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pandamonium 03-10-2015 05:19

Re: [FRC Blog] When is a Game Hint not a Game Hint?
 
Releasing a video in October lends even more credibility to the football theory. FIRST wants to create hype about the football game through out the football season. We still will not know what type of football game piece is used or how big the scoring target is.

notmattlythgoe 03-10-2015 05:33

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Originally Posted by pandamonium (Post 1498538)
Releasing a video in October lends even more credibility to the football theory. FIRST wants to create hype about the football game through out the football season. We still will not know what type of football game piece is used or how big the scoring target is.

If by rumors you mean FIRST literally saying that they develop the games 3 years in advance then yes that is true.

mwmac 03-10-2015 10:42

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Originally Posted by notmattlythgoe (Post 1498539)
If by rumors you mean FIRST literally saying that they develop the games 3 years in advance then yes that is true.

I have only been able to find this mention of the GDC trying to design future games for more than one season in advance. http://www.usfirst.org/aboutus/nljun11/frchighlights

I believe it may be more of a goal than a reality...

Basel A 03-10-2015 10:46

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Originally Posted by mwmac (Post 1498551)
I have only been able to find this mention of the GDC trying to design future games for more than one season in advance. http://www.usfirst.org/aboutus/nljun11/frchighlights

I believe it may be more of a goal than a reality...

A more recent reference: http://www.usfirst.org/roboticsprogr...idays-11112013

PayneTrain 03-10-2015 12:43

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Originally Posted by GeeTwo (Post 1498518)
I seriously expect that this is the case most years. Some of the more credible rumors indicate that games are at least rough-planned three or four years in advance. They just keep it under wraps until the last minute. Sometimes, the small size of the "need to know" group shows, as with the noodle agreement last year.

And as far as useless game hints are concerned, the 2009 video cited above gave no useful clues at all about the game or game pieces until the final still, when the empty cells and super cells were shown (without any sense of scale).

I'm keenly aware that this is almost always the case.

AdamHeard 03-10-2015 15:01

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Originally Posted by pandamonium (Post 1498538)
Releasing a video in October lends even more credibility to the football theory. FIRST wants to create hype about the football game through out the football season. We still will not know what type of football game piece is used or how big the scoring target is.

What football theory? FIRST has never hinted at footballs.

Michael Hill 03-10-2015 15:41

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Originally Posted by AdamHeard (Post 1498578)
What football theory? FIRST has never hinted at footballs.

I don't think you "get" FRC hint theory. lol

FIRST doesn't have to ever hint at anything for us to generate theories (e.g., water game).

Justin Montois 03-10-2015 16:18

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Originally Posted by GeeTwo (Post 1498507)
What do you mean?

I mean I think theres a chance there will be enough shown for teams to spend the next 2 months prototyping at least some aspect of the game.based on their best interpretation of the video.

I do agree that the 2009 video is a great example of what I hope this teaser is. I'm just afraid they might give away too much.

EDesbiens 03-10-2015 16:24

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Originally Posted by Justin Montois (Post 1498583)
I mean I think theres a chance there will be enough shown for teams to spend the next 2 months prototyping at least some aspect of the game.based on their best interpretation of the video.

I do agree that the 2009 video is a great example of what I hope this teaser is. I'm just afraid they might give away too much.

I don't think they'll give away too much... They know what to do and how to do it... The previous hints were nicely done...

EricH 03-10-2015 17:38

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Doesn't ANYBODY remember the 2007 game hint? It showed a SCORED GAME PIECE.

And nobody got the hint fully right.


Think about that for a minute.

EDesbiens 03-10-2015 17:45

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Originally Posted by EricH (Post 1498588)
Doesn't ANYBODY remember the 2007 game hint? It showed a SCORED GAME PIECE.

And nobody got the hint fully right.


Think about that for a minute.

It's the first time I see this hint and I love it :)

MikLast 03-10-2015 19:05

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Originally Posted by Justin Montois (Post 1498583)
I do agree that the 2009 video is a great example of what I hope this teaser is. I'm just afraid they might give away too much.

Mind linking the hint? im having trouble finding the actual hints, just guesses on when they would come out.

While trying to find what the hint was, i found this gem:
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Originally Posted by Seat Ninja (Post 789115)
What about a game with pool noodles. You would have to gather them from an overhead storage area or off the floor and put them through holes in the player stations. I saw a similar idea on a FIRST chatroom somewhere and refined it (if you can call it that). What do you think?


Christopher149 03-10-2015 19:32

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Originally Posted by MikLast (Post 1498592)
Mind linking the hint? im having trouble finding the actual hints, just guesses on when they would come out.

Post 14 of this very thread. Video.

MooreteP 03-10-2015 19:33

Re: [FRC Blog] When is a Game Hint not a Game Hint?
 
There are probably a few good answers to this question, including:

1. When it’s not preceded by words equivalent to “This is a game hint”

2. When it’s a video teaser for the season.

"This is a game hint" precedes the whole blog post. Uh-oh.

Now I'm focussed on "Game Stop".
Could this be like Diabolical Dynamics from 2001 where you could stop the game early to receive Bonus points?
Game History
The alliance multiplies its score by a factor of up to three by ending the match before the two minute time limit.

T'was a great way to make the match schedule.

MikLast 03-10-2015 19:36

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Originally Posted by Christopher149 (Post 1498593)
Post 14 of this very thread. Video.

my bad for missing that, thank you.


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