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RocketDean 15-10-2015 21:07

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I definately think the hard emphasis on "together" at the end of the video could mean that it is player vs. Field...

Bob Steele 15-10-2015 21:29

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Originally Posted by JB987 (Post 1500387)
Who in the heck has enough free time to put together something as cool as this mash up so quickly? Well done!

Stompin' on Dozer....

One of our alumni from last year... (one of the Daves) put this together.... He is amazing.

Duffy509 15-10-2015 21:42

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Is anyone else bothered by the Stronghold font? I don't understand why they would put a tail on the g and started seeing the r and n as a j I front of each letter. Also the way they combined the l and d makes it look like a u. I remember a cryptology game hint a couple years back and was wondering if this might be a key or if I have spent to many hours on this already.

MikLast 15-10-2015 22:04

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Originally Posted by Bob Steele (Post 1500416)
Stompin' on Dozer....

Do me a favor and give that guy props. He is living the dream.

Ian Curtis 15-10-2015 22:37

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I suspect their graphic designers played the same video games as me when they were 12. Fun game!




dellagd 15-10-2015 22:58

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Originally Posted by Michael Hill (Post 1500411)
I just noticed the hero graphic had changed from when it was debuted. They removed the titled triangle logo from the webpage.

https://youtu.be/5J5aHLeVa4A?t=2044

http://www.usfirst.org/frc2016

You're right.

Weird...

Robogeddon 16-10-2015 04:54

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#dozerlives

Peter Cudmore 16-10-2015 08:47

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One thing I have not seen brought up but occurred to me. If they are now partnered with the Disney Imaginarium people can we possibly expect non standard field elements designed by the partner. Perhaps the field itself will have moving components or might be a lot more high tech then we have seen before?

George1902 16-10-2015 08:59

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Originally Posted by Michael Hill (Post 1500411)
I just noticed the hero graphic had changed from when it was debuted. They removed the titled triangle logo from the webpage.

https://youtu.be/5J5aHLeVa4A?t=2044

http://www.usfirst.org/frc2016

The first thing I thought of when I saw the Stronghold banner was that it violated the FIRST Branding & Design Standards.

omalleyj 16-10-2015 09:09

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What do dragons and griffons have in common? Wings!
Flying game confirmed!
:yikes:

angelah 16-10-2015 10:09

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Originally Posted by Hallry (Post 1500358)
From when bumpers started in 2006 through 2009, they could be any color of your choice (they could also say other things in addition to your team number). Other means (flags, posts on the Lunacy trailers) were used to identify alliance members. It wasn't until 2010 that bumpers became regulated as blue and red to signify alliances.

Changing bumpers can be a logistical issue, so maybe we are going back to freedom in bumpers, but flags mounted to the top of robots to show the alliance (thus the two holes in the top of the robot and them draping a flag over it.)

Also, about the conversation about reaching people outside the tent. I wonder if this is an attempt at the folks "outside the tent but not too far away." Sometimes you can go TOO far outside the tent (you see this sometimes with efforts to recruit more young women to STEM, FIRST, etc.) and then you reach no one. I don't know what the thought was, but I do know we get the most interest from folks when we talk about basketball and frisbee robots.

burde1jb 16-10-2015 10:28

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Given the difference between the red and blue flags, here is my thought:

Capture the flag begins with red alliance's "flag" (likely a large bright light that can change between red & blue) already lit. Midfield is broken up by a significant barrier (like 2010) such that you could use only cameras to see once on the other side.

If ALL three blue alliance robots position themselves around the "flag", the "flag" turns to blue and the blue alliance gets X super mega awesome points. The red alliance must defend against them while also manipulating a game piece at midfield.

Game is over when the red alliance moves all game pieces to the center, the blue flag is lit, or 2:15 is over.

STRRRROOOOOOONNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHOOOOOOOLLLLLL LLDDDDD!!!1!1!1!!!111!1!

P.J. 16-10-2015 12:41

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Finally, my English degree is useful!

One aspect that I think many people are ignoring are the creatures represented on the flags, the griffin and the dragon. The griffin appears far too many times to just be random, and is even the first thing shown in the trailer. They could have just as easily chosen a different creature (unicorn, wolf, stag, Frank's face, whatever) or just left the flags solid colors. So I feel like the fact that they had designs on these flags has to have some sort of significance.

So the question becomes, what do both of these creatures have in common?

As someone a few posts above pointed out, they both have wings. But I'm not even going to go there.

In the myths of both griffins and dragons, one recurring theme is that the creatures are obsessed with their hoards of treasure. So what if each alliance has a set "hoard" of some sort (tennis balls?). They each begin the game with a certain amount of treasure, maybe spread through a few different goals/baskets/scoring areas and they have to both protect their "hoard" while trying to steal from the "hoard" of the other alliance. What would one use to protect their hoard? A stronghold, of course.

That's all I've got.

notmattlythgoe 16-10-2015 12:48

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I keep going back and forth on the 6v0 aspect. On one hand it is interesting that the number of kids they chose is 6, and they mention facing the challenge ahead together.

On the other hand those same 6 kids are all working on the same robot, the kingdom could be the community, and facing it together could just be because it is a team. Also, those same 6 kid are on the "drive team" and 2 of them are just cheering so you could take that as that's the team just cheering on their drive team and robot.

And of course since Frank said it wasn't a hint, nothing in the video could matter except setting a theme for the name.

robert1356 16-10-2015 12:58

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Originally Posted by EricLeifermann (Post 1500129)
Not sure how this video is supposed to get the general public interested and excited about FIRST......

Completely agree


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