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notmattlythgoe 15-10-2015 09:51

Re: Official FIRST Stronghold Teaser!
 
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Originally Posted by DaveL (Post 1500282)
The 4 flag colors might mean that there will be 4 alliances. Having 2 robots per alliance for a total of 8 robots on the field at once would allow more teams to compete at once.

Even on a wide open field like 2014 8 robots would be too much. Add in obstacles and now there is no room to move. Just look at how little room there was in 2015.

Catherine57 15-10-2015 10:01

Re: Official FIRST Stronghold Teaser!
 
The dragons look sort of Chinese style to me.

I think there is a sword in the top of the tower. Maybe whoever can retrieve it is king?

kyle_hamblett 15-10-2015 10:04

Re: Official FIRST Stronghold Teaser!
 
Someone might have already said this, but one of the tings that I noticed was once the thunderstorm hit, it got dark and the robots lights turned on...
Playing in the dark? Might be fun...

Libby K 15-10-2015 10:09

Re: Official FIRST Stronghold Teaser!
 
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Originally Posted by Madison (Post 1500181)
I can't abide by LARPing at a robotics competition.

SO true - I'm not sure that's the introduction to mainstream culture we want for ourselves...

For an organization that wants to brand itself as the "Sport for the Mind" and reach 'outside the tent', I don't think this 'theme' is going to resonate outside of the nerd-crowd as well as they think it is.

I think it's heaps better than Recycle Rush, and I'm sure Disney's help will make it crowd-friendly - but here's how I see it:

In 2010 or 2012, for example, you're practicing in the school, kicking soccerballs or shooting three-pointers from the key, and one of the students on your school's best Sportsball team walks by. Guess what? You've got common ground now. This is something they already 'get', and maybe they'll come to a competition to see it. Once they're there, they're hooked and want to do more FIRST. You've converted someone who didn't see the value in the robotics team, to a STEM enthusiast. Isn't that the whole point of why we do this?

Engagement from even an already-enthusiastic audience at an FRC demonstration was like pulling teeth this year, at least for us. In the middle of our summer day camp expo, a first-grader asked me: "Why would you want to make a robot that just stacks boxes? What about the cool frisbee one?" (We bring our 2013 robot to play outside with the campers, and demo FLL/FTC/FRC inside.)

I hope Stronghold will be a little more engaging, if only because all the blog posts, teasers, etc. made so far have led us to believe there's some robot interaction.

But as far as bringing people from 'outside the tent' in to FIRST? I'd pick an actual sport any day.

1493kd 15-10-2015 10:13

Re: Official FIRST Stronghold Teaser!
 
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Originally Posted by Catherine57 (Post 1500289)

I think there is a sword in the top of the tower. Maybe whoever can retrieve it is king?

Ok Ill take the bait and throw my 2 cents into this-

-Yes each alliance has a sword on their end of the field-
-High Points awarded for taking that sword from your opponents and placing it in a middle castle on the field before the other alliance-
- On each side of the castle are 2 arches that teams can pass thru to the opposing alliances side- one red one blue
- In the middle part of the castle is a gate or door that is much harder to pass thru but either team can go thru or use to place the sword
- Lower points are given for taking flags from your side of the field and planting them on our opponents side- for example 1 point for low placement- and 5 points for placing them in a more difficult position
-Human players can pass flags to robots from the side of the field to their alliance partners
-From the diagram it almost looks like human players on the side of the field could also be used to play some kind of defense/block progress this year- but safety of human defensive interaction with robots leads me to think now

Cant wait to be proven wrong

Melonypond 15-10-2015 10:15

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Capture the flag with blue, red, and yellow flags. Blue tries to get all of their flags to their side, red tries to get theirs. Each team has to steal from the other and play keep away. The yellow flags are in the middle for reverse coopertition. The goal is to have as many flags as possible in your scoring zone by the end of the time. Im also thinking obstructions to the drivers view could be part of it.

swaxman12345 15-10-2015 10:23

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From the dramatic shot of the tower, it looks almost like a king-of-the-hill arrangement.

LlNUX 15-10-2015 10:29

Re: Official FIRST Stronghold Teaser!
 
What if every alliance has a different goal to achieve making everyone have to make choices on what mechanisms to focus on :eek:

samefman 15-10-2015 10:31

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of course Hallry starts this thread...

gavmac928 15-10-2015 10:54

2016 Game Hint Discussion?
 
The teaser for the 2016 FRC Game:
usfirst.org/frc2016

This seems like pretty much the most straightforward game hint ever. Usually all the hint gets us is a name, and this tells us the name already! Plus, to kick off some speculation, notice the fact that the "champion" has bumpers. Also, the big tower featured seems like a likely field element to me.

KelliV 15-10-2015 10:54

Re: Official FIRST Stronghold Teaser!
 
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Originally Posted by Libby K (Post 1500291)
But as far as bringing people from 'outside the tent' in to FIRST? I'd pick an actual sport any day.

I totally agree. The connection to real sports in the past was amazing.

The first thing that came to mind when I saw this was LARPing. (Madison mentioned it as well). I can't see kids from sportsball getting excited about something that looks like a LARPing advertisement (albeit now with more robots). As someone who participated in High school sports I can say if this was what was supposed to get me interested in Robots I would probably have just stuck with cheerleading.

Hopefully this turns out well. Disney is a wonderful company who hopefully has helped create a great experience for the students. I'd love to see more kids want to be involved in FIRST.

TAlholm 15-10-2015 11:04

Re: Official FIRST Stronghold Teaser!
 
tl;dr
Lunacy on carpet? Defend the trailers.

Ari423 15-10-2015 11:13

Re: 2016 Game Hint Discussion?
 
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...hreadid=138575

You got sniped.

Doug Frisk 15-10-2015 11:29

Re: Official FIRST Stronghold Teaser!
 
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Originally Posted by Madison (Post 1500181)
I can't abide by LARPing at a robotics competition.

That settles it, I'm wearing my full renfest garb this year!

JB987 15-10-2015 11:32

Re: Official FIRST Stronghold Teaser!
 
Shall we keep in mind that a 'flag' (an object) can be represented by a variety of other game pieces? Even a ball can represent a 'flag'.


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