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Zebra_Fact_Man 24-11-2015 05:02

Re: Registration 2016
 
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Originally Posted by Christopher149 (Post 1507544)
...Michigan is going to have to go out of state if it wants third plays.

Not particularly happy about that.

first3234 24-11-2015 07:18

Re: Registration 2016
 
Yea plus not to mention not all Michigan teams get there two district competitions

Aren Siekmeier 24-11-2015 07:21

Re: Registration 2016
 
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Originally Posted by first3234 (Post 1507572)
Yea plus not to mention not all Michigan teams get there two district competitions

This should not be the case? With 21 events at a capacity of 40, there are 840 spots, which is more than twice the Michigan total of 418. There may be 4 third plays in Michigan.

I'm sure FiM is not giving all these spots out immediately, to make sure everyone gets events close enough to home and teams are evenly spread out. I can't imagine anyone won't get their two events.

Foster 24-11-2015 08:07

Re: Registration 2016
 
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Originally Posted by Mark McLeod (Post 1507534)
Registration closed at noon today at 3163 teams.
It's increased by two teams since then, so FIRST is not quite done yet.

That's a pretty impressive jump over last years numbers. Mark, once the dust settles, can you post the graph that you started this thread with (bar chart with lost, current, resurrected, new teams) to see the 2015/2016 changes.

Question time: Is the growth due to STEM being in the front of lots of schools. Delaware did "Race to the Top" and did lots of great stuff with the money. Looks like Delaware has two new teams this year.

Or is it because the business world is picking up, there is new sponsor money available? We should be seeing more and more FRC college grads (High school class of 2012 and earlier) in the workplace? Should be ~200,000 FRC alumni out there)

Or is it because districts make it a better value proposition for teams?

Or is it because FIRST has done a good job in advertising and reaching into businesses to get support to start teams?

logank013 24-11-2015 10:17

Re: Registration 2016
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Christopher149 (Post 1507544)
And Michigan's at 418 teams. Michigan is going to have to go out of state if it wants third plays.

1 open spot at IN Walker Warren Event...

Mark McLeod 27-11-2015 10:04

Re: Registration 2016
 
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Originally Posted by Foster (Post 1507581)
Mark, once the dust settles, can you post the graph that you started this thread with (bar chart with lost, current, resurrected, new teams) to see the 2015/2016 changes.

There still remains some settling to wait out, but here is that graph as of today.
Team retention won't be accurate until the payments start failing to come in.

Resurrected veteran teams (those returning after a hiatus of some years) are significantly lower than in previous years-one returning team has been gone 8 years, but team retention (before payments are all in) is also higher than normal.

Here are the percentages:
  • 9.6% growth (2015 was 6.8%)
  • 13.2% are new teams (about the same as last season)
  • 7.8% of the lost teams were offset by recovered vets (2015 was 10.8%)
  • ~95% Team retention (2015 was ~93%)
  • 17 resurrected veteran teams
  • 7 new "vets"
  • 410 rookies
  • 2737 returning vets
  • 155 vets missing
summary data: http://www.team358.org/files/frc_rec...istrations.xls

Mark McLeod 27-11-2015 11:27

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24 countries are now represented (in order of # of teams):

USA
Canada
Israel
Mexico
Australia
China
Turkey
Brazil
Colombia
Netherlands
Taiwan
Chile
Dominican Republic
Japan
United Kingdom
Bosnia-Herzegovina
Czech Republic
Denmark
Ecuador
France
Germany
India
Poland
Singapore

The team from United Arab Emirates is missing, but the Bosnia-Herzegovina team from three years ago is back.

Mark McLeod 27-11-2015 11:46

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Teams missing from last season are from these places (# missing / place):
12 ---- CA
10 ---- TX
10 ---- TN
9 ----- Canada-ON
7 ----- Canada-AB
6 ----- MN
6 ----- Israel
5 ----- WA
5 ----- PA
5 ----- NY
5 ----- MI
4 ----- VA
4 ----- UT
4 ----- OH
4 ----- NJ
4 ----- China
4 ----- Canada-QC
4 ----- AZ
3 ----- OR
3 ----- NC
3 ----- Mexico
3 ----- IN
3 ----- GA
3 ----- AR
2 ----- SC
2 ----- NH
2 ----- MD
2 ----- HI
2 ----- FL
2 ----- Australia
1 ----- WI
1 ----- United Arab Emirates
1 ----- RI
1 ----- OK
1 ----- NV
1 ----- MT
1 ----- MO
1 ----- ME
1 ----- MA
1 ----- LA
1 ----- KS
1 ----- IL
1 ----- IA
1 ----- DE
1 ----- CT
1 ----- Columbia
1 ----- Canada-BC
1 ----- AL

Big Ideas 27-11-2015 12:16

Re: Registration 2016
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark McLeod (Post 1508067)
Teams missing from last season are from these places (# missing / place):
12 ---- CA
10 ---- TX
10 ---- TN
9 ----- Canada-ON
7 ----- Canada-AB
6 ----- MN
6 ----- Israel
5 ----- WA
5 ----- PA
5 ----- NY
5 ----- MI
4 ----- VA
4 ----- UT
4 ----- OH
4 ----- NJ
4 ----- China
4 ----- Canada-QC
4 ----- AZ
3 ----- OR
3 ----- NC
3 ----- Mexico
3 ----- IN
3 ----- GA
3 ----- AR
2 ----- SC
2 ----- NH
2 ----- MD
2 ----- HI
2 ----- FL
2 ----- Australia
1 ----- WI
1 ----- United Arab Emirates
1 ----- RI
1 ----- OK
1 ----- NV
1 ----- MT
1 ----- MO
1 ----- ME
1 ----- MA
1 ----- LA
1 ----- KS
1 ----- IL
1 ----- IA
1 ----- DE
1 ----- CT
1 ----- Columbia
1 ----- Canada-BC
1 ----- AL

Fun with numbers. It would be interesting to see how this changes looking at the "per capita" for the groups (eg 12 CA_missing/240 CA_current=5%)

I suspect that TN and Israel are harder hit with losses then CA or MI. Question, how can stable teams hear about struggling teams soon enough so they can help them. Potentially keeping some from being lost teams. Are growth initiatives different and compatible with retention initiatives?

Thanks for the data.

Jimmy Nichols 30-11-2015 10:28

Re: Registration 2016
 
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Originally Posted by Mark McLeod (Post 1508062)
[*]7 new "vets"

Back in '94 P&G started 2 teams, one at Walnut Hills HS and one at Aiken HS. the Aiken HS team competed in '94 and '95, where as the Walnut Hills team competed for several years, then went to Northwest HS(144) and then to Lakota East HS(1038). Since then The Northwest team started back up and took on the original 144 number. Team 6084 is at Aiken HS and received a new number because when they quit competing in '95, teams had not been assigned numbers yet. I'm not sure why they didn't try to get an older number, but at this point there is no originial mentors or sponsors involved.

cadandcookies 30-11-2015 11:37

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Can I ask what's up with Tennessee? Looks like they had a net loss of 9 teams this year (+1 rookie, -10 veterans). Was there a major loss of funding or just bad luck?

guniv 30-11-2015 12:02

Re: Registration 2016
 
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Originally Posted by cadandcookies (Post 1508779)
Can I ask what's up with Tennessee? Looks like they had a net loss of 9 teams this year (+1 rookie, -10 veterans). Was there a major loss of funding or just bad luck?

Not really sure. Knoxville has just over 10 teams in the area and has a regional here so we're isolated from everyone else, but I know that TNFIRST doesn't do much more than plan the regional and only seems to work with teams in the Knox-area. The only other things I see them do other than the regional is the kickoff and they got teams one sponsor last year. Memphis has a lot of teams too and they have their own support network there separate from TNFIRST, and I know I see them update a blog a lot. We don't see many of those teams over here because there are regionals closer to them than SMR.

I suspect the team losses are from rural areas. I know in Knoxville that we have a hard time securing decent funding and can't imagine how rural teams could sustain without the rookie grants. Knoxville is fortunate to be next to Oak Ridge where Oak Ridge National Laboratory and the Y-12 National Security Complex are, so many Knox teams have mentors from these organizations and receive significant sponsorships as a result.

Also, another factor might be that we're slowly getting surrounded by districts. TNFIRST briefly mentioned at a conference our team held in September they're looking into it, but I don't know (and I suspect they don't either) when that might happen. Georgia and North Carolina went to districts this year which lowers the number of regionals around us to attend. I know most Knoxville teams go to Palmetto, and some went to the Georgia regional previously. We're trying out Rocket City this year and hope it goes well!

Mark McLeod 30-11-2015 13:38

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The missing Tennessee teams are mostly from Memphis

3227 - Memphis, TN (attended Bayou & Smoky Mtns last season)
3516 - Memphis, TN (attended Lone Star & Georgia last season)
3783 - Memphis, TN (attended Arkansas & Smoky Mtns last season)
3856 - Memphis, TN (attended Smoky Mtns last season)
4396 - Memphis, TN (attended Smoky Mtns last season)
4989 - Memphis, TN (attended Alamo last season)
5691 - Memphis, TN (attended Smoky Mtns last season)

5040 - Arlington, TN (attended Bayou & Smoky Mtns last season)
5405 - Red Bank, TN (attended Arkansas & Queen City last season)
3675 - Seymour, TN (attended Smoky Mtns last season)

A lot (half) were double regional teams, only one affected by the rise of districts.

RogerR 30-11-2015 13:52

Re: Registration 2016
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark McLeod (Post 1508801)
The missing Tennessee teams are mostly from Memphis

3227 - Memphis, TN (attended Bayou & Smoky Mtns last season)
3516 - Memphis, TN (attended Lone Star & Georgia last season)
3783 - Memphis, TN (attended Arkansas & Smoky Mtns last season)
3856 - Memphis, TN (attended Smoky Mtns last season)
4396 - Memphis, TN (attended Smoky Mtns last season)
4989 - Memphis, TN (attended Alamo last season)
5691 - Memphis, TN (attended Smoky Mtns last season)

5040 - Arlington, TN (attended Bayou & Smoky Mtns last season)
5405 - Red Bank, TN (attended Arkansas & Queen City last season)
3675 - Seymour, TN (attended Smoky Mtns last season)

A lot (half) were double regional teams, only one affected by the rise of districts.

According to the Memphis FRC website:

Quote:

Last year, Shelby County Schools had 13 High Schools participating in FRC.

SCS has had it good, unlike most FRC teams, SCS teams did not have to find their own funding for the team from companies and donors due to the Race to the Top funding and thanks to the SCS budget which included funding for Science, Technology, Engineering and Math (STEM) Education.

Unfortunately, this will not be the case this year since the Race to the Top Grant is over and due to budget cuts.
Source: http://frc.memphisfirstteams.org/

guniv 30-11-2015 16:07

Re: Registration 2016
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark McLeod (Post 1508801)
The missing Tennessee teams are mostly from Memphis

3227 - Memphis, TN (attended Bayou & Smoky Mtns last season)
3516 - Memphis, TN (attended Lone Star & Georgia last season)
3783 - Memphis, TN (attended Arkansas & Smoky Mtns last season)
3856 - Memphis, TN (attended Smoky Mtns last season)
4396 - Memphis, TN (attended Smoky Mtns last season)
4989 - Memphis, TN (attended Alamo last season)
5691 - Memphis, TN (attended Smoky Mtns last season)

5040 - Arlington, TN (attended Bayou & Smoky Mtns last season)
5405 - Red Bank, TN (attended Arkansas & Queen City last season)
3675 - Seymour, TN (attended Smoky Mtns last season)

A lot (half) were double regional teams, only one affected by the rise of districts.

I look pretty silly now!


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