----- Regional
----- 6 ------ 46 ----- 13.0% ---- NC
----- 6 ------ 57 ----- 10.5% ---- GA
---- 11 ---- 121 ------ 9.1% ----- Chesapeake
---- 13 ---- 145 ------ 9.0% ----- PNW
----- 3 ------ 47 ----- 6.4% ----- IN
----- 5 ----- 110 ----- 4.5% ----- MAR
----- 7 ----- 167 ----- 4.2% ----- NE


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