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Has everyone got their Main & Alternate TIMS contacts registered and their Youth Protection Training completed (3 days in advance)?

It's time again to find out where teams are going to find spots to play.
- 53 Regionals
- Chesapeake Districts
- GA Districts
- IN Districts
- MAR Districts
- MI Districts
- NC Districts
- NE Districts
- PNW Districts

Rookie teams will start with numbers 5800, although there is a new veteran team number 5777.

Here is how FRC Growth has progressed over the years.

P.S.
I'd like to highlight this nice page that Aren Siekmeier kindly created and is hosting for us to see the totals by event: http://173.255.246.196/2016/

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And the excitement level begins to ramp up...........

Still one of my favorite threads to watch each year! Looking forward to the start of the madness and finding out who is going to be where this season.

Thank you in advance Mark for your excellent analysis and postings with this thread. It is much appreciated each season.

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Agreed. Thanks, Mark, for doing this each year.

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Not what this thread is about. :ahh:
You'll see.

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Anyone know if there is a way to see the teams that are registerd for an event as they register or do we have to wait for that to come out on a later date

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Looks like there's a nudge toward the new Iowa regional in initial slot availability in the upper Midwest. The Duluth and Minneapolis double regionals both have actual capacity of 60+.

Lake Superior - 33
Northern Lights - 30

Iowa - 50
Wisconsin - 50

10000 Lakes - 33
North Star - 30

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You can use: https://my.usfirst.org/myarea/index.lasso
- Select 2016/events/Show Results
- Click on the event you are interested in
- Click on Queries: What teams are registered for this event?

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I want to say thanks to Mark, he quits his day job, moves away from his family into a secluded location with only a hotspot and his high powered laptop to give us the up to the second info on events and team stats....

.... well it seems that way. Thanks Mark!!!

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refresh, refresh, refresh, refresh, refresh, refresh, refresh, refresh, refresh, refresh, refresh, refresh, refresh, refresh, refresh, refresh, refresh, refresh,

love this time of year!

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Holy smokes that went fast. The button appeared right at the hour down to the second. I registered in about 30 seconds flat, without reading anything whatsoever about what I was clicking on. Within 60 seconds, there were already 30 teams registered for Long Beach.

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539 teams registered in the first minute
692 by minute 2
766 - minute 3
826 - minute 4
877 - minute 5
904 - minute 6
944 - minute 7
956 - minute 8
977 - minute 9
991 - minute 10
1004 - minute 11
1018 - minute 12
1027 - minute 13
1040 - minute 14
1052 - 15 minute mark
1100 - minute 23
1200 - minute 50
1300 around 1:30
1400 by 2:27pm
1500 around 4:15pm
1600 by 8:00pm on Thursday
1700 at 9:58am on Friday

That's probably enough of that.
So approximately a third of teams signed up for their favorite event within the first 15 minutes.

We went from 539 teams registering in the first minute to a team every 3 to 5 minutes 24 hours later.

Events filled:

1. Pittsburgh was the winner, filling within 2 minutes
2. SBPLI Long Island was runner-up which filled in 7 minutes
3. Greater Toronto in 8 minutes
4. Long Beach filled at 24 minutes (to be fair, they filled almost twice as many initial slots as any other event, so they would have been first by registering 39 teams by the 2 minute mark)
5. North Star took all of 45 minutes
6. 10,000 was booked by the second hour
7. NE-Granite State booked at 9pm Thursday
8. NE-WPI lost it's last slot early Friday morning

That was the high water mark and then it stalls or slows with only small changes.
12 other events, both Regionals and Districts, whittle down over the day into the single digits with Waterloo the closest at 1 open slot.

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12:02 - Added to waitlist at Greater Pittsburgh Regional

:eek: :mad: Really? Two minutes?

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Who knew the skills you learned during college class registration would come in handy. :rolleyes:

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This is actually the least surprising thing I have seen year after year. I'm pretty sure by 2018 open capacity for this event pre-registration is going to be single digits.

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I mean, there were only 24 spots available... seems smaller this year

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Always, you should know by now. :D

Pittsburgh conflicted with quarter exams for us. Was debating between Central Illinois and Buckeye, so went Central Illinois until we figure it out knowing Buckeye rarely fills.

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Yeah, I know Jimmy--it's still annoying. Usually, it's not until 12:04 or 12:05!!

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24 Teams from China are registered already, 11 of those are rookies, and it's the middle of the night there.

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Registered for NYC. SBPLI closed too quick and its more expensive to get there for us anyway. This is only half of the slots right? (Sorry wasnt into FRC much at this time last year)

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5012 in for Los Angeles.

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You can also use frclinks for quick access to event pages, once you familiarize with the event codes.

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Registered for North Star. Happy to see the Hawaiian Kids back in Duluth as well as Duluth's first international team Thunder Down Under.

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20 and 5254 registered for Tech Valley. I'm happy to see 3990 back again after having them miss 2015. Also 1622 from California is signed up for TVR as their first event? That's pretty cool!

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This is awesome.

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+1

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Headed to Chesapeake Greater DC District .So excited for our first year in districts

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Greater DC and Richmond seem to be filling up the fastest followed closely by NOVA.

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Yes, their filling up fast looks like some great competition at both events. I cant wait to see what is look teams choose a second event.

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Has anyone put together a page this year that lists events, registered, and open slots on one page for easy browsing?

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Not this?

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Exactly that.::rtm::

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Back in the day FIRST has this on their own website. Not sure why they ever took it away.

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Umm because of Mark and Aren Siekmeier?

I think its all they can do to keep the registration site up with the load...

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Mark,

I hope you don't mind if I direct Michigan teams also to another post I put under District Events forum. Not everybody subscribe to that sub-forum and if people don't login to their account, they won't see it.

The post is to see which Michigan teams registered for what event.

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...hreadid=138283

Ed

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Your data are always welcome here :-)

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I really thought they'd have had a regional in-country this year, like Australia.

Maybe next season...

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2052 is registered for 10,000 Lakes.

As am I! Excited to hear that 359 and 3132 are coming to Duluth.

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I'm kind of surprised Tech Valley didn't fill up. My guess is because FLR teams don't want to do back to back like last year.
That being said a few Rochester teams are signed up for Pittsburgh and I saw one signed up for NYC.

Curious how quickly FLR will fill during the second registration, and if they will open up more spots later on like they did last year?

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Should be soon with this many teams. Just need to be able to get an organizing committee together.

I made a map of where teams are in China. There are 14 in the proximity of Hong Kong / Shenzhen. It is, however, about 1200 miles from Beijing where 2 teams are. So, my immediate reaction is hold it near Shenzhen and several teams will just have to fly (but they do that already to Hawaii or Sydney or elsewhere).

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Thanks Ed!

My version of Michigan stats is up here for anybody curious. Ed's spreadsheet has which teams are registered for specific MI districts, and I'll try to keep up with team count and retention stats.

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Team 5813 is registered for WPI.:cool:

By the way, this is my first post here on Chief Delphi. :]

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Considering your team is less than 24 hours old, I'm not surprised;)

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Despite the fact that my team is a rookie team, I've been involved in FRC since 2012. I used to be on 1517.

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3132 is excited to be heading to the snow for the first time since our rookie season (when we went to the old Granite State Regional)! Northern Lights is looking like a great regional!

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As of right now:

NOVA: 25 teams
Greater DC: 19 teams
Central Virginia: 17 teams

Northern VA will fill out easily in the next phase: the other two will likely pick up teams who registered at one of the other four events. For example, I suspect most of the Southwest VA event teams to register for Central during 2nd event.

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Why? We have friends over in Vassar with team #5784 https://www.thebluealliance.com/team/5784

I think the number is 5790 (or they might just go 5800 for uniformity sake, but there's a team registered under 5791 with no 2015 events listed but with 2016 events)

TBA also shows a team number 5777 registered to a team who did not compete last year.

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Our friends in China are shooting for a regional in 2017. FIRST will need to make a decision in the near future if they are willing to support a new regional in China. Things are moving in the right direction but nothing is solid yet. Venue location decision is more than just a geographic one. Sometimes location of major sponsors affect where a regional is held. There will be many more than 2 teams from the Beijing area, by the way.

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According to TBA, Rookies this year start at 5788, it seems.;)

~Daler

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I saw them on the official registered team list.
http://frclinks.frclinks.com/team/5777

Only 5777 is listed that low, so it probably has 3 or more students who competed elsewhere last year and isn't officially a rookie team, but a veteran.
All the other rookies start at team 5800, so that's probably the right number.
I'll revise the number in post #1.

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The highest team number I see from last year is 5786.

Probably 5777 looks like a rookie because they registered last year, but did not compete. TBA shows them registered for GA S, but with no results - a no show?

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We look forward to having you up here in week 1! If you haven't yet, book hotels... the close ones fill up fast! You'll love the atmosphere at the DECC - two 60 team regionals under one roof, with just a hallway separating the pits and double curtains separating the fields... it's an amazing venue to hold events in - I think I like it even better than our "home" regional in Minneapolis :)

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Teams at the Doswell event are going to end up effectively are going to compete at the same event roster wise in Blacksburg.

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So I should probably already know this, but I'll ask my 2 questions anyway. I believe that if a team wins a regional event and they already were a winner at a previous event in the season then the captain of the Finalist team is granted a championship entrance.

If a HoF team (like 254) wins the event, does the captain of the finalist team get to go to championship?

Furthermore, if there were two teams or three teams who already made it to championships (254, 1114, 33) are the winning alliiance, do all three teams from the Finalist alliance make it?

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Yeah, I saw the NOVA registration coming. Nate made a good choice by signing us up for it first. We are going to have some bummed out week 3 teams come second registration that have to compete in back to back weeks.

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This is subject to change this year, but as of last year, wild cards were generated from any pre-competition qualifications.

If a HoF team or previous year CMP winner wins at their first event, a wild card is generated. If a team wins and also earns Chairman's/EI at the same regional, a wildcard is generated for the finalist alliance. If any team wins in a regional AFTER they've earned a qualification spot in a previous regional in the same year (win, RCA, EI, RAS) it generates a wild card.

If a qualified team earns RCA/EI and wins at the same regional, they generate 2 wild card slots.

Wild cards are passed down the finalist alliance in pick order until the next new team qualifies for the Championship. Wild cards are "lost" if everyone on the finalist alliance is also qualified.

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Some of you may have caught the mistake already. FIRST changed the event code of Woodhaven Michigan District from mifla to mibro. I uploaded a new spreadsheet in http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/papers/3169 or you can just change the cell W23 in sheet "Teams List for Events" to mibro.

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Incorrect. Last year HOF, original sustaining team and championship award winners generated wild cards right away.

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My mistake. I misremembered some of the differences between 2014 and 2015. I remembered the team generating a wild card if they double qualified, because we would have benefited from that in 2014 as the 1st pick on the finalist alliance.

For reference, here's the blog post actually describing the current wild card procedure: http://www.usfirst.org/roboticsprogr...nd-Eligibility

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Agreed. The Blacksburg and Doswell events will have nearly the same roster, with probably the only difference being a few Eastern VA teams who don't get Northern will come to Central.

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The best part of the Duluth regionals IMO is the Double-DECCer match. After the two regionals complete their finals, the regionals combine into one for a super-finals round between the two winning alliances. Teams take it pretty seriously.

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Interrupting the random sidebar conversations with registration data...

At noon there were 1736 teams registered.
That's a little over 50% of the final count of teams expected for this season.

88 are rookies (team #'s 5800 and higher), that's 5% of the teams currently registered.
The rookie percentage of total teams will eventually be higher as rookies are typically late registers.

Waterloo finally filled their last general admission slot.

9 Regional events are in the single digits.
4 District events are single digit

2 District events have assigned all their initial open slots.
7 Regional events have assigned all their initial open slots.

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Thank you for the data Mark! I always look forward to this part of the off-season.

Is it too early to ask how registration this year compares to last year?

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Lake Superior is the next event to fill 25 hours after registration opened.
Northern Lights was filled next at 27 hours.

I'll get a comparison to last year at this time. I'm painting trim today and that slows me down a little.

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I would be willing to bet that when the regional in china happens it will be in the Shenzhen area. While there may be some teams inconvenienced by the travel distance, long distance affordable transit is much easier in china than in the USA (and much cheaper if you consider that right now all of the teams are coming to the USA). Both FIRST partners in china (Semia and Dadalele) have their Headquarters in Shenzhen along with the highest concentration of teams.

That being said, I thing that the growth will be very fast in china and they could possibly support two events in their first year (north and south). I am very interested to see how this develops over the next few years.

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china team 5861 coming to gtr east a canadian regional

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Just like I tell my team no scheduling other projects during build season. Mark, no scheduling other projects during Registration Season...Just teasing. Thanks for all the great stats!

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We're actually under last year's registration rate.
Attached is a comparison of the first 12 hours over the past five seasons.
The second line down is this year.

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The rate may be lower because headquarters is maybe taking a harder line on YPP requirement of both lead and alternates having completed the task and many more teams than last year may be waiting for clearance to register?

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We've had one local team that I've heard from with a new Alternate contact that did YPP at the last minute and couldn't register yesterday because of the ~3 day wait.

The same YPP requirements held last year didn't they?
Since YPP is good for 3 years I would think last year would have seen more of an impact since everyone had to get it done.
This year it's only changes in Main/Alternate that could be held up by YPP.
Of course there was more of a publicized YPP push last year, so more teams may have been caught flatfooted this year.

I wonder if any teams in the new districts are delayed in being assigned to events? I know Michigan has caused odd bumps in prior years when they held assignments, then released them all at once.

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I don't know how widespread this was, but I know there was an issue with some district teams listed as a traditional event structure and couldn't register for their district event.

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Excited to see another country come to the FRC family! Welcome Team 5883 from Poland!

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I know that in Michigan because you are guaranteed a spot at your home event (at least for sure this year) that a lot of teams are signing up very slowly (hopefully they'll have it done in a week or two).

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Headquarters sent out a targeted email blast to 1200 Lead Mentors who had not completed the YPP as of the 21st... We were not one of them:) That may have resulted in a rush they couldn't handle in 3-4 days?

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As far as I have seen, CHS teams are being assigned immediately.

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We are?

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Where do you even find that information? Haha

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Logan. Please spell check. And think before you post.

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Or check out http://www.thaisatay.net/

Thai Satay San Mateo
173 East Fourth Ave.
San Mateo, CA 94401

8 years in a row. Best Thai Restaurant in San Mateo County.

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[offtopic]
Chicken Satay is a common appetizer at Thai restaurants, consisting of a few pieces of grilled chicken served on a skewer with a peanut sauce. There are some pretty decent Thai restaurants up near Keystone.

Jasmine Thai Restaurant
River Ridge Crossing, 4825 E 96th St, Indianapolis, IN 46240
[/offtopic]

On the topic of registration, I was quite surprised that so many Indiana teams registered for the Tippecanoe Distrct when the other two seem to be closer to the population center of teams.

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Mark,
I love your thread, the data, and analysis you provide every year.

I won't lie -- I'm having trouble following along sometimes with all the side conversations happening.

I think you have moderator powers. Perhaps you should split off many of these other posts into "Registration 2016 Discussion" and leave this thread for your useful commentary?

Please keep doing what you're doing. Thanks!
-John

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This is the same for the Michigan teams as it was last year though, right? I think part of the slower signups may be due to the PNW district introducing home events for the first time. Last year the PNW had multiple events filled by now.

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Check my spelling again. Lol. When I saw what I wrote, I was confused.

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The other two Indiana events are approximately the same location. My main reason for suggesting the Tippecanoe event for our team was that we didn't really want to attend both Indianapolis competitions, and it really isn't that big a deal which one of them we end up going to.

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Another reason I've heard floating around is that teams are not looking to do back-to-back districts if it can be avoided. So lots of teams are hoping for a week2 & week4 season. Since the northern part of the state is more heavily populated with teams than the southern part, it makes sense that they'll go for the Tippy event. And, as Alan said, the other two are pretty much interchangeable.
Also since Purdue has been so good to us over the years, and Tippy is sort of the BMR replacement, with the possibility of campus tours and the sights and sounds (and smells) of West Lafayette being so appealing.

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I second John's vote for a secondary thread. One thread for numbers and another for Registration 2016 discussion.

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For those interested in signing up for the Greater Pittsburgh Regional and are concerned with going on the waitlist, there is light at the end of the tunnel. I have it from a reliable source over the weekend that the Regional reserved many more than the typical 10 slots for rookies...it may be closer to 20 or 25 slots. I believe they were concerned that they wouldn't have enough in reserve since it had filled up so fast the last several years--I think they may have had issues last year.

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NOVA teams are hungry! 29 spots filled, 5 available, the rest open for rookies. Man, we'll have to see if we can squeeze in some more teams at the school somewhere...

Should make for a fun Saturday night too.

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1712 was also exploring the possibility of doing an early (preferably week 1) out of district play, but the options are pretty slim and mostly already filled. Indiana teams may have more options with FiM districts just across the border and being a more realistic option. MAR teams pretty much have to hope they can sneak into one of the 16 remaining Waterfords spots in week 1, or else there really isn't much available. We were really hoping to get into NOVA, but knew it wasn't likely.

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In guessing NOVA is a regional but what is it? Thanks

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Northern Virginia district event. See the post right before mine by the host team (1885).

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We're in the same spot. Our ideal situtation is being able to get into Lake Superior/Northern Lights, but the MN events are pretty full year-to-year and we have no idea if there's going to be spots left by the time unrestricted registration comes around. Going up to Michigan or down to North Carolina are our backup options.

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With 2 events on week 3 and only 1 event week 1 I knew this would be the first event filled. Glad Nate decided to sign us up for it first instead of our home event.

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Come to Montreal guys! There's plenty of room left and we are friendly :)

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Week 1 district events fill quickly from my experience.

Of MAR's 66 week 1 spots (Mount Olive and Hatboro Horsham), all but eight are filled.

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I heard, though haven't confirmed, CHS has 7 spots for 3rd-district or inter-district play. That's 1-ish spot per event, assuming projections for rookie teams hold. Reasonable since it's the first year, but I'd go for what you want nonetheless. Haven't seen you in a while!

This is good to know. I had no idea.

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Your odds of making a Michigan event are extremely low. We tried last year but all of the events were full. Not surprising, with the number of FiM teams there are. However, this year Midwest is week 5 so that is an option later if you want to play some out of district teams before DCMP. Other than that, Chesapeake or North Carolina events may be a good option.

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I think that may be coincidence. Other districts still have significant availabilities in their week 1 events. I think it's mostly that Hatboro Horsham and Mount Olive are both long standing and well respected MAR districts in good locations.

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we're registering on 2nd wave! We had to get at spot at GTRC before it was full :p